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Re: Rayman 3
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:15 pm
by lyndo64
EdgeRabbit wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:12 pm
Okay, at the short cut.. whats with all the timed platformer bull crap?
Bullcrap? BULLCRAP?!?

HOW DARE YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINION THAN ME
Re: Rayman 3
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:19 pm
by Master
God forbid someone call it bs xD
Yeah, The Longest Shortcut is a predominantly platforming level, it's only 3 stages long so it's not too bad if you're not into it, but I find the platforming to be quite creative once you get the hang of it.
Re: Rayman 3
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 10:27 pm
by EdgyRabbid
Okay, im done with it... so how do i get past the second hoodlum?
Re: Rayman 3
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 11:39 pm
by Master
The second hoodlum? I'm guessing this is one of the Spinnaroos in The Summit Beyond the Clouds?
If it's the one I'm thinking of, you need to dodge the snowballs and keep punching away at the hoodlum until it backs into a fire behind it. It'll drop a throttle copter that you can use to climb further up.
Re: Rayman 3
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 12:02 am
by EdgyRabbid
Ohh.. okay! L'll use that info when im gonna play the game tomorrow!
Re: Rayman 3
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 12:20 am
by The Jonster
Ah, I remember when I gave up for a time upon reaching the first hoodlum I reached in Summit Beyond the CLouds. Simply because I didn't realise there was a red can. Or that I could punch his lights out with a fully charged heavy metal fish.

Re: Rayman 3
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 5:02 pm
by Master
I think this where the games could've taken a leaf out of games like Metroid Prime where they have scannable information that can help you figure out how to engage enemies. While it is true that if you go into photo mode whilst locked onto an enemy you can get some information, from what I remember it was mostly just descriptive flavour text than anything meaningful.
Still a neat detail mind, but I reckon it could've been used to greater effect, and also they don't really communicate to the player that they can do that in the game, I only knew about that from reading the manual. Though I supposed I have been told thoroughly about RTFM xD.
Re: Rayman 3
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 5:13 pm
by dr_st
Master wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 5:02 pm
I think this where the games could've taken a leaf out of games like Metroid Prime where they have scannable information that can help you figure out how to engage enemies.
I don't know. I think I prefer it the way it is. You can take hints from things in your environment to deduce your expected behavior. To me it is much more fun than reading a piece of text instructing you on what you should do. That takes a good deal of exploration out of it.
Now, I can understand if the game was obtuse of very complicated, but Rayman 3 is actually quite simple. Most puzzles are straightforward.
Then again, I do remember there was a guy on a different forum, 20 years ago, that was struggling with the second level of the game (the first one you actually have free roaming after Murfy's introduction). He couldn't figure out where to go, and was asking for a walkthrough.

Re: Rayman 3
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 5:17 pm
by EdgyRabbid
Im glad this place is here! I think since i cant take hints well (Autism lol), i have to sometimes look up answers for stuff! However, the game is still clear with most of its instructions!
Re: Rayman 3
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 5:19 pm
by Greengoop
I wouldn’t think it’s an autism problem, as a lot of stuff in it and other games are quite subtle
Re: Rayman 3
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 5:19 pm
by Master
dr_st wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 5:13 pm
I don't know. I think I prefer it the way it is. You can take hints from things in your environment to deduce your expected behavior. To me it is much more fun than reading a piece of text instructing you on what you should do. That takes a good deal of exploration out of it.
Now, I can understand if the game was obtuse of very complicated, but Rayman 3 is actually quite simple. Most puzzles are straightforward.
Then again, I do remember there was a guy on a different forum, 20 years ago, that was struggling with the second level of the game (the first one you actually have free roaming after Murfy's introduction). He couldn't figure out where to go, and was asking for a walkthrough.
I suppose that's also true, from a contextual standpoint the heavy metal fist is pretty clearly present so there is an implication that it's part of the solution. To be clear, I'm not saying spell it out directly, to go back to my example, Prime 1 doesn't usually explicitly state (use *this* to defeat *that*), though it does give suggestion in a way that doesn't break the game/reality barrier (x is made of bendezium = use power bombs, is vulnerable to concussive blasts = use missiles).
I think giving that kind of implication, say in this case spinneroos armour are invulnerable to regular blunt force attacks, but an attack of sufficient force or high temperatures can damage it. Would be a decent compromise...hint at the answer, but still give leeway to the player to figure it out?
I suppose at the end of the day though, you can signpost all you want, but sometimes the signs don't speak out, but we have walkthroughs for that so nbd I guess? There's a balance between giving the answer away and giving the player the satisfaction of figuring something out.
Re: Rayman 3
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 7:45 pm
by EdgyRabbid
Okay.. since im at the snow level, how many levels are there left for me?
Re: Rayman 3
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 8:17 pm
by Master
You have The Summit which has 3 parts, it sounds like you're already past the first in the boat, so you've got 2 remaining.
Thereafter there's two more world, one consisting of 5 parts, the next another 5. So about 12 stages to go.
Re: Rayman 3
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:33 pm
by Greengoop
Never gotten this far, but it’s safe to assume they get a lot harder

Re: Rayman 3
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:41 pm
by EdgyRabbid
My score on the game right now is 107127! Is that any good?
Edit: The fuck is Globox doing? Why did he purr at the female voice on the intercom? Can he keep it in his pants for 3 mins?
Re: Rayman 3
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 10:21 pm
by dr_st
EdgeRabbit wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:41 pm
Edit: The fuck is Globox doing? Why did he purr at the female voice on the intercom? Can he keep it in his pants for 3 mins?
He doesn't wear pants.
Re: Rayman 3
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 10:35 pm
by EdgyRabbid
Why did he fall for that trap....
Also i think im gonna try to do 2 worlds today! ITs the weekend, so if i finish the game tomorrow than that means i beat the game in only 1 week!
Re: Rayman 3
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 11:06 pm
by Master
Rayman 3 is a pretty short game so I can see that happening xD
And yeah some people used to joke about Globox getting divorced from Uglette cause of how he acts here

Re: Rayman 3
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 11:19 pm
by EdgyRabbid
My friend thinks that he might just be polyamours? Also i like how he gave Andre a nickname... "Andy"!
Re: Rayman 3
Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2024 11:26 pm
by Master
Yeah the jokes write themselves really...Globox and his little Andy that he kept in his stomach for a period of time.