Something Bothering you?/Daily Doldrums

[neo]

Hmm. Well. I just dealt with two things pressuring me at the same time. I don't know if I talked about the traffic ticket in here before. Well, it's over with. It went well. Just wanted to say that. :3

[Dark Lum Lord]

I - strangely - cannot think of anything to bitch about at the moment. Just all of you wait, though.

[neo]

Good. This is a great opportunity to savor the moment.

I should too, as I think I got through something tough.

[Keane]

I've always known that music is pretty much my favourite thing in the world. I've always wanted to learn how to play a guitar. But it wasn't until a long time when I actually wanted to learn it. Now I'm willing to join a pretty shitty class so I at least can do it and build up from there.

I'm extraordinarily happy to hear this. Whether or not it ends up being for you, I always wondered why you hadn't tried picking up an instrument earlier. I would be absolutely enthralled to hear about your progress.

I'll be sure to. It seriously bugs me when I see other people perform or see one of those books from Muse or some band with the music notes. I wanna do it too.

In general, I've never seen myself as talented at anything really. I can't sing, I can't play an instrument, I can't draw, and I can write but I'm not well at it whatsoever. But, as I mentioned, I can write and my writing skills are always improving so I guess I could consider myself good at that in a way. At the rate my skills in writing are improving, I might actually be a somewhat decent writer one day.

I think one thing that's always bugged me is my lack of skill in anything. I feel like a lot of people around me do. The excellent drawing that people post on here or young bands putting out their first work (Loved following King Krule build up from being a barely known artist to growing every day. The songs I've heard from his debut are fantastic and I'm glad he made it to this point.) impress me, and I'd love to show people something I can impress them with. Not that I want to brag, but to let people know I have a reason for being alive. But in the end all the thoughts about being pointless and having been born this way was just me putting myself down and the only one who has kept me from doing those things is myself. Zepto wasn't born with a natural talent of drawing. Ad didn't automatically know game design. King Krule didn't know how to write and play the music I adore. They gained interest in these things and started trying them. Eventually trying changed to gaining skill and now these three people can do things they wouldn't be able to if they had been like me and simply told themselves that others were born with these abilities and they are out of luck. It may even have been laziness. Like I've mentioned before my forced return for another four year period in the US didn't exactly make me, err, a man like emsho recently described them but I'm not gonna sit back and call myself worthless anymore. Options may be limited or worse but I can still learn to play a guitar, learn to develop some decent drawing skill, learn to speak French. Not the way I was hoping, but it's still a way.

You may feel that right now you have no skill and your dreams are things that you can't do but the only way to truly find out is to develop interest for them. If you truly want to become an author, then you will work towards being one. None of those big authors out there suddenly knew how to bring their story best to others. You have great writing skill here on the forums, I'm sure that the more you work on it the better it'll become. And that two people note that you are good at something is, small as it may be, a sign that you have/will have talent.

[neo]

Yeah I realized I suck at everything too, and to make up for that I'm a try hard. Don't try hards do better than people with natural talent, if they don't try as hard as we do? It's always fun to think of yourself as the secret genius that will do something great one day, but you just don't know what. I would say live life the the fullest, and try hard at the things you are good at, and try to improve the things you are weak at. Honestly I'm just a normal person like everyone else, but who knows if we'll do something slightly different.

[Adsolution]

I'll be sure to. It seriously bugs me when I see other people perform or see one of those books from Muse or some band with the music notes. I wanna do it too.

You know, if you ever at any point feel like taking up bass, I would love to meet up and perform with you in the future (along with Rulez and Shroob). Your musical interests are perfect. Just throwing the idea out there if you're interested.

[Zikken]

Zepto wasn't born with a natural talent of drawing. Ad didn't automatically know game design. King Krule didn't know how to write and play the music I adore. They gained interest in these things and started trying them. Eventually trying changed to gaining skill and now these three people can do things they wouldn't be able to if they had been like me and simply told themselves that others were born with these abilities and they are out of luck.

I sure as hell wasn't born with the talent of drawing, I started really drawing when I was 12, the drawings were so crappy I am almost ashamed of them now. A bit later I got into digital arts but I was drawing with my mouse, not a tablet. I still have my oldest drawing I could find here in traditional dated of 2009 and here in digital dated 2010. They were even worse 2008, they were literally potatoes.
I got a tablet back in January 2012 and this was the first drawing I made with it. Honestly crappy next to my drawings now.
If I would have told myself that I just wasn't lucky to be able to draw I wouldn't even be able to draw like this today. Practice makes things perfect. I still got a long way before reaching what I want my drawings to look like but if I go on it wont take so much time as I think it will.

I never thought I sucked at everything, I already knew I was more intelligent than the average of the students in school. I wasn't able to speak English 4 years ago. The only words I knew was yes and no and some colors. I was failing my English grade. Well you know what, I picked up some interest in learning languages because most of the games I was playing was in English and I didn't understand anything. In less than 6 months I was already bilingual.

In short : Always try in what you have interest in. Don't give up and go forward, don't lower yourself down because you think you can't do it, because you can always reach want you aim for if you try!

[Keane]

I'll be sure to. It seriously bugs me when I see other people perform or see one of those books from Muse or some band with the music notes. I wanna do it too.

You know, if you ever at any point feel like taking up bass, I would love to meet up and perform with you in the future (along with Rulez and Shroob). Your musical interests are perfect. Just throwing the idea out there if you're interested.

Bass is a great instrument. I would be interested to take it on if guitar works out for me.

As great as your idea sounds, I don't wanna get anyone's hopes up seeing how far I'm away from doing such a thing. Nor do I know what'll be going on in my life in the future. But i'll remember to keep it in the back of my head.

[Dark Lum Lord]

I think one thing that's always bugged me is my lack of skill in anything. I feel like a lot of people around me do. The excellent drawing that people post on here or young bands putting out their first work (Loved following King Krule build up from being a barely known artist to growing every day. The songs I've heard from his debut are fantastic and I'm glad he made it to this point.) impress me, and I'd love to show people something I can impress them with. Not that I want to brag, but to let people know I have a reason for being alive. But in the end all the thoughts about being pointless and having been born this way was just me putting myself down and the only one who has kept me from doing those things is myself. Zepto wasn't born with a natural talent of drawing. Ad didn't automatically know game design. King Krule didn't know how to write and play the music I adore. They gained interest in these things and started trying them. Eventually trying changed to gaining skill and now these three people can do things they wouldn't be able to if they had been like me and simply told themselves that others were born with these abilities and they are out of luck. It may even have been laziness. Like I've mentioned before my forced return for another four year period in the US didn't exactly make me, err, a man like emsho recently described them but I'm not gonna sit back and call myself worthless anymore. Options may be limited or worse but I can still learn to play a guitar, learn to develop some decent drawing skill, learn to speak French. Not the way I was hoping, but it's still a way.

You may feel that right now you have no skill and your dreams are things that you can't do but the only way to truly find out is to develop interest for them. If you truly want to become an author, then you will work towards being one. None of those big authors out there suddenly knew how to bring their story best to others. You have great writing skill here on the forums, I'm sure that the more you work on it the better it'll become. And that two people note that you are good at something is, small as it may be, a sign that you have/will have talent.

Thank you. I don't really see how my writing is good at all, but still, thanks anyways. And I definitely agree that no one was "born" with talent - talent requires practice; much practice gives birth to skill. I've always expected myself to wake up one day and realize that I've magically acquire talent in something for absolutely no reason whatsoever, but after years I've realized that a scenario like that would never occurr in my entire lifetime. People aren't born with talent nor do they simply acquire it early on after doing nothing, it's the sad truth and you've highlighted it in order to remind me. And now that you've mentioned a musical artist, I'm know listening to an amazing song that obviously had required plenty of skill and I've realized that they definitely could not have done that out of the blue with no prior practice. No, a song like this requires practice; it required the ability to play an instrument, sing, and write up lyrics welly in order to have been created in the fisrt place, and furthermore it required the band to be interested in creating music.

Without an interest in something there's really no way one could become skilled at something, as you've pointed out. A rather silly example, but what came first the chicken or the egg? The chicken, but the egg never would have existed in the first place if the chicken weren't interested in having sex. If the chicken never had sex there never would have been an egg, nor would the chicken have any skill in the bedroom.

As great as your idea sounds, I don't wanna get anyone's hopes up seeing how far I'm away from doing such a thing. Nor do I know what'll be going on in my life in the future. But i'll remember to keep it in the back of my head.

Now I've always had an interest in the guitar myself and had always yearned to be a master at the instrument. I think I'll keep that idea in the back of my head as well, since I always forgot how to read musical notes and how to play more complex cords. Last year in music class we focused on guitars and pianos for a pretty good amount of time, and I was okay at playing the piano but I was absolutely atrocious at playing guitar.

[Rulez]

I think I'll keep that idea in the back of my head as well,

Does not exactly mean what you think it means

[Dark Lum Lord]

I think I'll keep that idea in the back of my head as well,

Does not exactly mean what you think it means

Well, that's not exactly the first time that scenario of me "not exactly getting something" has happened, now is it.

[spiraldoor]

And I definitely agree that no one was "born" with talent - talent requires practice; much practice gives birth to skill.

Talent doesn't require practise. It's inherent and static. Practise is just the catalyst that brings talent to the fore. Certain people are better than others at certain things. No, it's not fair, but it's the way the universe works. This idea that we're all born exactly equal and can achieve anything we set our minds to is a cruel fantasy.

[Dark Lum Lord]

And I definitely agree that no one was "born" with talent - talent requires practice; much practice gives birth to skill.

Talent doesn't require practise. It's inherent and static. Practise is just the catalyst that brings talent to the fore. Certain people are better than others at certain things. No, it's not fair, but it's the way the universe works. This idea that we're all born exactly equal and can achieve anything we set our minds to is a cruel fantasy.

Well, I put a bit too much emphasis on the practicing part, but if someone shows a slight skill in some area then practice improves it. Now, not everyone can magically achieve talent in something after practicing, but it did sound like I painted that picture.

[Zikken]

And I definitely agree that no one was "born" with talent - talent requires practice; much practice gives birth to skill.

Talent doesn't require practise. It's inherent and static. Practise is just the catalyst that brings talent to the fore. Certain people are better than others at certain things. No, it's not fair, but it's the way the universe works. This idea that we're all born exactly equal and can achieve anything we set our minds to is a cruel fantasy.

I'm with you there except at the first part because my drawings weren't worth shit and I was the worst at drawing some years ago. I already reached where I wanted to be with them some years ago, but now i'm on some other goal with them. Also, if you don't practice you don't get better just saying. Although, I wouldn't start to try to practice with something i'm not good at all like writing.

If I were following by your logic I wouldn't even be drawing right now, I would just be a girl playing video games 24/7 with no goal in her life.

Now, not everyone can magically achieve talent in something after practicing, but it did sound like I painted that picture.

Pretty much yeah, it took me 5 years to get where I am at now.

[spiraldoor]

In that case I'd suggest that you had a talent for drawing and that it required some practise to bring it out.

[Zikken]

Maybe, I dunno.

Just got done being yelled at by my parents because I'm sick and that I can't go to school. Suddenly dad involved God and Jesus into this as a reason of why I'm sick because I don't believe in God. This just ended up with a fight of argument with him again with everyone yelling at each others until my mom told my dad to shut up, uhg, I'm tired of this. I feel like he wants me to be the perfect being he sees in his head and that he doesn't even try to understand my disabilities with my autism. He thinks he knows me but what he knows about me is actually 4 years behind, he doesn't even take time to try to understand me and apparently I would be the cause of all his troubles. I'm not a "normal" person like every kid he sees in the mall shopping and all that crap. He keeps saying that I should follow what he says, but last time I did I ended up in a fist fight with some bully, and more than half of what he says is things I don't wish to live with. Its like as if he lacked the ability to see that everyone is different.

[Adsolution]

How involved is your mother in dealing with your dad? Does she only interject if it gets loud?

[Zikken]

She only does when he start saying i'm a failure because of my "difference". Or when we start yelling at each others because everyone outside can hear us. Else they often fight because my dad is always upset how i'm doing anything like a "normal kid" and my mom doesn't like that.

[Adsolution]

In regards to your dad, has his behaviour evolved (for better or for worse) over time? I can't imagine someone living at your place to put up that kind of a schtick for too long without it getting old if it's something he consistently does.

[Zikken]

It get worse because I get older. He is doing this since I was 5 years old, I'm kind of used to it now.