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Re: Rayman Origins

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:37 pm
by Bloodgrey
I don't know why are you guys reffering to Ubi always, the 5 induviduals are going under the name of Ubi-Art. Not Ubisoft, they are separate little group connected to the big one, which I think wouldn't give a crap for Rayman and their fans if the little one wouldn't be there.

The Ly theory basically sounds very very very fanboyish, I doubt it's going to happen this way. Also just to note, I think it's really no point to speculate that much about the game, we don't know much of it, I don't demand to stop it, just like to note that I feel strange that you guys are throwing out speculations based on a very small piece of information, we don't see the end f the tunnel so don't get hard on it that much, but that's just my oppinion.

Also about all the tiny little details you are complaining about, like who created Rayman, and does caraters have limbs, and why does rayman have hoodiees, etc. you have to let this slide by you. They are not really crumbling up the whole universe, and to be honest, I really start to get tired about the fact, that being a fan means this kind of dedication for a title. I mean it's fine to like every little pieces of your desired medium, but for entertainent or moreso for story telling, or for giving a message out, it doesn't really matter. You just have to use suspended disbelief. and focus a bit more on what is the product for, message, exploration and entertainment.

Re: Rayman Origins

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:03 pm
by Jewish Candy
Bloodgrey wrote:I don't know why are you guys reffering to Ubi always, the 5 induviduals are going under the name of Ubi-Art. Not Ubisoft, they are separate little group connected to the big one, which I think wouldn't give a crap for Rayman and their fans if the little one wouldn't be there.
True - but UbiSOFT is the publisher, and therefore calls the shots. Though there's no doubt Ubiart has been given a lot of freedom... I hope it stays that way.
Bloodgey wrote:The Ly theory basically sounds very very very fanboyish, I doubt it's going to happen this way. Also just to note, I think it's really no point to speculate that much about the game, we don't know much of it, I don't demand to stop it, just like to note that I feel strange that you guys are throwing out speculations based on a very small piece of information, we don't see the end f the tunnel so don't get hard on it that much, but that's just my oppinion.
Of course all these Ly theories and speculations are fangirlish :wink: , but above all it's a way of entertaining bored people who would like more info but JUST CAN'T GET IT. I don't think anyone takes any of the speculation seriously.

Re: Rayman Origins

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 4:07 pm
by spiraldoor
Jewish Candy wrote:I don't think anyone takes any of the speculation seriously.
Except Bloodgrey. To him your theory about the pink monster being Ly is serious business.

Re: Rayman Origins

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:49 pm
by Bloodgrey
Um... actually no. That's why I told.
And stop trolling me, thanks.

On the other hand I apreciate Jewish Candy's nice response, way to go lady. :)

Re: Rayman Origins

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:16 pm
by Ephriokko
Jewish Candy wrote:Rayman's a nut... his BRAIN is the villian.
....ROFL. :lol: You've got a point there!
El Dango wrote:Rayman's a nut... his BRAIN is the villian.
The final boss should be him punching himself in the head then.
Oh my god. I laughed so hard. :lol:
Bloodgrey wrote:I don't know why are you guys reffering to Ubi always, the 5 induviduals are going under the name of Ubi-Art. Not Ubisoft, they are separate little group connected to the big one, which I think wouldn't give a crap for Rayman and their fans if the little one wouldn't be there.

The Ly theory basically sounds very very very fanboyish, I doubt it's going to happen this way. Also just to note, I think it's really no point to speculate that much about the game, we don't know much of it, I don't demand to stop it, just like to note that I feel strange that you guys are throwing out speculations based on a very small piece of information, we don't see the end f the tunnel so don't get hard on it that much, but that's just my oppinion.

Also about all the tiny little details you are complaining about, like who created Rayman, and does caraters have limbs, and why does rayman have hoodiees, etc. you have to let this slide by you. They are not really crumbling up the whole universe, and to be honest, I really start to get tired about the fact, that being a fan means this kind of dedication for a title. I mean it's fine to like every little pieces of your desired medium, but for entertainent or moreso for story telling, or for giving a message out, it doesn't really matter. You just have to use suspended disbelief. and focus a bit more on what is the product for, message, exploration and entertainment.
Ooh! Yay! A large post to take apart and individually post my many opinions to! It's been a little while since one of these was posted in the thread! Respondingto these things is FUN! YAAAAAAAAY! :mryellow: *brick'd* Ahem. Anyways... let's get started shall we? :3 And don't worry, I'm in no way tryin' to troll ya. It's just me sharing my opinion, as you have shared yours. :mrgreen:
I don't know why are you guys reffering to Ubi always, the 5 induviduals are going under the name of Ubi-Art. Not Ubisoft, they are separate little group connected to the big one
Who said that we were referring to Ubi Soft instead of Ubi Art? We just said 'Ubi.' I was under the impression we were talking about Ubi Art, not Ubi Soft. It's what I've been referring to, anyways; or both of them, since the little one - as you say - is a part of the bigger one. Therefore, when I talk about Ubi, it's about both of them since they are actually connected, and what one does is directly relevant to the other. :P
which I think wouldn't give a crap for Rayman and their fans if the little one wouldn't be there.
Unfortunately, this may be so. They've got other popular franchises. I'm rather grateful they allowed Ancel and his team to make one anyways though. :mryellow:
The Ly theory basically sounds very very very fanboyish
Don't forget the fangirls too. =P
I doubt it's going to happen this way.
Course we don't think it's actually gonna happen, that's why it's called speculation. :P
Also just to note, I think it's really no point to speculate that much about the game
Sure there's a point. It's entertaining, and gives us something to do to pass the time while we wait for it to come out. :3
we don't know much of it
Nope. We sure don't. =P
I don't demand to stop it
I'm honestly not too sure how many people would listen anyways. XD
just like to note that I feel strange that you guys are throwing out speculations based on a very small piece of information
Again. It's fun. :P
we don't see the end f the tunnel
Nope. That's why it's 'speculation.'
so don't get hard on it that much
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here, but I really hope it's not what my perverted-thanks-to-the-internet mind came up with. :fou2:
but that's just my oppinion.
And having an opinion is absolutely fine. It's what this thread is for after all. :3
Also about all the tiny little details you are complaining about
I agree it's silly to complain about those details. =P Some of 'em anyways.
like who created Rayman
Why would we complain about this? It's still the same guy who's working on Origins, and I'm personally psyched because of it. I'm not complaining at ALL. XD
and does caraters have limbs
Some people just want to fill in the gaps and are unsure of whether they're retconning this or whether it will be explained. I'm personally going for the former. :P
and why does rayman have hoodiees, etc.
Lawl. I found this ridiculous as well. :lol:
you have to let this slide by you
Agreement. :3
They are not really crumbling up the whole universe
Nope. I don't think they are either.
and to be honest, I really start to get tired about the fact, that being a fan means this kind of dedication for a title.
I take it you read the first few pages of the thread and saw Saber's posts, eh? I found that ridiculous too. =P
I mean it's fine to like every little pieces of your desired medium
And this is why we are talking about it. c:
but for entertainent or moreso for story telling, or for giving a message out, it doesn't really matter.
It does to some people. :P
You just have to use suspended disbelief. and focus a bit more on what is the product for, message, exploration and entertainment.
Yep. Some people can only suspend their disbelief so far though. I think they're just anxious that the game series they love is going to be changed forever in its new 'rebirth.'

Heh. That was fun. So many quotes. Heh. Hehe. HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE... 8D *brick'd again* ...Owie. :<

Annnnnd...
Jewish Candy wrote:I don't think anyone takes any of the speculation seriously.
I totally agree with this statement. At least, it certainly applies to me! :mryellow:

Re: Rayman Origins

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:40 pm
by Guywho'saguy
I'm looking forward to Origins ALOT. I hope Ubisoft do a 3D game after. :paranormal:

Re: Rayman Origins

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:06 pm
by spiraldoor
Bloodgrey wrote:Um... actually no. That's why I told.
You ‘told’ because you do not think the Ly theory is serious business? ‘Told’ what? I don’t understand you.
Bloodgrey wrote:And stop trolling me, thanks.
I was not ‘trolling’ you, I was pointing out how nonsensical your reaction to Jewish Candy’s theory was.

Re: Rayman Origins

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:31 pm
by Bloodgrey
Here we go again.

I told (my oppinion in my previous post, what you were refering to also, so it's not hard to guess we are talking about what I 'told' in that post, I don't get it why do you ask) because I think it's not serious business, and by the posts I felt that some may took it too serious, and I felt saying they better not to do, but that wasn't an URGENT thing to tell, I just felt it would have made some sense to say.

Ok then you are not trolling but you are calling my statements nonsensical, and you are treating me like I'm stupid. My oppinion opposes yours, and you can't let that slide by you. For me that kinda looked trolling, cause you can't get off me.

Sheesh...

@Ephriokko: Uh sorry I meant "don't be so hard on it", I usually don't change up words. I accept what you say, it's not like I want to control anybody (not like I could, hehe :D) I just gave out my oppinion, for the second time cause I felt I didn't expressed myself good enough, tried to say it from a different perspective, or with differnet choice of words. That's why the two "wall of text" posts what I made are there in this topic. I wanted to gave out my oppinion, and I didn't want to get in any arguement, cause it's not like I would change my mind and I guess others also wouldn't. Also I felt I had to state that maybe there are people, who's feeling I pointed at them, cause there are always people who are taking an "in general" statement as "personal", and I wanted to tell I don't refer to anyone personally (and no I'm not saying it is you, spiraldoor, I meant this in general). But as I see there will be always people who thinks it's their cup of tea, but I guess there's a reason for this.

Re: Rayman Origins

Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:16 pm
by Ephriokko
It's true we all have our own opinions. But it's human nature for us to try and argue against those we don't agree with, because we want to prove our way of thinking to be correct. Although it'd be nice if we could talk without getting into arguments, it's really inevitable - here or anywhere else. And hey, in some cases debating about these things is pretty dang fun... :wink:

Re: Rayman Origins

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:40 pm
by spiraldoor
Bloodgrey wrote:I told (my oppinion in my previous post, what you were refering to also, so it's not hard to guess we are talking about what I 'told' in that post, I don't get it why do you ask) because I think it's not serious business, and by the posts I felt that some may took it too serious, and I felt saying they better not to do, but that wasn't an URGENT thing to tell, I just felt it would have made some sense to say.

Ok then you are not trolling but you are calling my statements nonsensical, and you are treating me like I'm stupid. My oppinion opposes yours, and you can't let that slide by you. For me that kinda looked trolling, cause you can't get off me.
The theory that the giant pink monster is Ly was a joke. It was not serious in any way. Nobody showed any sign that they were taking it seriously. It seems rather patronising of you to step in and ‘inform’ us that it is ‘very very very fanboyish’ (whatever that means). You were the only one that gave the joke any kind of serious thought at all, yet you acted as if you were the only one capable of seeing it for what it was.
Bloodgrey wrote:Here we go again.
Bloodgrey wrote:Sheesh...
:boon:?

Re: Rayman Origins

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:19 pm
by Bloodgrey
spiraldoor wrote: The theory that the giant pink monster is Ly was a joke. It was not serious in any way. Nobody showed any sign that they were taking it seriously. It seems rather patronising of you to step in and ‘inform’ us that it is ‘very very very fanboyish’ (whatever that means). You were the only one that gave the joke any kind of serious thought at all, yet you acted as if you were the only one capable of seeing it for what it was.
Yeah, it's really patronising to give out a personal oppinion, with saying it several times that "I'm not for an arguement" and "this is just my oppinion", thats really "patronising" and yes thats like "acting like I'm the only capable seeing such things". [/irony]
Don't try to portrait a speculation as a joke, sure a speculation is not serious but it's still not a joke. And I really start to get enough of your nitpicking, see the others are ok with my oppinion and I can accept theirs to, you and me, we just dissagre and that's all, get off me already. Please. I'm getting tired explaining every sentences of mine for you to see you are trying to portrait me as I'm after you, or I'm about to put myself above others, cause I'm not. Do something helpful in your freetime, instead of poking me always.

And btw look up for "fanboyish" on Urban Dictionary if you don't konw the word.

If you just continue this I will just ignore any of your posts from now.

Re: Rayman Origins

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:23 pm
by ParadoxJuice
But...it WAS a joke :?

Re: Rayman Origins

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:27 pm
by Bloodgrey
Ok I kinda didn't get it, since it was written, sorry then.
Still I wasn't for prooving that I'm superior than anybody.

Re: Rayman Origins

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:31 pm
by spiraldoor
Bloodgrey wrote:Yeah, it's really patronising to give out a personal oppinion, with saying it several times that "I'm not for an arguement" and "this is just my oppinion", thats really "patronising" and yes thats like "acting like I'm the only capable seeing such things". [/irony] Don't try to portrait a speculation as a joke, sure a speculation is not serious, but I really get enough of all of YOUR patronising, see the others are ok with other's oppinion, why can't we just discuss this normally, we dissagre and that's all get off me already.
The idea that the pink monster is Ly is ridiculous. Jewish Candy was joking. She would have to be stupid in order to genuinely believe that the pink monster is Ly. Responding to her joke as if you thought she was being serious is highly patronising and an insult to her intelligence, that’s all.
Bloodgrey wrote:And btw look up for "fanboyish" on Urban Dictionary if you don't konw the word.
‘A passionate fan of various elements of geek culture (e.g. sci-fi, comics, Star Wars, video games, anime, hobbits, Magic: the Gathering, etc.), but who lets his passion override social graces.’ I don’t see the connection with the pink-monster-is-Ly joke theory.
Bloodgrey wrote:I'm getting tired explaining every sentences of mine for you trying to portrait me as I'm after you, or I'm about to put myself above others, cause I'm not.
Well it’s not my fault that English isn’t your first language, or that you have a tendency to make long, rambling posts that often obscure whatever point you’re trying to make. Not that there’s anything wrong with either of those things, but they’re really not a good combination.

Re: Rayman Origins

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:32 pm
by Haruka
Bloodgrey, don't tell me you were really believing on Jewish Candy. :lol:

Anyway, I've been thinking again in the possible price of this first episode from Rayman Origins. I noticed that a new Worms game was released a few days ago for PC, via STEAM, and it has got HD 2D graphics (With 3D elements/effects) that was based in a XboxLA game from Worms and the price really dropped my jaw: 14,99€. I wonder if Rayman Origins (either going to UbiSoft Store or STEAM) will have a smiliar price.

Re: Rayman Origins

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:15 pm
by Bloodgrey
Haruka wrote:Bloodgrey, don't tell me you were really believing on Jewish Candy. :lol:
I actually started reading the topic again with her post, so I didn't see all the funy stuff going before. So yeah I did think she meant it serious. And I was like, ah better not. I don't think it's that surprising, sometimes fandom really gets uncontrollably wild with speculations, especially on the net, and with not knowing each that deeply, I was expecting it could happen. Not like I waited for it or wanted to dramatically step in just gave some mumbling about it. Or at least that's what I intended to do. :D

Re: Rayman Origins

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:42 pm
by Ephriokko
Ooh... more drama-ish arguments. Inevitable, as I said, but dang can they be fun to watch... :D *eating popcorn* Looks like it's going to come to a close soon, though. Why do I always get to these things late? :(

Re: Rayman Origins

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:45 pm
by Jewish Candy
Don't worry, I think it has finished. :wink: Everything sorted out. :D

Re: Rayman Origins

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:49 pm
by Ephriokko
Aww. *throws away popcorn* Phooey. I missed a good show. D:>

...In all seriousness, though, it's great to see these things get resolved. It's much nicer to have a discussion when people aren't always going at each others' throats. :mryellow:

Re: Rayman Origins

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:12 pm
by Haruka
Tomorrow it will make 2 months that no new news appear neither on the RO blog or Ubiart blog. I wonder if the comments invasion on both bloggs depressed the team who is working on the game.