Rayman is basically trading living things (lums) for some abilities in Revolution, damn, he's cruel, but I could probably understand, lifting heavy barrels from time to time which slow you down can be both painful and tiresome, he needs healthy joints to fight evil.
Re: Rayman 2
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:25 pm
by Hunchman801
Ebray wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:05 am
"An unscrupulous gang of animal hunters or pirates have you and your friends (Ly, Clark, Globox, the whale and the Smallbeings) kidnapped and locked up in a zoo for extinct animals.
Because you (Rayman) can free yourself as the only one and are on the list of the endangered animal species as well, you try of course everything to free your companions."
It's the first time I've heard of a zoo. I remember a game box that mentioned a circus, but that's about it.
PluMGMK wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:20 pm
In French they don't say that, they say "Le tuer lentement, le tuer lentement !", which is a bit more disturbing!
Their best line is the one about their hoods, though.
Re: Rayman 2
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:35 pm
by Henchman1000
Zoo, mmmm... Wait, I remember a Tumblr post mentioning a zoo collecting rare species from planets and Rayman trying to free his friends and escape it. That was the early concept/story of Rayman 2.
EDIT: tried to upload an image I downloaded from Tumblr that mention this, but had issues with uploading, tryed digging on Tumblr but found this instead.
Dunno if this was already being shared or not, in case apologies. https://hyenadip.tumblr.com/post/425694 ... -there-was
Re: Rayman 2
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:52 pm
by Hunchman801
Well, the wiki says "zoo or circus" so I guess it's nothing new!
PluMGMK wrote: Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:20 pm
In French they don't say that, they say "Le tuer lentement, le tuer lentement !", which is a bit more disturbing!
Their best line is the one about their hoods, though.
Oh yeah, in English, they just say "my Dad is stronger than your Dad"…
Re: Rayman 2
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:19 pm
by Hunchman801
Too bad this got lost in translation!
Re: Rayman 2
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:10 pm
by PluMGMK
I would say it was deliberately censored rather than being lost!
Re: Rayman 2
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:26 pm
by Henchman1000
Yeah, more likely censored in the English version, since some countries allow certain type of content while others deem it inappropriate if it's being targeted to a younger audience (which is kind of understandable from that pov).
The rating system of "3+" games containing adult humour is another topic I guess.
Re: Rayman 2
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:50 pm
by Hunchman801
PluMGMK wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:10 pm
I would say it was deliberately censored rather than being lost!
Indeed it was! The French version is pretty good as it offers multiple levels of reading, appealing both to kids and adults. Maybe this was too much for the American public.
Re: Rayman 2
Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:50 pm
by Steo
Yeah this is definitely more disturbing, since it signifies slowly torturing Rayman to death in a 3+ game.
Re: Rayman 2
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:06 am
by Eeeebray
Found this magazine scans of Rayman 2, having some early stuff, such as an early level, etc.
Re: Rayman 2
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:08 am
by Steo
Oh nice, this is interesting.
Re: Rayman 2
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:07 am
by Retrofuge
Ebray wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:06 am
Found this magazine scans of Rayman 2, having some early stuff, such as an early level, etc.
Wow, it seems like I learn something new about this franchise everyday it seems. That's an nice find!
Re: Rayman 2
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:40 am
by deton24
I mentioned it before somewhere, but this game (initially developed for Dreamcast) was like cancelled in the middle of the project when it turned out they will need to port it to N64, and downgrade is needed. I wonder whether these screenshots come from such version, or they're just renders. Or they're just oversaturated due to scan quality. What's the date of release of this magazine?
Re: Rayman 2
Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:43 am
by dr_st
Ebray wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:06 am
Found this magazine scans of Rayman 2, having some early stuff, such as an early level, etc.
Very nice! Have you uploaded it to the wiki as well? I think we have an article or two where it would fit in well, just don't remember their names at the moment.
Re: Rayman 2
Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:56 pm
by Retrofuge
Not to interrupt the thread, I want to ask if Ubisoft was to remaster/remake Rayman 2 which version would they build off from? I really like Revolution version of the game to be honest. It would be really if nice if they built that version. There's been a lot of remakes, I have feeling they might use the PC version as a base though. Then, I'm not really sure.
Re: Rayman 2
Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:24 pm
by Hunchman801
Ebray wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:06 am
Found this magazine scans of Rayman 2, having some early stuff, such as an early level, etc.
Great find! It's nice to read more about this pirate zoo we recently discussed. Also note the mention of the Red Rum, Gorilla Pirate and Creole Pirate names. And yeah, it's probably a good idea to have that on the wiki.
Retrofuge wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:56 pm
Not to interrupt the thread, I want to ask if Ubisoft was to remaster/remake Rayman 2 which version would they build off from? I really like Revolution version of the game to be honest. It would be really if nice if they built that version. There's been a lot of remakes, I have feeling they might use the PC version as a base though. Then, I'm not really sure.
If I had to choose one, it would probably be the Dreamcast version, but ideally I would want them to also include the good stuff from the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 versions, and only the good stuff. As for Revolution specifically, I find that the cons far outweigh the pros, but we discussed it in far more depth in the worst version of Rayman 2 topic. I also find this post by Goldfist interesting.
Re: Rayman 2
Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:33 am
by Eeeebray
Found another scan with an early pic of Rayman using a mushroom in a different level.
And a scan of Razorbeard still being called by his old name: Razor face and an early Ly model which was showcased before.
EDIT: Found another scan with sketches, of levels from Rayman 2, which probably were never seen online before.
Re: Rayman 2
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:25 pm
by Hunchman801
Nice find, I don't remember seeing them anywhere but the style is instantly recognizable.
Re: Rayman 2
Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2020 3:28 am
by Elite Piranha
Ebray wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 12:06 am
Found this magazine scans of Rayman 2, having some early stuff, such as an early level, etc.
Hey, thanks a lot for posting these! I've never seen the storyboards for the cutscenes, it seems that the early version of the Spyglass Pirate was just the skeleton of a normal Henchman 800 (or maybe just a different model).
Ebray wrote: Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:33 am
Found another scan with an early pic of Rayman using a mushroom in a different level.
And a scan of Razorbeard still being called by his old name: Razor face and an early Ly model which was showcased before.
EDIT: Found another scan with sketches, of levels from Rayman 2, which probably were never seen online before.
The early models of Ly and Razorbeard look like Happy Meal toys .