Rayman 1

[Kiza/Raybox]

But tbh I'm *thankful* we got anything at all, you should be too. Imagine if Rayman didn't appear at all today in the State of Play, we would be very upset and we'd automatically assume Ubisoft didn't give a damn once again.

Be glad they actually gave a damn this time.

Totally agree with you! Can't wait for the edition to come, especially on Steam!

[lyndo64]

Does anyone know if the game will drop on Steam at midnight? Wanting to get it ASAP

[ChronicTraitor]

I'm mostly excited to see if there will be more to the SNES proto than the ROM we had access to years ago!

I REALLY HOPE this isn't another Rayman GBC Chromatic situation for the soundtracks, and that you'll be able to toggle back the originals, because it is timeless and it would be absolute heresy considering Remi Gazel's godlike work on the original! Rayman 1's OST is among the greatest classics!
PLEASE do not ruin this when it's this close to perfection!

My feelings exactly. I hope it's a togglable thing too, the soundtracks are all very different from one another and it'd be a shame to lose that.

I'm curious if they gave the prototype any music or sound, or found anymore of it. I knew most of the Pitch Bible stuff already, even brought the Le Histore De Rayman a few years ago just to learn more about the prototype. Maybe now that he's in an official game, we just might get Jim as a Rayman costume in future games like I've always wanted! I'm still calling him Jimmy though, I've gotten too used to using his casual name.

I'm really quite hyped for this, I'd love to be able to play the MS-DOS and Jaguar versions on my Switch. They've always interested me because of their differences from the other versions. Also I get the GBC port which is pretty cool because it's my favorite version, changed OST or no.

[Kiza/Raybox]

Does anyone know if the game will drop on Steam at midnight? Wanting to get it ASAP

I dunno BUT I hope it will be there! I need it so much rn

[RaypersonNikol]

Does anyone know if the game will drop on Steam at midnight? Wanting to get it ASAP

Assuming you're in EST, it will not drop until 11 AM, apparently, if you convert one of the time zones into EST.

[lyndo64]

Assuming you're in EST, it will not drop until 11 AM, apparently, if you convert one of the time zones into EST.

Thanks!

[Hunchman801]

Here is the trailer, by the way:

I'm mostly excited to see if there will be more to the SNES proto than the ROM we had access to years ago!

I'm pretty sure it's just going to be the ROM we all know.

I'm just disappointed the Saturn version isn't included (duh ) and THE fear I have right now is about that "immersive reimagined" soundtrack they mention on the Ubi Connect page (you can even see Christophe Héral on the documentary image )...
I REALLY HOPE this isn't another Rayman GBC Chromatic situation for the soundtracks, and that you'll be able to toggle back the originals, because it is timeless and it would be absolute heresy considering Remi Gazel's godlike work on the original! Rayman 1's OST is among the greatest classics!

Apparently, Saturn emulation is notoriously difficult, hence its absence from the prototype. Another thing that is notoriously complicated is music licensing, so don't expect to find the original soundtrack there either.

I knew most of the Pitch Bible stuff already, even brought the Le Histore De Rayman a few years ago just to learn more about the prototype.

L'Histoire de Rayman features 11 scans froms the The Bible of Game Design, some of which were hard to read, but Rayman 30th Anniversary Edition apparently features all 85 pages of it, presumably in high quality. That's going to be a lot of new information about the development of the game!

[Raynic]

YAY!!! A NEW RAYMAN GAME AFTER ALMOST 13 YEARS (excluding spin-offs)
I hope it won't be expensive like MKW..
Edit: it's 20 bucks.

[Hunchman801]

I hope it won't be expensive like MKW..

$20, according to RayGamer.

[Raynic]

Wait, let me get this clear.
MarIo Kart World is 80 dollars which means it's 320 PLN..
Rayman 30th Anniversary Edition is 20 dollars so that means...


RAYMAN 30TH ANNIVERSARY EDITION IS 80 PLN!!!!

[Hunchman801]

71.05 Polish złoty, according to Google, but local prices do not always follow exchange rates, so you'll have to see for yourself.

[Rsandee]

The SNES Rayman 1 prototype is cool, but I've always been more interested in the PSX Rayman 2 2D prototype, guess I'm never happy with what we're given at this point .
Still excited to see what the SNES prototype was like!

[Hunchman801]

The SNES Rayman 1 prototype is cool, but I've always been more interested in the PSX Rayman 2 2D prototype, guess I'm never happy with what we're given at this point .

Maybe wait for Rayman 2's 30th anniversary? Although I don't know if there's more to it than the prototype that's already included in the PlayStation version of the final game.

[dr_st]

Well, it just seems like everyone is doing these kind of collections these days - basically a compilation of touched-up re-releases + bonus content.
Sometimes we get previously unreleased stuff.

The Making of Karateka, Mortal Kombat Legacy Kollection are some other examples I can think of.

It's an easy way to capitalize on existing assets and rights, bring the game to new platforms and new audiences.
Nothing wrong with it. It's cool and definitely better like garbage like "GTA Trilogy Definitive Edition" which is the same old game with graphics "polished to look worse" and cut content.

But Rayman Redemption is still better.

[ChronicTraitor]

I'm pretty sure it's just going to be the ROM we all know.

I recall there was second ROM they had found from another point in development. I don't believe they were successful in extracting anything from it, far as I remember. I don't think I ever heard anything else about it after they'd posted about it, anyway...I doubt there's anything new.

Apparently, Saturn emulation is notoriously difficult, hence its absence from the prototype. Another thing that is notoriously complicated is music licensing, so don't expect to find the original soundtrack there either.

Saturn emulation is certainly possible, but good Saturn emulation?...1:1 might as well be impossible right now. As for the soundtrack, people could just use RayTunes, couldn't they?

L'Histoire de Rayman features 11 scans froms the The Bible of Game Design, some of which were hard to read, but Rayman 30th Anniversary Edition apparently features all 85 pages of it, presumably in high quality. That's going to be a lot of new information about the development of the game!

Oh wow, in high quality no less? I couldn't be happier to hear it, I've always wanted to know more about the prototype and that's a LOT more. Being interested in the SNES prototype is one of the biggest reasons I joined the RPC, so I'm really excited to be able to learn even more!

[Indy]

I'm the kind of person who is hardly impressed by anything these days. But seeing that this is happening I'm mildly intrigued.
Is it also coming to Steam perhaps? If it is I'm getting it. I can afford the game but I can't afford any new consoles and my PC doesn't run disks.

[Hunchman801]

I recall there was second ROM they had found from another point in development. I don't believe they were successful in extracting anything from it, far as I remember. I don't think I ever heard anything else about it after they'd posted about it, anyway...I doubt there's anything new.

I've been investigating the matter with Ubisoft but no news. Unless they decided to surprise me, I'm pretty sure it's the same old prototype.

Oh wow, in high quality no less? I couldn't be happier to hear it, I've always wanted to know more about the prototype and that's a LOT more. Being interested in the SNES prototype is one of the biggest reasons I joined the RPC, so I'm really excited to be able to learn even more!

That's probably what I look forward to the most in this release!

Is it also coming to Steam perhaps? If it is I'm getting it. I can afford the game but I can't afford any new consoles and my PC doesn't run disks.

It is coming to Steam. You can find the full list of platforms here.

[Mortamon Saturn]

I'm pretty sure it's just going to be the ROM we all know.

Quite likely, I'm guessing they worded the announcement like those "never seen before" concept arts on Twitter which we already had on RayWiki, becuz of m a r k e t i n g !
Still, it's good to see it officially preserved rather than being lost on random sites (including unsafe ones) all over the Internet...
Would also be cool if there's any music/sound this time!

Similarly, it's great to see the Atari Jaguar release and Rayman 60 levels finally being ported in a very accessible form after so many decades!

Apparently, Saturn emulation is notoriously difficult, hence its absence from the prototype. Another thing that is notoriously complicated is music licensing, so don't expect to find the original soundtrack there either.

I'm well aware, the system had a very complex architecture especially with how it used its cores separately to render some features, I personnally could never get Saturn emulation to work properly with anything...
Exhumed/PowerSlave (another game of my early childhood) had that issue as well and we never got a proper complete port of it... But at least, Nightdive did bother to mix its unique level design and most of its features with the PS1 version when they remastered the game (said remaster being based on a fan one and being worked on by the same fan who they hired for it )! And, of course, our beloved Ubislackers would never bother to go that extra mile!


And yeah, it can be especially complicated with Rémi's passing, but if garbage companies like Square Enix could figure it out for some of their rereleases decades later, or after the composer's death in Dragon Quest's case (despite how incredibly stingy Sugiyama could get with his music rights resulting in a lot of MIDI slop overseas), I don't see why it would be so impossible here.
At least I certainly can't call them lazy on this one, because doing an entirely new high-quality OST by a composer as talented as Christophe Héral isn't cheap, no matter how disappointing it is!

But no matter how great the new soundtrack is, this already makes it a weak rerelease that's gonna be outclassed by many past official ports and obviously Rayman Redemption (which they didn't even bother to compete with at all...). That's just very bad for preservation and for the nostalgia factor of that collection...
It's like their Heroes of Might and Magic 3 HD port which didn't include the essential expansions "because they lost the source code", and so, all the HoMM community ignored it to stick to the complete GOG release and ran it under the more faithful and polished HD mod instead!

Another thing that might suck is, like Chronic also thought, that the Jaguar and Advance versions aren't supposed to sound like the PS1/DOS releases... Did they bother to make unique soundtracks for them? I seriously doubt that, so it may end up sounding completely out of place, at least for Advance's graphics! Heck, we don't even know if ALL the tracks are remade or if it's gonna be another Rayman Forever case, but even worse
GBC is already covered at least (which further explains that whole unexpected Chromatic rerelease thing), but we all know how that one doesn't sound at all like a classic Rayman soundtrack despite how the new tunes are way more professional in terms of 8-bit composing...

Five versions of Rayman 1 is kind of a let down. I'd prefer if they did a collection of Rayman 1, 2, 3 and Origins and Rayman 3 GBA, Hoodlum's Revenge and RRR GBA.

lmao that's a really high bar to set, keep wishing, I guess...

But tbh I'm *thankful* we got anything at all, you should be too. Imagine if Rayman didn't appear at all today in the State of Play, we would be very upset and we'd automatically assume Ubisoft didn't give a damn once again.

Be glad they actually gave a damn this time.

They already did it once for most mainline games + Rayman M in the Rayman Collection, and that's not mentioning many past similar bundles including some handheld ones, they can easily do it again if they actually gave a damn.
I'll always keep saying it: a classic platformer franchise as legendary as Rayman which is so impactful for Ubisoft's history deserves a full course meal, not bread crumbs after over a decade of nearly nothing.
Yes we can be happy with what we have (and I am right now for once), but we should always strive for more, not settle for less.



Btw, pretty weird how the PS4 and Xbox One aren't considered for this port, and the PC specifications they listed are oddly demanding... I get there are some modern emulation features like rewinding and stuff, but c'mon... you could run all the games of this collection with the processing power of a PS2

Once again, we'll have to do all the work ourselves to get it right through mods if possible... but that still means console players will be left out in that regard, and I dislike the notion of thinking a new generation will grow up with a version of Rayman 1 without its original soundtrack!
And it's funny, because this got announced yesterday exactly when I was working on the 1.4.5 update for my Terraria Rayman 1 music pack... so I hate to live in a timeline where bloody Terraria of all games is going to sound more like the original Rayman than Rayman 1 itself!
...Man, we'll truly never ever get that Ultimate Rayman 1 port that gets *everything* right, do we? (and no I'm not talking about the PPC game lol... Speaking of which, missed opportunity to add the PDA versions of Rayman GBC, but they're probably lost to time...)


Am I gonna boycott the collection because I'm disappointed for the music? Heck no! Unless you actually butcher all of R1's identity, no force in the universe can stop Mortamon Saturn from buying his first video game again ad vitam æternam like the two-faced hypocrite he truly is!
I'm even gonna do a playthrough as soon as I can, and yes, I'll cover EVERY version included, whether my viewers can stomach the Rayman 1 overdose or not, NO ONE is stopping me!


Hey, regardless, I guess that'll be a good excuse for me to make another soundtrack-swap mod for Rayman Redemption instead!
I'm also already in the process of making a "Rayman 1-only" pack for it since last year and I already gave the game the Jaguar and Advance soundtracks!

[CosmicStrider]

I actually really liked the music in the trailer. Has a lotta life to it, wonder if that's a piece of the reimagined OST they mentioned. Definitely getting this on my steam ASAP.

It's always nice to see more Rayman 1 stuff too! ^^ The animation at the beginning was cute! Though man, had he fallen a little to the left, we would've had to bust out the fail trumpets.

[Kiza/Raybox]

It is coming to Steam. You can find the full list of platforms here.

YESSSSS!!! THANKS FOR THE INFO! Glad to hear that! Means a lot to me and other PC gamers