E3 2013

[OCG]

can someone please remind me how the fuck did Sony win E3?

By showing best games?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!


Don't make me laugh. It has good games, kid, but certainly not the best games on stage. If I remember, the game that got everyone overly hyped was Kingdom Hearts 3... and that game is also confirmed for Xbox One... and is still in development, so we won't probably hear about it in the next 2 years.

Funny how you called me kid but I am actually older then you.
Also who cares if game is exclusive or not. It is a game for that console. It is still good in library of console and it still makes console good for future when the games for current console won't be made anyomore, or be made very little (PS2 now only makes sports games). Not to mention that PS4 versions would look a lot better from graphical standard. As for KH 3. Who cares if it is for Xbox One as well. Good for Xbox One users. Sony users still have reason to be hyped since they will get to play awesome game.

[BzzitTheMoskito]

Sony won the E3 when it comes to Xbox-One vs PS4. Nintendo wins when it comes to games, and about Xbox-one, It's a Console/Decoder, fuck yeah I want that, changing from Games to TV instantly, yeah I want that. 24/7 hour online, no used games, don't want. So I will either get a Wii U or a PS4 at a later time.

[Keane]

Funny how you called me kid but I am actually older then you.

Physically.

I'm such a fucking dick.

Also who cares if game is exclusive or not. It is a game for that console. It is still good in library of console and it still makes console good for future when the games for current console won't be made anyomore, or be made very little (PS2 now only makes sports games). Not to mention that PS4 versions would look a lot better from graphical standard. As for KH 3. Who cares if it is for Xbox One as well. Good for Xbox One users. Sony users still have reason to be hyped since they will get to play awesome game.

I'm not sure how these same games magically make the PS4 game library better.

[sergiomonty]

Weeeell... ports for games that Wii U won't have technically count as "exclusives", since a lot of people won't buy/be able to buy an Xbox One. So.... (I'm still counting on red the ones that I consider shovelware/nobody's gonna buy)

Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag
Battlefield 4
Call of Duty: Ghosts
DC Universe Online
DriveClub
FIFA 14
Just Dance 2014
Killzone Shadow Fall
Knack
LEGO Marvel Super Heroes
Madden NFL 25
NBA 2K14
NBA Live 14
PlanetSide 2
Skylanders: Swap Force
Warframe Digital Extremes
Watch Dogs

Eh... EA games, casuals buy those. With some good sales EA could support Wii U next year. Still, those EA games will be hitting PS3 so... yeah, there's still no reason to buy the console.

[Adsolution]

Ironically, the games you've highlighted in red are likely to be top-sellers.

[sergiomonty]

Did you even pay attention? The ones painted in red are shovelware AND ports. Heck, even I know Watch Dogs is gonna sell a fucking lot.

[Adsolution]

I paid full attention, do you even know what you typed?

I'm still counting on red the ones that I consider shovelware/nobody's gonna buy

[sergiomonty]

Did you at least read the posts before mine?

Here's Keane, who originally marked them in red:

Let's mark all the ports and bad games

And I decided to retire the mark of some of the games that originally were considered ports, because for some countries those will be the unique version. But of course, I decided to point out:

I'm still counting on red the ones that I consider shovelware/nobody's gonna buy

Sadly, it seems that you didn't read Keane's post first, or at least the rest of the discussion.
Learn how to read, dumb bitch

[OCG]

Even if we read it, you still said: "that I consider shovelware/nobody's gonna buy"

[sergiomonty]

Even if we read it, you still said: "that I consider shovelware/nobody's gonna buy"

As I said, AC4, Just Dance 4, Watchdogs and even Skylanders are top sellers.
I already justified my point properly, I don't need to contradict myself randomly. See? this is the kind of stuff why I still call you "kid".

[Keane]

Even if we read it, you still said: "that I consider shovelware/nobody's gonna buy"

As I said, AC4, Just Dance 4, Watchdogs and even Skylanders are top sellers.
I visited a store today and their Skylanders section was almost twice the size of DS and 3DS combined.

[OCG]

See? this is the kind of stuff why I still call you "kid".

lol, like I care. This is internet and pretty much everyone calls everyone how he feels. I just found it first time funny and ironic.
Plus childhood was best part of my life.

[sergiomonty]

See? this is the kind of stuff why I still call you "kid".

lol, like I care. This is internet and pretty much everyone calls everyone how he feels. I just found it first time funny and ironic.
Plus childhood was best part of my life.

I'll call you sugartits then.

[Adsolution]

Sergio, your post still doesn't make sense, no matter how you try to explain it.

[OCG]

Sergio, your post still doesn't make sense, no matter how you try to explain it.

Exactly. He still said he thinks those games would sell bad.

I'm still counting on red the ones that I consider shovelware/nobody's gonna buy

Like you qouted before, he said he thinks nobody's gonna buy those games

[sergiomonty]

I'm just updating Keane's list. His list featured ports and games that nobody's gonna buy. While I removed some ports, I STILL COUNTED GAMES THAT I STILL CONSIDER SHOVELWARE (So far, I think the only one is DC Universe Online), but that doesn't mean that most of the titles marked in red aren't still ports.

This is the most CLEAR explanation possible of what I'm trying to say. If you don't understand it now, you're being complete idiots.

Exactly. He still said he thinks those games would sell bad.

Assassin's Creed sells, Watch Dogs will sell, Just Dance sells, and Keane, believe it or not, Skylanders SELLS.... but they are on Wii U. They're ports. That's why they are listed.

[Keane]

Off topic but I just wanna say that I think Sergio masturbates using creative methods.

[Rulez]

Off topic but I just wanna say that I think Sergio masturbates using creative methods.

Still not as interesting as my friend, whose first masturbation attempt was squeezing his penis between the "wall" of the bed and the mattress (it was that kind of bed). His mom even caught him doing that (he only did that because he thought it felt pretty good; he was oblivious to the fact that he just a funny thing).

[sergiomonty]

Off topic but I just wanna say that I think Sergio masturbates using creative methods.

oh dear

[Adsolution]

Hey kids: http://kotaku.com/microsoft-is-removing ... -514390310

Microsoft Is Removing Xbox One DRM

This could be the biggest backtrack in gaming history: Microsoft will reverse course on their DRM policies for Xbox One, dropping their 24-hour Internet check-in requirement and all restrictions on used games.

Here's Microsoft president of interactive entertainment Don Mattrick with the news:

• Last week at E3, the excitement, creativity and future of our industry was on display for a global audience.
  
  For us, the future comes in the form of Xbox One, a system designed to be the best place to play games this year and for many years to come. As is our heritage with Xbox, we designed a system that could take full advantage of advances in technology in order to deliver a breakthrough in game play and entertainment. We imagined a new set of benefits such as easier roaming, family sharing, and new ways to try and buy games. We believe in the benefits of a connected, digital future.
  
  Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One.
  
  You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world.
  
  So, today I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360. Here is what that means:
  
  An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.
  
  Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360.
  
  In addition to buying a disc from a retailer, you can also download games from Xbox Live on day of release. If you choose to download your games, you will be able to play them offline just like you do today. Xbox One games will be playable on any Xbox One console — there will be no regional restrictions.
  
  These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.
  
  We appreciate your passion, support and willingness to challenge the assumptions of digital licensing and connectivity. While we believe that the majority of people will play games online and access the cloud for both games and entertainment, we will give consumers the choice of both physical and digital content. We have listened and we have heard loud and clear from your feedback that you want the best of both worlds.
  
  Thank you again for your candid feedback. Our team remains committed to listening, taking feedback and delivering a great product for you later this year.

This comes after heavy criticism following an E3 in which Sony bragged about their own policies for the PS4, which Sony says will not restrict used games or require an Internet connection.

Since they revealed the Xbox One in May, Microsoft has faced non-stop criticism for announced policies that could drastically change the way we play games in the future. The Xbox One, they said, would require players to connect to the Internet once every 24 hours in order to keep the box playing games. You would have to activate each game by registering it on the web before playing. The console would also restrict the way that game discs are traded, borrowed, and shared, limiting the number of people who could own and play each game, and restricting trade-ins on a publisher-by-publisher basis.

Microsoft has justified these policies by saying that these moves are consistent with a shift to digital seen on Steam, iTunes and other digital platforms. However, in an interview with Kotaku last week, Microsoft's Phil Spencer admitted that the 24-hour Internet requirement was not a "selling point" for the Xbox One. He also said they had no plans for game-lending just yet.

By reversing on those policies, Microsoft calls a lot of things into question: what will become of the Xbox One's family sharing plan? Will publishers find other ways to block used games? And what of all the rhetoric of how "the bits"—the data on each game disc, rather than the discs themselves—are the future?