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Rayman's true origins

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:59 am
by Son of Dark
Hello everyone!

I wanted to bring up an arguable question as to Rayman’s origins. The trailer of Rayman Origins and other texts state that Rayman was created by the nymphs or more specifically, Betilla the fairy. But I’ve been thinking that from a logical point of view it may actually be possible that Rayman had no true creator…

You see, what we gather from the trailer is that the nymphs conjured the moonbeams of the summer whatever, and combined it with the amount of lums they’d gathered, in order to ‘create’ Rayman. The nymphs undoubtedly played the crucial part in bringing Rayman into existence, however that does not necessarily mean that they are the origin of Rayman.

The thing is, Rayman was ‘created’, or perhaps a better term would be ‘made up of’ moonbeams and illumination. Because Betilla was responsible for bringing these elements together we immediately assume that she is his creator and even his mother. Though the actual fact is that Rayman’s origins, his existence, and the most crucial and vital reason for why he exists are the moonbeams and the lums.

The nymphs simply played a part in this, they were needed only to bring these elements together so that Rayman would become from them, and this should also explain that Rayman has no parents, since he was not born from Betilla, he inherits no traits from her and the above lecture.


So those I my thoughts…

A point against this is that “oh, so you’re saying that you can’t be the creator of drawings since it’s the graphite that made them.” When you draw, you know exactly what you’re going to draw, you know the plot you’re drawing, and so on. The graphite has the potential of creating an infinite amount of different drawings, but your mind is what puts those drawings the way they are, the moonbeams and lums could only form that being of light one way and nothing else, they were solely responsible themselves for Rayman’s creation, Betilla could not use her mind into Rayman’s creation, she just helped therefore I believe it is not comparable.

You could also say “eeerrrrr, it’s same thing but on a larger scale!!!” But the ‘scale’ is very much different. And just think about it practically, it’s not a metaphor, clever phrases aren’t always true, the lums and moonbeams are a massive difference in greatness compared to a simple pencil, or even the materials to make Frankenstein’s monster. Almost as if they are their own creators and must be harnessed in order to bring forth their potential.

Rayman may have been ‘destined’ to preserve the balance, but no-one could have known what he’d turn out to be like. Of course, one could say, “ahhh, Frankenstein never knew how his monster would be but he’s still its creator.”

Yes, well in that way Betilla did ‘create’ Rayman, but the more suited thing to say would be that she is responsible for the moonbeams and lums to form Rayman, evidently resulting in the conclusion that Rayman is not connected to Betilla or the nymphs.

Just an opinion that I wanted to share, criticize all your want

Re: Rayman's true origins

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:00 pm
by Rulez
First of all, how'd you get 50 Tings in one post?

Re: Rayman's true origins

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:06 pm
by Son of Dark
Maybe it's because I wrote a massive lecture or something? How many tings are you meant to get get in a post? Or maybe someone randomly donated them though unlikely, I don't really know.

EDIT- Wow, got five for that one... ?

Re: Rayman's true origins

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:09 pm
by Master
The problem is that we've all agreed that the first RO trailer has been rendered non canon ever since it became a sequel.
The story of Rayman's creation is similar to what the RO trailer stated, but it was revised:
When the Creator had his very first bad dream, the nymphs gathered to invoke a being of light capable of saving our world: a creature both agile and carefree, as tenacious as he is hilarious, destined to crack up the Creator with his heroic antics and stop the nightmare!
Unfortunately, although not surprisingly, our bedazzling and bodacious nymphs were distracted by some zombie chickens on their way to the sacred snoring grounds of the Bubble Dreamer, and they lost a sack of lums chasing the crazy creatures over a cliff. Thus, they arrived late and with a lot less illumination.
In the end, Rayman was born with a few missing limbs, which as it turned out, made him a whole lot more limber!
—Official site, Rayman Origins

Re: Rayman's true origins

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:11 pm
by Rulez
You get 5 Tings per post, you see. The most likely case is that an admin/moderator donated 45 Tings to you, seeing as it's not in the transactions page (because I believe mods' and admins' donations aren't listed there).

Re: Rayman's true origins

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:15 pm
by Master
Indeed.
Anyways, I think you may have a point there, it doesn't actually say create, but rather, invoke, we know Rayman seems to be creature made of pure energy, given his death animations, Rayman 1 and 2 in particular, we know that Polokus himself was the result of the lums focusing their energies into thought, so perhaps, all the Nypmhs did was accelerate or replicate said process for Rayman.

Re: Rayman's true origins

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:17 pm
by Son of Dark
!!!!!

Exactly!

Thinking back, I always used to wonder why Rayman exploded into those things, but how could the developers of Rayman 1 know if RO at the time wasn't made?

Re: Rayman's true origins

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:09 pm
by Adsolution
Son of Dark wrote:Thinking back, I always used to wonder why Rayman exploded into those things, but how could the developers of Rayman 1 know if RO at the time wasn't made?
The RO developers likely wove these concepts around bits and pieces of preexisting things in the series (such as Rayman blowing up into a bunch of electoons upon death) so that it would logically fit in as well as possible. Unfortunately, I feel that some things were better left unexplained; Rayman 2's description if his origin was much more fantastic and mysterious.

Re: Rayman's true origins

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:18 pm
by GNineify
My headcanon is that Rayman had to be educated and raised before he'd be able to save the world. And the one to do that would've been his creator Betilla. I consider her as Rayman's non-biological mother.

Re: Rayman's true origins

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:19 pm
by Adsolution
Aye, same here actually.

Re: Rayman's true origins

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:01 pm
by Son of Dark
Adsolution wrote:
Son of Dark wrote:Thinking back, I always used to wonder why Rayman exploded into those things, but how could the developers of Rayman 1 know if RO at the time wasn't made?
The RO developers likely wove these concepts around bits and pieces of preexisting things in the series (such as Rayman blowing up into a bunch of electoons upon death) so that it would logically fit in as well as possible. Unfortunately, I feel that some things were better left unexplained; Rayman 2's description if his origin was much more fantastic and mysterious.
Yeah, I prefer Rayman 2's description as well, in Rayman 1 when Betilla granted Rayamn new powers she'd say something like "you need courage to move on" or something, so I guess she did raise him in a way, not to mention rayman activity centre and rayman junior!