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Rayman 3 HD Betas things [Early Begoniax + New Bird Found!]
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:53 pm
by GOT4N
So I was looking Rayman 3 HD with Droolie when I saw some files, these are images with text which contains an early Bégoniax + a bird!
Knaar_00
Knaar_70
Early Bégoniax!
Early name of Summit Beyond Clouds
Unseen bird!
Sorry for french texts, those were only in french!
Re: Rayman 3 - Early Begoniax + New Bird Found!
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:06 am
by Master
Those are some very fascinating finds indeed, actually. Well done!
Re: Rayman 3 - Early Begoniax + New Bird Found!
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:26 am
by Earth Gwee
I think these can go into the Rare Rayman Pictures thread.
Re: Rayman 3 - Early Begoniax + New Bird Found!
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:42 am
by GOT4N
Nice Idea! But should I delete topic?
Re: Rayman 3 - Early Begoniax + New Bird Found!
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:50 am
by Earth Gwee
Master could help you out.
Re: Rayman 3 - Early Begoniax + New Bird Found!
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:50 am
by buildersith
Yea, these probably didn't warrant a new topic, but still, very fascinating indeed, to me it looks like they were placeholders for the cutscenes during development. I typed the Begoniax and Bird texts into Google translate (because although it's awful, Google far surpasses my french skills) and this is what it came out with, with a little help from me and the power of online french to english dictionaries, because it refused to translate one word:
"And thus Rayman brought love and peace in the marshes. To thank him, the Witch and the Huntsman promised to take care of the wooglah (I'm pressuming the Uglies) and [told the two about] a path to the moor.
After three days of walking, our friends finally arrive at the edge of the second temple "
"Rayman and Globox fly into the air towards the moor to prankster spirits. They fly over the marsh caw-caw, when an unexpected event occurs ..."
I never read the Rayman 3 beta script that surfaced a couple years ago, so I don't know if any of the text here is new or not, but eh, it interested me, hence the real quick, lazy and shoddy translations.
Re: Rayman 3 - Early Begoniax + New Bird Found!
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:58 am
by GOT4N
If I remember right the Beta script, the text wasn't here :p
Re: Rayman 3 HD Betas things [Early Begoniax + New Bird Found!]
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:12 am
by GOT4N
I found a texture showing an image for a minigame named "Space Rush", does anyone knows that? I think it hasn't been used :p
Also, I found a "Toad Crush", but this is probably early name for Crush minigame :p
I also found a "Star Gate"
Re: Rayman 3 HD Betas things [Early Begoniax + New Bird Found!]
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:23 am
by GOT4N
Oh! Finally got those E3 textures working, these are only images of Rayman, Bégoniax, Razoff, a hoodlum and Rayman with Globox!
Edit: Wow, found a Rayman 1 picture on Skate textures lol
Edit2: I found some files which are openable with Visual Studio 2013, isn't that C++?
Click here for files
Edit3: Those are files from Rayman 3 I think!
/*==============================================================================================
* FILE "DX8_DEFORMATIONMATRIX.H"
*
* Created : 18 / 09 / 2001
* Author : Nicolas Meyer
* Description : Methods applied
* on a matrix.
*
* Formalism : Ubi guidelines
* Use the Ubi SDK
* Dependencies: Need absolutly to include "DX8_DEFORMATIONMATRIX.H"
* Need absolutly to include ""
* Functions : -
* -
*
* Copyright (C) 2001 by Ubi Studio Entertainment
* All rights Reserved.
*==============================================================================================*/
This is what written on a file!
Re: Rayman 3 HD Betas things [Early Begoniax + New Bird Found!]
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:59 am
by DandyGuy
Interesting finds. Maybe there might be something on that Rayman 3 link you posted in the merch thread. ill try to buy it and post the iso.
Re: Rayman 3 HD Betas things [Early Begoniax + New Bird Found!]
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:08 am
by GOT4N
DandyGuy wrote:Interesting finds. Maybe there might be something on that Rayman 3 link you posted in the merch thread. ill try to buy it and post the iso.
Thanks!
Re: Rayman 3 HD Betas things [Early Begoniax + New Bird Found!]
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:17 pm
by Droolie
We need a better Rayman 3 (early production) article asap.
Here's a description of the pictures (along with the pictures in their original resolution, might be better for the wiki):
In Clearleaf Forest, Rayman and Globox meet a special type of bird called a wooglah. After befriending it, it lets Rayman and Globox fly on its back. Murfy comes with them on their travels!
IMAGE 1: THE WOOGLAH
Rayman and Globox traverse the skies in the direction of the land of the prankster spirits. They fly over the croaking moor, where an unexpected event occurs...
(note that I translated the Land of the Livid Dead and the Bog of Murk differently because the French names are different as well)
The unexpected event is that the Wooglah gets wounded (or poisoned, as Globox talks about an antidote). Murfy points them in the direction of the witch Bégoniax in the moor, whom they ask for help. In return, Bégoniax asks them to find a beauty elixir hidden in the moor.
IMAGE 2: BÉGONIAX AND RAZOFF
And that's how Rayman brought love and peace to the moor. To thank them, the witch and the hunter promised to care for the wooglah, and showed a way to the land.
After three days of walking, our friends finally arrive in the outskirts of the second temple...
This means they presumably arrive in the Land of the Livid Dead. These temples were likely replaced by the doctors later on (how can one possibly like the idea of doctors better than the idea of temples?). It makes sense, given their locations remain the same in the final game. The next doctor, so also the next temple, is located in the Desert of the Knaaren...
IMAGE 3: THE DEADLANDS
After two days of walking, Rayman and Globox arrive in sight of the third temple, lost in the Deadlands...
Like in the final game, they walk trough the Deadlands for a while, and tumble into the ruins of the Knaaren.
The ruins were much like in the final game. You had to make sure the Knaaren didn't see you, and use gongs to distract the Knaaren. The tower with the Knaaren that you can find in the final game was already in the game at this stage, at least according to the beta script.
He gets captured, battles Reflux and gains the power of he Leptys...
IMAGE 4: SON OF THE LEPTYS
Having become son of the Leptys, and strong with is new power, Rayman asks Gumsi, the child king of the Knaaren, for an exit towards the third temple. Gumsi accepts his request, after making Rayman swear to never forget his Knaaren brothers.
Rayman and Globox arrive at last with the temple in sight.
Note that Murfy is still on this picture!
They reach the third temple, but in the meantime...
IMAGE 5: NEW ALLIES
The leader of the black lums succeeded in convincing Reflux to ally with him. He assured that with all of them, they would triumph against Rayman.
Reflux, blinded by his dream of vengeance, stole the scepter from Gumsi and escaped to the den of the black lums on the Isle Beyond the Clouds.
Thanks to the scepter, Refux gave the black Lums the power of the Leptys.
The worst was still to come...
Again, the world name is different, but it's likely mostly the same. The den of the black lums is Hoodlum Headquarters, and it is still located in the Summit Beyond the Clouds. The Tower of the Leptys and the Reflux battle were also mostly the same: with the scepter, Reflux becomes the Leptys itself, and you have to destroy 4 magic fluxes and finally destroying the scepter. Globox rescues Rayman with his ship. The end... I guess.

Re: Rayman 3 HD Betas things [Early Begoniax + New Bird Found!]
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:22 pm
by saerleiya
About the early name for the Summit Beyond The Clouds, it's almost the same in French, you are only replacing 'Summit' by 'Isle'/'Island'.
Re: Rayman 3 HD Betas things [Early Begoniax + New Bird Found!]
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:39 pm
by Haruka
Those are fantastic findings! Great job, guys!
There are really unseen artworks (pity there aren't high resolution versions of these, maybe one or other could pop up in the L'Histoire de Rayman book?) and they share some good info for the early production article. The picture with Gumsi isn't that rare by the way, it is present in the setup screen of Rayman 3 for PC.
Once more, that's a really nice finding!
EDIT (Screenshot added):

Re: Rayman 3 HD Betas things [Early Begoniax + New Bird Found!]
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:45 pm
by OCG
Awesome discoveries!
Re: Rayman 3 HD Betas things [Early Begoniax + New Bird Found!]
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:50 pm
by GOT4N
So I extracted Korean version (credit to OCG for uploading it, thanks!), I was sure they let one thing although they build the final 4 months after europe&us releases, it's a minor leap, but this may help for models :p
They let in the levels files the textures logs (I think?) and the model logs (?)
Model
Textures
Re: Rayman 3 HD Betas things [Early Begoniax + New Bird Found!]
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:11 pm
by Eeeebray
Hey, remember then I found those rare Rayman 3 pictures on Mhauss website?
storage/13774/5c3af06b959985cd623a23a5bec7b065 The bird in the picture I linked looks like the Wooglah, but smaller. Well, just saying, so you guys can see the bird in front view.
Re: Rayman 3 HD Betas things [Early Begoniax + New Bird Found!]
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 2:46 pm
by GOT4N
Yes! That's him!
Re: Rayman 3 HD Betas things [Early Begoniax + New Bird Found!]
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:02 pm
by Haruka
That bird was seen before in that very same website, but what it was extracted from the R3HD game is quite a novelty.
Re: Rayman 3 HD Betas things [Early Begoniax + New Bird Found!]
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:13 pm
by PluMGMK
These finds make me lament the zany direction that R3's story took later in development!
