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Grolgoth Salesman

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:55 am
by Etch
The being who sells the Grolgoth to Razorbeard. What is he? Who is he? I am told he is Burk from Tonic Trouble, but this is improbable because they are only similar in coloration, and Burk was a jock, not a general.

Perhaps this was an agent of Mr.Dark? Or perhaps he was indeed Burk after a promotion of sorts.
Has anyone seen him anywhere else? Does anyone have official art of him? any theories?

Re: Grolgoth Salesman

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:05 pm
by Xenon
According to the storyline, he's just a private messenger.

Re: Grolgoth Salesman

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:29 pm
by Lachimax
He is actually in Tonic Trouble as the general guy, but only in one version(I can't remember which.)

Re: Grolgoth Salesman

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 6:34 pm
by Hunchman801
He looks like characters in Tonic trouble, but I have never played this game, so I can't really tell.

Re: Grolgoth Salesman

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:09 pm
by Phoenixan
I believe he was from Tonic Trouble... Ancel actually loves to hide his characters from other games in places.

Re: Grolgoth Salesman

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:39 pm
by Lachimax
Yeah, like Moskito.

Re: Grolgoth Salesman

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:28 am
by Phoenixan
And he's hidden Ed in Beyond Good and Evil... in a starkos ad if you keep watching the tv's inside of room between tracks 1 and 2.

Re: Grolgoth Salesman

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:29 pm
by Jman
I have never played that game. It looks really fun though.

Re: Grolgoth Salesman

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:21 am
by L.M. Murphy
The salesman closely resembles Super Ed, as does the second mask:
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Re: Grolgoth Salesman

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:04 pm
by Hunchman801
That's not Moskito you can see in the Woods of Light, but Bzzit ;)

Re: Grolgoth Salesman

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:57 pm
by chrisgreathouse010
L.M. Murphy wrote:The salesman closely resembles Super Ed, as does the second mask:
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Wow, I never thought of that while I was playing the game! Maybe I had tonic trouble after I bought Rayman 2.

Re: Grolgoth Salesman

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:57 am
by L.M. Murphy
Rayman 2 came out first.

Re: Grolgoth Salesman

Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:58 pm
by K.NARREN
Guys, is that picture of the general from tonic trouble or rayman.... He's in the opening cinematic in tonic trouble.... If he is the salesman in rayman 2, (i havent got to the grolgoth yet) then he is definitely in tonic trouble... I think his name is XYZ.

Re: Grolgoth Salesman

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 8:42 am
by Lachimax
Yep, that's the guy from Rayman 2.

Re: Grolgoth Salesman

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:42 am
by L.M. Murphy
Yes, the first pic is of the salesman.
The second pic is of Super Ed.
The third is of the second mask in Rayman 2.

Re: Grolgoth Salesman

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:16 pm
by K.NARREN
Ahh...that slalesman had a speaking role as the general XYZ in the pc version of tonic trouble. That's the wierdest crossover ever....i never thought he'd turn evil...wait a minute! I just checked wikipedia-XYZ betrays tonic to sell something to the villain grogh at some point! Now it makes sense!

Re: Grolgoth Salesman

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:59 pm
by Hunchman801
Do you think both scenarii could be linked?

Re: Grolgoth Salesman

Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 7:58 pm
by Phoenixan
Um... guys... if you do a bit of research...

Tonic Trouble was made first.

Rayman 2 was made after.

Tonic Trouble was released AFTER Rayman 2 for reasons unknown... thought right now so that it wasn't to take any hype away from Rayman 2's release.

Re: Grolgoth Salesman

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:14 pm
by Hunchman801
I have always thought that Tonic Trouble was a try for Michel Ancel anyway :)

Re: Grolgoth Salesman

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:36 pm
by K.NARREN
It would still make sense now... Can't believe that it's such an obvious cameo... The fact that the character appears AS a character.