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Hi, I found some early screenshots of Rayman Raving Rabbids on IGN portal. The most important things are: connection with the cancelled prototype of Rayman RR, the original look of Pink, debug mode (or map editor?).

Topic about uncommon early/beta stuff from all versions of RRR.

RAYMAN RAVING RABBIDS

Pink's old look.





The old Xbox 360 version of Pink (its appearance is actually not changed in the Xbox version)



The old appearance of the Rabbids' machine in "Bunnies don't like being disturbed at night".



"Bunnies never close doors" with the Rabbid's early version.



The old version of the Rabbids' submarine in "Bunnies are addicted to carrot juice".


The old appearance of the Rabbids' UFO with the screen showing a frame from the cancelled Rayman RR prototype trailer ("Bunnies don't like being disturbed on holiday").



The old look of the "good" marker.



The pink Rabbid.



(Also appears in the GBA version)



Rayman in the prison cell.


Clark with a long cape.


Rabbids' old versions.





Map editor.








Debug mode.







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Rayman Raving Rabbids trailer



The early counter.


The early version of "Bunnies have no memory" (night sky).


The old appearance of the "horse" whip.


Promo image:


The old dance points counter.


Promo image:



Image from the press event.



Rabbids with branches.


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Beta videos

Rayman Raving Rabbids Games Convention 2006 demo preview (August-September) - Playlist on YouTube
IGN Article
List of the potential levels:

• Bunnies Just Wanna Have Fun
• Bunnies Helped Tame the Wild West
• Bunnies Are Addicted To Carrot Juice
• Bunnies Never Close Doors
• Bunnies Don't Know What To Do With Cows (no video, mentioned in the article)
• Bunnies Only Fly Downwards (no video, mentioned in the article)
• Bunnies Don't Like Being Disturbed On Holiday (no video, mentioned in the article)
• Bunnies Can't Jump (no video, mentioned in the article)

Rayman Raving Rabbids IGN demo preview (October) - Playlist on YouTube
IGN Article
List of the potential levels:

• Bunnies Don't Know What To Do With Cows
• Bunnies Can't Jump
• Bunnies Are Addicted To Carrot Juice
• Bunnies Don't Give Gifts
• Bunnies Have No Memory
• Bunnies Don't Use Toothpaste
• Bunnies Don't Milk Cows (no mention in the article)
• Bunnies Don't Like Being Disturbed On Holiday (no mention in the article, two videos)
• Bunnies Helped Tame the Wild West (no video, mentioned in the article)
• Bunnies Never Close Doors (no video, mentioned in the article)
• Bunnies Don't Like Bats (no video, mentioned in the article) (bat mentioned as a giant bird (?))
• Bunnies Rarely Leave Their Burrows (no video, mentioned in the article)
• Bunnies Are Oversensitive (no video, mentioned in the article)

RAYMAN RAVING RABBIDS DS

The old HUD.







RAYMAN RAVING RABBIDS MOBILE

Trailer with the unused content.

Interresting

So Pink was originally pink? That explains a lot...
Actually just seeing those reminds me that I actually enjoyed the atmosphere in some of the FPS levels. The other minigames aren't really worth it though, at least for me...

Nve wrote:The screenshot from "Bunnies never close doors" with the old version of Rabbid.




The old look of the Rabbids ufo with a screen showing a frame from the trailer of cancelled Rayman RR prototype (level - "Bunnies don't like being disturbed on holiday").

Look like the old look of the Rabbids were intended to come back in the party-game version of RRR.

Nve wrote:The old look of a Rabbids submarine in "Bunnies are addicted to carrot juice".

The old submarine model look very realistic compared to the final one. Probably a leftover from the cancelled prototype.

Nve wrote:3. The old look of the fly swatter.

A picture of the old fly swatter can be seen in the back of the box of RRR.

PluMGMK wrote:So Pink was originally pink? That explains a lot...

A very similar looking Rabbid actually appears in the GBA version, so I would not be suprised if Pink was carried over from the original prototype.

Birds858 wrote: A picture of the old fly swatter can be seen in the back of the box of RRR.

Good point. I didn't know that. In the full version is replaced with the fly swatter but this looks like a sand scoop.

Greeness wrote:
A very similar looking Rabbid actually appears in the GBA version, so I would not be suprised if Pink was carried over from the original prototype.

I think that it was a similar matter as with the Rayman 3 GBA. They have known something from another team (like Hoodlums), but not the complete story, so they decided to create their own (or they just not wanted to copy).

Update

The plunger on the second Pink image looks too good. I created a comparison.

In sequence: PC the highest graphics options, xbox360 version, the old version of a plunger (from these images), the second Pink image.

Nve wrote:Update

The plunger on the second Pink image looks too good. I created a comparison.

In sequence: PC the highest graphics options, xbox360 version, the old version of a plunger (from these images), the second Pink image.

Interresting, maybe it’s from the cancelled PS3 version or the developer planned to make a new model for the plunger gun for the Xbox360 version.

Edit : I just noticed that the player name on the second Pink image is ORC, a developer from the cancelled prototype of RRR.

Edit 2 : I just see a playthrough from the Xbox version of RRR and is the same plunger gun model as in the second Pink image. The only difference in the second Pink image, is the smoke is not green in the final game.

Birds858 wrote: Edit 2 : I just see a playthrough from the Xbox version of RRR and is the same plunger gun model as in the second Pink image. The only difference in the second Pink image, is the smoke is not green in the final game.

My fault. I took that image from this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wNE74V ... L&index=17

and it's probably played on PC with the Xbox360 controller.

So here is the image from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZR6SNM ... WOKEyxAvxR.



The second graphic is from the gameplay above.

I don't remember that we can approach Pink so close like in the first image, so we can't see his body accurately in the game.

I still don't see his red circle and pink/purple eyes.

Birds858 wrote: Interresting, maybe it’s from the cancelled PS3 version

Has the information like this been ever given?

Birds858 wrote: Edit : I just noticed that the player name on the second Pink image is ORC, a developer from the cancelled prototype of RRR.

Can I get a reference? RRR was evolving from the cancelled prototype to today's version, so most of the team probably stayed.

EDIT:

The old plunger appears on most of the RRR promo graphics.

Another comparison.

In sequence: the highest graphics settings, the lowest graphics settings, the old plunger.

Since this post is about early stuff in raving rabbids, id like to know some of the unused contend in The DS and GBA versions.

I mean, theres gotta be some.

I dont know how to go into the files of the roms tho...

Nve wrote:So here's an image from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZR6SNM ... WOKEyxAvxR to a comparison.



The second img is from above gameplay.

I don't remember that we approach Pink so close like in the first image so we can't see his body accurately in a game.

Maybe the picture is taken before the plaftform lower down for Pink.

Nve wrote:

I still don't see his red circle and pink/purple eyes.

Maybe the developer planned to make the eyes of Pink similar to the third image.

Edit : I notice that the circle on the vehicle of Pink was originally red instead of transparent.

Nve wrote:

Birds858 wrote: Interresting, maybe it’s from the cancelled PS3 version

Info like this was ever given?

There were rumors that there wil be a PS3 version so a first thinking this was from the PS3 but i was wrong.

Nve wrote:

Birds858 wrote: Edit : I just noticed that the player name on the second Pink image is ORC, a developer from the cancelled prototype of RRR.

Can I get a reference? RRR was evolving from cancelled prototype to today's version, so most of a team probably stayed

GOT4N did a interview met a developer from the Rayman 4 Phoenix and the prototype of RRR, he reveled that "ORC" was the level designer of the prototype before getting downgrader to playtesting, his name appear in all score of the minigames

The interview : viewtopic.php?t=2406&start=1040 (scroll down for see the interview)

Nve wrote:EDIT:

On most of RRR promo graphics is the old plunger.

Another comparison.

In sequence: the highest graphics settings, the lowest graphics settings, the old plunger.

Probably a old model.

StelzenBomber wrote:Since this post is about early stuff in raving rabbids, id like to know some of the unused contend in The DS and GBA versions.

I mean, theres gotta be some.

I dont know how to go into the files of the roms tho...

A cheat menu was found by GOT4N and Robin in the DS version : https://youtu.be/cfFnw3u1bGI

And that it a think ?

Edit : For a unknown reason, the link for the interview doesen’t work so a quote the message.

GOT4N wrote:

Carrot-master wrote:I've shown a bit more of the demo text If found in my Rayman 2 Unused Content video I just put together: https://youtu.be/bLh4-sk16o4

Nice!!
Btw, I had the chance to talk with a developper that worked on Phoenix Rayman 4, Rayman Raving Rabbids cancelled prototype AND RRR final!
Here what I gathered (this is for RRR final and prototype):
-The prototype was an open world adventure game
-It was cancelled because "it didn't convinced"
-It had worlds, dungeons
-Globox was supposed to be back
-Teensies as well, lums
-Plums were supposed to be back too
-The ambient was slightly mature, there were guns, grenades
-Rayman used his hand as a hook
-Each costume had a special ability
-With the bat, spider riding system, there was a flying scooter
-A lot of gameplay prototype elements were recycled into minigames (Bunnies don't know what to do with cow is an example, he told me it was from a gameplay in the prototype when Rayman had to turn around himself, throw a box, so it lands on an electric generator)
-A lot of the riding minigames codes were based on King Kong code
-There is an "ORC" in the top scores of each minigame of RRR, "ORC" was in fact a level designer for the proto, and he worked on KK, but then he got downgraded to playtesting, so he did crazy scores
-Minigames were poorly designed because the head office gave them designers that were sold as experts, but in fact they had just finished their degree

This is from the thread UnLockRay, page 53 in the forum Modding and Utilities.

Birds858 wrote:

Nve wrote:So here's an image from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZR6SNM ... WOKEyxAvxR to a comparison.



The second img is from above gameplay.

I don't remember that we approach Pink so close like in the first image so we can't see his body accurately in a game.

Maybe the picture is taken before the plaftform lower down for Pink.

Nve wrote:

I still don't see his red circle and pink/purple eyes.

Maybe the developer planned to make the eyes of Pink similar to the third image.

Nve wrote:

Birds858 wrote: Interresting, maybe it’s from the cancelled PS3 version

Info like this was ever given

There were rumors that there wil be a PS3 version so a first thinking this was from the PS3 but a was wrong.

Nve wrote:

Birds858 wrote: Edit : I just noticed that the player name on the second Pink image is ORC, a developer from the cancelled prototype of RRR.

Can I get a reference? RRR was evolving from cancelled prototype to today's version, so most of a team probably stayed

GOT4N did a interview met a developer from the Rayman 4 Phoenix and the prototype of RRR, he reveled that "ORC" was the lead designer of the prototype before getting downgrader to playtesting, his name appear in all score of the minigames

The interview : viewtopic.php?t=2406&start=1040 (scroll down for see the interview)

Nve wrote:EDIT:

On most of RRR promo graphics is the old plunger.

Another comparison.

In sequence: the highest graphics settings, the lowest graphics settings, the old plunger.

Probably a old model.

StelzenBomber wrote:Since this post is about early stuff in raving rabbids, id like to know some of the unused contend in The DS and GBA versions.

I mean, theres gotta be some.

I dont know how to go into the files of the roms tho...

A cheat menu was found by GOT4N and Robin in the DS version : https://youtu.be/cfFnw3u1bGI

And that it a think ?

Edit : For a unknown reason, the link for the interview doesen’t work so a quote the message.

GOT4N wrote:

Carrot-master wrote:I've shown a bit more of the demo text If found in my Rayman 2 Unused Content video I just put together: https://youtu.be/bLh4-sk16o4

Nice!!
Btw, I had the chance to talk with a developper that worked on Phoenix Rayman 4, Rayman Raving Rabbids cancelled prototype AND RRR final!
Here what I gathered (this is for RRR final and prototype):
-The prototype was an open world adventure game
-It was cancelled because "it didn't convinced"
-It had worlds, dungeons
-Globox was supposed to be back
-Teensies as well, lums
-Plums were supposed to be back too
-The ambient was slightly mature, there were guns, grenades
-Rayman used his hand as a hook
-Each costume had a special ability
-With the bat, spider riding system, there was a flying scooter
-A lot of gameplay prototype elements were recycled into minigames (Bunnies don't know what to do with cow is an example, he told me it was from a gameplay in the prototype when Rayman had to turn around himself, throw a box, so it lands on an electric generator)
-A lot of the riding minigames codes were based on King Kong code
-There is an "ORC" in the top scores of each minigame of RRR, "ORC" was in fact a level designer for the proto, and he worked on KK, but then he got downgraded to playtesting, so he did crazy scores
-Minigames were poorly designed because the head office gave them designers that were sold as experts, but in fact they had just finished their degree

This is from the thread UnlockTheRay, page 53 in the forum Modding and Utilities.

Interesting

Curious pictures I’m seeing here, especially pink, I wish they had used this design in the actual game, he looks...dareisayit....cute.

It was already on the wiki but here an anthor old design for Pink. (compared to the first Pink image.)

Nve wrote:The old look of Pink.

We can see that Pink was intended to be more cybernetic before wearing just a armor.

Birds858 wrote: GOT4N did a interview met a developer from the Rayman 4 Phoenix and the prototype of RRR, he reveled that "ORC" was the level designer of the prototype before getting downgrader to playtesting, his name appear in all score of the minigames

Thanks, btw I uploaded the old RRR commercial with ORC gameplay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSDbjlUlfWo

I found two not so interesting pictures.

Nve wrote: The old look of the "good" marker.

Nve wrote: The old dance points counter.

Jeuxvideo.com made an interview with Loïc Gounon. It's in French but says something about 75 minigames and 8 months of production (I do not speak French). Maybe this source is already known. The same portal contains the information about the versions of RRR (Xbox, PS3, PSP, GameCube, of course, this is not a 100% proof).

http://www.jeuxvideo.com/news/2006/00018553.htm

http://www.jeuxvideo.com/news/2006/00016527.htm

I think that will be the last update.

Nve wrote:

Birds858 wrote: GOT4N did a interview met a developer from the Rayman 4 Phoenix and the prototype of RRR, he reveled that "ORC" was the level designer of the prototype before getting downgrader to playtesting, his name appear in all score of the minigames

Thanks, btw I uploaded an old RRR commercial with ORC gameplay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSDbjlUlfWo

I already seen this commercial before but never seen that the player name is "ORC". Thank to notice that.

StelzenBomber wrote:Since this post is about early stuff in raving rabbids, id like to know some of the unused contend in The DS and GBA versions.

I mean, theres gotta be some.

I dont know how to go into the files of the roms tho...

I was just looking for no-IGN logo graphics for this topic but I found this.

Nve wrote:I was just looking for no-IGN logo graphics for this topic but I found this.

So Pink was also intended to be in the racing minigames. Interesting.

Nve wrote:

I never seen this image before, look like that Pink was also intended to have fur like the old Rabbids. Where did you find this image ?

Edit : I found these images when searching for new screenshots.

Are there any tools to open the RRR GBA rom?

StelzenBomber wrote:Are there any tools to open the RRR GBA rom?

I think there probably tool like that but i don’t know the name. Maybe a GBA emulator have a function to look into game files.

Birds858 wrote:

Nve wrote:I was just looking for no-IGN logo graphics for this topic but I found this.

So Pink was also intended to be in the racing minigames. Interesting.

It's probably not Pink. Bunny like this is used as a normal enemy in the GBA version.

Birds858 wrote:I never seen this image before, look like that Pink was also intended to have fur like the old Rabbids. Where did you find this image ?

http://8gamers.net/article/view/102002/

Birds858 wrote: A early version of the hud in the X360 version

This image is the screenshot from the Xbox version of RRR played with an Xbox camera. This pink thing at the right appears when you don't have an ammo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkv1FlHribI&t=73s

Birds858 wrote: I don’t remember Rayman being chased by a ufo in the mobile version

I didn't play the mobile version but (after watching gameplay) I think it's unused. You can see the cut pig section in the trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yyFh-iUn-Y
I just wonder about the origins of this image.

Birds858 wrote: Rayman doing a unused idle ?

Usually, devs are changing the arrangement of characters for promotional graphics. Like in these cases.

Birds858 wrote: Unused sections in Bunnies think they are stuck in a movie.

A good find. This room with a furnace is not in the game.