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Which Rayman Games Are Canon?
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:50 pm
by spiraldoor
Which games do you think should be considered canon? Rayman 1 and 3 are obviously canon, but what about R2 and Revolution?
Do any of the spin-offs, like RRR1, RRR2, RRR3, RM, Learning Games, or others have a single grain of canonical information?
What about the Animated Series?
Hoodlums' Revenge? The Gameboy Color versions of Rayman 1 and 2? The GBA platformer version of RRR1, which features locations from the original Rayman 1?
Discuss.
Re: Establishing Rayman Canon
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:13 pm
by Droolie
Okay, what I think...
Rayman 1 = obviously canon, it started the series!
Rayman 1 for GBC = I think it's canon. It almost has the same story ( I think, I never finished it ) as R1.
Rayman Learning Games = Oh well, who knows what happened between Rayman 1 and Rayman 2? Only Ancel himself, or maybe not even him! A lot could happen...
Rayman 2 = Canon, of course. It's one of the main Rayman games.
Rayman 2 for GBC = Dunno, never finished it.
Rayman Revolution = Well... I think it's less canon than Rayman 2, because of the differences between Rayman 2 and Rayman Revolution. I'd rather consider Rayman 2 as the original sequel to Rayman 1 than Revolution. And they couldn't have happened both

Rayman Animated Series = Not canon, I guess. If it is canon, where are all the cars in R2 and R3? Eaten? ( joke for who has seen the animated series ^^ )
Rayman M/Arena = Not Canon. Come on, all robo-pirates have been destroyed and Razorbeard is gone in Rayman 2, and now they're back?
Rayman 3 = Canon. Less canon than Rayman 2, but still...
Rayman Hoodlums' Revenge = No! Come on, admit it, it's a shitty story: Reflux is back, AND the Hoodlums are back. I thought all of the black lums turned into red lums at the end of Rayman 3?
Rayman Raving Rabbids = Less canon than the GBA version is. The original RRR story would've been canon though.
Rayman Raving Rabbids 2 = Not canon at all. Rayman travels to earth while pretending to be a rabbid? o_O
Rayman Raving Rabbids TV Party = Nope. the Rabbids are now trying to make Rayman, who is in front of his TV, crazy? X_X
That's what I think.
Re: Establishing Rayman Canon
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:48 pm
by Hunchman801
Rayman 1, Rayman 2 and Rayman 3. That's all for me, even though I love many others

Re: Establishing Rayman Canon
Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:55 pm
by spiraldoor
I say:
R1 = canon
R2 and Revolution = urrrgh...I want them both to be canon somehow...
R3 = canon, except where the Raymanian-English translator made them say stupid stuff
RM, RRR1, Learning Games and other spin-offs = I think that the characters and the levels and stuff are canon, but I don't think the events in the games are
RRR2 and 3 = the exact opposite of canon
Re: Which Rayman Games Are Canon?
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:05 am
by Holy Crap
I agree with Drol completely. With Revolution, can't really count the remake as canon over the original. Although I prefer to think of Revolution as canon, and go by that in things such as my fanfic.
Re: Which Rayman Games Are Canon?
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:01 am
by Kelvin12
Great Escape and Revolution can't be in one continuity but both can't be canon, only one and that could be either of them but that is my idea.
I choose to think Great Escape is Canon.
R1, R2, R3.
Agreeing with of course Hunchman and Droolie.
Re: Establishing Rayman Canon
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:35 pm
by stan423321
Drolpiraat wrote:Rayman Hoodlums' Revenge = No! Come on, admit it, it's a shitty story: Reflux is back, AND the Hoodlums are back. I thought all of the black lums turned into red lums at the end of Rayman 3?
I can't agree with you here. Reflux is NOT back (thing that you fight at end is mix of Globox, Doc (Andre) and Reflux's DNA). And, dark lums are back, because the end of ending isn't counted as a dream of Rayman, but as a... true end.
Re: Which Rayman Games Are Canon?
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:41 pm
by Droolie
Oh well. It's still not canon.

Re: Which Rayman Games Are Canon?
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:46 pm
by stan423321
True, though. I remember when there were rumours on completely another HR as an add-on for R3 for PC.
Re: Which Rayman Games Are Canon?
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:10 pm
by spiraldoor
I wonder if the original RRR (before it became a party game) is canon? I know it was GOING to be canon, but should the story of the old R4 be considered canon, even though it was never really made?
Re: Which Rayman Games Are Canon?
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:56 pm
by Hunchman801
I've never played Hoodlums' Revenge, is there anything interesting in it?
Re: Which Rayman Games Are Canon?
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:29 pm
by Cairnie
The only interesting thing about it Hoodlums' Revenge is that it's isometric. But that's about it.
Re: Which Rayman Games Are Canon?
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:32 pm
by Hunchman801
That's all I knew about it actually ^^
Re: Which Rayman Games Are Canon?
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:42 pm
by El Dango
R1,2 and 3 are canon. Rayman M doesn't even have a storyline, so...
And the Rabbid games are the worst spin-offs ever. Not canon at all.
Learning games = Perhaps.
RRR1 DS = Don't think so, but it still looks good.
HR = It's possible, but i'm not sure...
Animated series = Could have something to do with Razobeards past, but who knows?
Rayman Kart = A total character mess. Not canon. Can't be.
Rayman Golf/Bowling = Nah!
Re: Which Rayman Games Are Canon?
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:50 pm
by Spanex
Sorry to sound like a total noob now, but... What is canon? DX
Re: Which Rayman Games Are Canon?
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:14 pm
by Cairnie
Canon = genuine to a fictional universe according to the original creator, apparently.
Re: Which Rayman Games Are Canon?
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:45 pm
by Joshua822
Rayman 1, 2 and 3 and the original Rayman 4 are canon.
About the Rayman 2/Revolution question, they are both canon because they have the same story line

Re: Which Rayman Games Are Canon?
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:26 pm
by Lijik
For games, I always consider major releases on a console/handheld (Mario Galaxy, Wario Land 4, Rayman 2) to be cannon but remakes/spinoffs to not be cannon (unless the remake is specifically retconning) (RRR (which probably has its own separate cannon at this point), Mario Party, Wario Blast, Mario 64 DS, portable versions of Rayman console games). Canned games do not count as cannon (Original concepts of R2 and R4, Sonic Xtreme).
So for the Rayman series this leaves just R1, R2, and R3.
Re: Which Rayman Games Are Canon?
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:14 am
by Holy Crap
Joshua822 wrote:Rayman 1, 2 and 3 and the original Rayman 4 are canon.
About the Rayman 2/Revolution question, they are both canon because they have the same story line

Have you actually played Revolution? There are many differences that mean only one of them can be canon.
Re: Which Rayman Games Are Canon?
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:01 am
by stan423321
Hunchman801 wrote:That's all I knew about it actually ^^
It's actually very fun game, especially parts when you play as Globox... Plum juice in cannister meter = epic win.