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Re: Obama will be President of the USA after Janruary.

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I see nothing wrong with Stan's opinion.
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It is in the nature of Stan not to make any sense at all. Just ignore him.
I don't understand people who are against abortion in all cases. Certainly a woman should be allowed to terminate the pregnancy if it's a result of rape or incest. Not letting her do so would be insane!
I'm pro-abortion in all cases by the way. It's my opinion that every child should be a planned and wanted by their parents.

About Palin: She has also stated that blowing up abortion clincs are not terrorist attacks, but a favour to mankind. :?
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I see nothing wrong with abortion so long as it's for a just reason (rape, underage, lack of parenting skills etc). It's simply not fair for the child to be brought up in an environment where the parents are careless to its existence.

On the flip side aborting is essentially killing a child.
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If I was to become pregnant tomorrow, I would consider abortion, because even though many girls my age have had children, I don't feel I'm ready to be a mother. I've been completely incompetent looking after pets, but a human child...
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Xenon wrote: On the flip side aborting is essentially killing a child.
Depends how long into the pregnancy you are when you do it. If the child hasn't developed any significant cognitive abilities yet it can hardly be classified as killing imo.
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It's not like you've murdered your kid or anything. Women do that if they've been raped or can't afford to keep a child, or too young and stuff.
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How can you support death penalty, when it leads to killing innocents because of the numerous miscarriages of justice? How can one decide how deserves to die? That's against all moral.
As concerns creationism, it's a medieval absurdity that shall never be taught at school. Education has to be secular, and school must not be used as a vector of religious propaganda.
I don't see how abortion is a problem, as it concerns things that aren't even born. What's the matter with getting rid of embryos or young foetuses? Especially if it wasn't wanted, shows signs of a genetic disorder or is the result of a rape? I find it incredible how some people value the lives of such things more than those of potential innocents.
And finally, chill out with sex... I can't stand that horrible abstinence propaganda. Just leave people alone, clearly explain the dangers of unprotected sex, but for fuck's sake, shut the fuck up with the no sex before marriage thing. It's up to people's choice when to do it :roll:
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Sex before marriage is OK in my book.
Sex as a child or teenager however, is not.

And fffff creationism. >:C
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Hunchman801 wrote:How can you support death penalty, when it leads to killing innocents because of the numerous miscarriages of justice? How can one decide how deserves to die? That's against all moral.
As concerns creationism, it's a medieval absurdity that shall never be taught at school. Education has to be secular, and school must not be used as a vector of religious propaganda.
I don't see how abortion is a problem, as it concerns things that aren't even born. What's the matter with getting rid of embryos or young foetuses? Especially if it wasn't wanted, shows signs of a genetic disorder or is the result of a rape? I find it incredible how some people value the lives of such things more than those of potential innocents.
And finally, chill out with sex... I can't stand that horrible abstinence propaganda. Just leave people alone, clearly explain the dangers of unprotected sex, but for fuck's sake, shut the fuck up with the no sex before marriage thing. It's up to people's choice when to do it :roll:
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I agree with Hunchman801 for except that the theory of Creationism should be tought, and so would the evolution theory.
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StaceyW wrote:Sex before marriage is OK in my book.
Sex as a child or teenager however, is not.

And fffff creationism. >:C
Here, they give out condoms to 13 year olds.
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StaceyW wrote:Sex as a child or teenager however, is not.
So you mean no sex under 18? I wouldn't live in your world O_o
Joshua822 wrote:I agree with Hunchman801 for except that the theory of Creationism should be tought, and so would the evolution theory.
Well, I've already explained my point of view about it. I don't see why the Bible should be taught at school: take religious education courses instead. Creationism has nothing to do with science, so why teach it along with evolution?
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Why would you want to teach creationism in a science class? It has nothing to do with science.
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take religious education courses instead.
Best class ever. :D
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Call me a bore all you want people but having sex at young ages [I'm talking like, 13 and younger here] is not cruise control for cool.
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I saw a teenager the same age as me with a baby on the train. It was...freaky.
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StaceyW wrote:Call me a bore all you want people but having sex at young ages [I'm talking like, 13 and younger here] is not cruise control for cool.
I was 13 (almost 14) when I first did it and I still don't see how it was bad :?
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If the 'children' are aware of the consequences and potential outcomes of having unprotected sex, it's only their silly selves to blame for any mishaps, but the subject needs to be taught in schools so that young people do know necessary information.
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I'm calmer now, so I think we ought to get back to talking about Obama, if you please.
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Hunchman801 wrote: So you mean no sex under 18? I wouldn't live in your world O_o
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