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Re: Obama will be President of the USA after Janruary.

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It does suck, can you see why I don't believe in a god?
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Not everyone should get the permission for abortion. Abortion is murder. Only persons who's live is endangered from getting a baby should be able to do abortion. And if you don't wan't a child, prepare before making love :wink:
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If these women who abort are not allowed to kill unwanted babies, the may stop being such sluts.

I support the death penalty. Behold:

Option A: Murderers and rapists are imprisoned for the remainder of their lives in a jail, living out a pointless existence.
Option B: Murderers and rapists are executed, and the money that would otherwise be used to feed and look after them is used to build hospitals and save innocent people's lives.

A or B?

Also, which of these is better: to have drug dealers smuggling marijuana into America and becoming rich as their addicted customers suffer, or to have marijuana imported legally and taxed, taking money away from drug dealers and using the taxes to help addicts?
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Actually I've heard it costs an awful lot of money to execute someone, especially if the drug is hard to obtain.
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Xenon wrote:Actually I've heard it costs an awful lot of money to execute someone, especially if the drug is hard to obtain.
The way used on dogs: 10 packets of sleeping medicine. This means 'bout 400PLN. This is about 100 days of feeding the man (not including clothes etc.).
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One word: Guillotine
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This way, we can use electric chair or even an axe. However, 10 packets of sleeping medicine isn't too much.
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spiraldoor wrote: Option B: Murderers and rapists are executed, and the money that would otherwise be used to feed and look after them is used to build hospitals and save innocent people's lives.
An execution is way more expensive than keeping someone locked up for the rest of their lives. And since we don't live in the middle ages anymore, guillotine and hanging are not available options. Death penalty is a crime against the most basic human right, the right to live. i still can't believe that America can point their finger at other countries for breaking the human rights while they're breaking the most basic human right themselves at least once a week.
Joshua822 wrote:Not everyone should get the permission for abortion. Abortion is murder. Only persons who's live is endangered from getting a baby should be able to do abortion. And if you don't wan't a child, prepare before making love :wink:
Dumbest thing I've ever heard. A lot of women get pregnant after getting raped. Should they not be allowed abotion? And there's no foolproof way of prevention. Condoms, birth control pills and all other forms of prevention have a fail rate.

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I say that women who become pregnant after being raped should be allowed to have abortions.
Tobbe7 wrote:Democracy fails because of ignorants like you two...
Fuck democracy! McCain/Palin FTW!

I say if you kill someone, you should be executed. What is so wrong and evil about this?
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All the reasons for death penalty being wrong are listed in the last two or three pages in this thread. Read them yourself, because I don't feel like repeating them.
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Not sure where I stand as goes for capital punishment but concerning my previous argument Tobbe has summed it up perfectly.
I certainly don't think traditional methods like the guillotine or the whipping wheel should be used in any case, if people must die they should die painlessly.
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spiraldoor wrote:I say if you kill someone, you should be executed. What is so wrong and evil about this?
Also, according to you, you think if someone prefers something over Rayman, they should be executed. Either you're kidding, or you're criminally insane. (I tend to believe the latter.)
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*eyes Shawn's throat while holding knife behind back*

It is not too expensive to kill someone. Knock them out with a drug of some sort, and then you can kill them any way you want without them feeling pain. Whether or not they deserve it. A good way to kill someone would be to cut their brain stems after drugging them.
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Holy shit, you have a sadistic mind. :shock:
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Did anyone see that "Child Murderer" thing in the news? It was sick...
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I've only heard of it, I started playing the wii when the news was on.
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I mentioned that in my News topic. :)

And yes, it was sick. I wonder what the reason was. Maybe he's crazy, like Michael Myers.
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spiraldoor wrote:*eyes Shawn's throat while holding knife behind back*

It is not too expensive to kill someone. Knock them out with a drug of some sort, and then you can kill them any way you want without them feeling pain. Whether or not they deserve it. A good way to kill someone would be to cut their brain stems after drugging them.
You don't know the first thing about medicine, yet you keep coming up with humane, clever and cheap ways of execution. It amazes me how ignorant you are. If there was a way to cheaply execute people in a humane way someone would have thought of it long ago. And even if you could find such a method of execution, it doesn't justify death penalty. It's wrong, it's as simple as that.
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The cheapest way to kill someone would clearly be to starve them. Drugs can be very expensive and procedures have to be taken anyway.
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Someone who, say, molests a child does not deserve a humane death.

They deserve to have their eyeballs torn from their sockets and shoved down their windpipe. :twisted:
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