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spiraldoor · Post by **spiraldoor** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:16 pm

I listen to NewsTalk most nights...

YouTube · Post by **PluMGMK** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:04 pm

I just heard that Poland ratified it. This just leaves the Czech Republic...

Haruka · Post by **Haruka** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:30 pm

PluMGMK wrote:I just heard that Poland ratified it.

I just heard that news too.

spiraldoor · Post by **spiraldoor** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:14 pm

PluMGMK wrote:I just heard that Poland ratified it. This just leaves the Czech Republic...

@Democracy: Owned!

YouTube · Post by **PluMGMK** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:54 pm

spiraldoor wrote:
PluMGMK wrote:I just heard that Poland ratified it. This just leaves the Czech Republic...
@Democracy: Owned!

Hey, you'd be one of the victims too if that happened. Unless you're secretly planning to take over something or other.

spiraldoor · Post by **spiraldoor** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:09 pm

PluMGMK wrote:
spiraldoor wrote:
PluMGMK wrote:I just heard that Poland ratified it. This just leaves the Czech Republic...
@Democracy: Owned!
Hey, you'd be one of the victims too if that happened.

Yeah? And?

YouTube · Post by **PluMGMK** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:26 pm

I cannot grasp the stupidity of that post. You are just trying (and succeeding) to annoy me.

spiraldoor · Post by **spiraldoor** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:45 pm

PluMGMK wrote:You are just trying (and succeeding) to annoy me.

No I am not.

YouTube · Post by **PluMGMK** » Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:48 pm

Well, you're annoying me anyway.

Haruka · Post by **Haruka** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:37 am

Hold on a minute, afterall can someone explain to me what is that all bad about the Lisbon Treaty?

YouTube · Post by **PluMGMK** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:12 pm

Apparently, Irish voting rights in Europe will be decreased, democracy as a whole will be negatively affected, etc. However, Spiral's idea that it will federalise the EU is incorrect. I bet you 1000 Tings.

Tobbe · Post by **Tobbe** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:36 pm

PluMGMK wrote:Apparently, Irish voting rights in Europe will be decreased, democracy as a whole will be negatively affected

Irish voting rights won't be decreased, as far as I know. The Lisbon Treaty will just make it easier for the Council of Ministers to gain qualified majority without Ireland's support. To me this doesn't negatively affect democracy at all, since the Irish population constitutes less than 1% of the total population of the EU.

YouTube · Post by **PluMGMK** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:41 pm

Tobbe wrote:
PluMGMK wrote:Apparently, Irish voting rights in Europe will be decreased, democracy as a whole will be negatively affected
Irish voting rights won't be decreased, as far as I know. The Lisbon Treaty will just make it easier for the Council of Ministers to gain qualified majority without Ireland's support. To me this doesn't negatively affect democracy at all, since the Irish population constitutes less than 1% of the total population of the EU.

Lucky you to have a neutral viewpoint. Here in Ireland, we kept getting bombarded with propaganda from the Yes and No sides.

Tobbe · Post by **Tobbe** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:44 pm

That happened in Norway too in '72 and '94 when we voted against joining the EU. The 'NO-side' always screams the loudest during these propaganda wars, and it's always easier for them to win, even though they might have a much worse case than the 'yes-side'.

spiraldoor · Post by **spiraldoor** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:55 pm

PluMGMK wrote:
Tobbe wrote:
PluMGMK wrote:Apparently, Irish voting rights in Europe will be decreased, democracy as a whole will be negatively affected
Irish voting rights won't be decreased, as far as I know. The Lisbon Treaty will just make it easier for the Council of Ministers to gain qualified majority without Ireland's support. To me this doesn't negatively affect democracy at all, since the Irish population constitutes less than 1% of the total population of the EU.
Lucky you to have a neutral viewpoint. Here in Ireland, we kept getting bombarded with propaganda from the Yes and No sides.

Every single poster I saw (both pro- and anti-Lisbon) was a blatant lie. It was kind of amusing, in a way.

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