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No.

My opinion is that this world is just a tiny bit too weird to be explained by science only. I actually don't mind the thought of some force(s) governing over us, or the existance of things beyond mortal. As to whether that's God, Buddha, Allah, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster, that doesn't concern me much. X3

Well, I certainly don't think all major aspects of the Bible are correct (this is highly unlikely anyway), but I do think there is some scientific knowledge that humankind is totally unaware of. For instance, if we say that God DOES NOT exist, and the universe started through 'The Big Bang' theory, it demands the question of what was around before. I mean, something cannot stay in the same state for ever and ever - there has to be a time when everything began. This doesn't necessarily promote God's existence, but it does invite such great confusion. Scientifically, God cannot exist either. I don't really know. It's a tricky question to answer. I'm keeping an open mind for now, that's for sure.

No

No, it makes no logical sense.

Yes. My faith is unshakable.

Xenon wrote:Well, I certainly don't think all major aspects of the Bible are correct (this is highly unlikely anyway), but I do think there is some scientific knowledge that humankind is totally unaware of. For instance, if we say that God DOES NOT exist, and the universe started through 'The Big Bang' theory, it demands the question of what was around before. I mean, something cannot stay in the same state for ever and ever - there has to be a time when everything began. This doesn't necessarily promote God's existence, but it does invite such great confusion. Scientifically, God cannot exist either. I don't really know. It's a tricky question to answer. I'm keeping an open mind for now, that's for sure.

That's a pretty standard religious approach. You can't explain something, so your mind instantly turns to something supernatural, which in most cases tend to be some kind of God. It's true that the statement that The Universe started with the Big Bang invites to great confusion. But when you think about it, the statement that God created it invites to even greater confusion. Science isn't able to give you a definitive answer to the question of what happened before the Big Bang, but contrary to a lot of people's belief, it does provide you with some theories. By googling "before Big Bang" I found this article straight away:

http://www.fortunecity.com/emachines/e1 ... -bang.html

I advice all those who wonder about this to read it.
I strongly believe that sometime in the future, scientists will find the answer to the question of what happened before the Big Bang, just like they eventually figured out that diseases were caused by bacteria, viruses and fungi, and that all living things have evolved through Natural Selection, two things that for centuries have been attributed to God.

That's a pretty standard religious approach. You can't explain something, so your mind instantly turns to something supernatural, which in most cases tend to be some kind of God.

You've jumped to a conclusion.

It's true that the statement that The Universe started with the Big Bang invites to great confusion. But when you think about it, the statement that God created it invites to even greater confusion. Science isn't able to give you a definitive answer to the question of what happened before the Big Bang, but contrary to a lot of people's belief, it does provide you with some theories. By googling "before Big Bang" I found this article straight away:

http://www.fortunecity.com/emachines/e1 ... -bang.html

It was interesting to read that article, thanks a lot for providing it. To me, the most plausible explanation of what occured prior to the 'Big Bang' was a time loop, whereby time inverts itself just as the boundaries of space have. I suppose, this could mean what is happening now has also happened millions of years ago, which is mind-boggling to say the least... well, I'm not sure whether this is the case but it's certainly great to ponder.

Science still doesn't supply a definitive answer though, so I'm still subject to an open mind. I'm not sure if this huge mystery will ever be completely solved, but God ( ), if it is, it's certainly going to distort the world massively!

I'm breaking the trend--I do, though hopefully I don't spark some argument here, hehe...

foultzboyz wrote:I'm breaking the trend--I do, though hopefully I don't spark some argument here, hehe...

Yay! Another believer.

Xenon wrote:

That's a pretty standard religious approach. You can't explain something, so your mind instantly turns to something supernatural, which in most cases tend to be some kind of God.

You've jumped to a conclusion.

Yeah, I probably did. Sorry about that. But attributing something unexplainable to God is basic human nature. Of course, I presume you're too intelligent to do that. My point wasn't actually about what you did, but what human kind has been doing for millenia. Sorry if you took it personally.

btw, something I digged up that illustrates the difference between science and religion:

"The difference between a creationist and a scientist:

The creationist: "If all the evidence turned in favour of natural selection, I'd be the first to admit it, but I still wouldn't change my mind, because I am, and forever will be, a creationist. My faith is unshakable"

The scientist: "If all the evidence turned in favour of creationism, I' d be the first to admit it, and I would immediately change my mind."

No. And even if there is a god, the current state of the world is proof enough that he dosn't care about us as much as the Bible would have us believe.

I don't pretend I can explain everything in the world, but unlike most people, this doesn't lead me into thinking there has to be a God. I guess you all know it, I'm an atheist, but I don't think faith and science are incompatible. Many people in my family believe in God, some of them even attend Mass every Sunday, but they all consider creationism an absurdity and they sort of believe in the Big Bang theory, with some kind of a divine intervention.
I definitely think you can trust in God and not believe in Hell, creationism and other things. Religion is a question of faith, not a question of science.

There was nothing "before the Big Bang", as the Big Bang was the beginning of time.

Holy Crap wrote:No. And even if there is a god, the current state of the world is proof enough that he dosn't care about us as much as the Bible would have us believe.

Judging by the Bible, God isn't really too fond of us. Ever read the Book of Genesis? It says that God killed everyone except Noah and his family in a great flood. Everyone. Including women and children. That's mass murder, at least. Possibly genocide.

Okie lets celebrate the birth of some zombie who had to sacrifice himself in order to save us from the sins brought among men because some rib woman ate from a magical apple tree because a talking snake told her to.

Fail.

Harsh.

There is no proof, so i have to vote maybe.

Disregarding creationalism, does anyone think the belief of God and Hell are just deterrents for 'sinning' or bad behaviour?
Also, does anyone think the belief of God and Heaven are just non-existent sites that prevent people from fearing death?

spiraldoor wrote:Judging by the Bible, God isn't really too fond of us. Ever read the Book of Genesis? It says that God killed everyone except Noah and his family in a great flood. Everyone. Including women and children. That's mass murder, at least. Possibly genocide.

If you actually read it, you would know why.