Mac or PC?

[spiraldoor]

Mac and Linux fanboys have pissed me off so much that I refuse to even consider using those technologies.

[Matyuv]

Apple produces a lot of crap.

[PluMGMK]

Mac and Linux fanboys have pissed me off so much that I refuse to even consider using those technologies.

That's quite sad.

[stan423321]

Linux fans in Poland are really scary. Answer for 95% problems begins with "Install Linux". Even if I explain Linux once damaged my BIOS, they do not believe that and tell me to switch to different distribution.

[PluMGMK]

Linux fans in Poland are really scary. Answer for 95% problems begins with "Install Linux". Even if I explain Linux once damaged my BIOS, they do not believe that and tell me to switch to different distribution.

What happened to the BIOS ?

[stan423321]

Heh, not much, I was able to fix it and run Windows. It messed up RAM settings, as well as information about hard disks.

[PluMGMK]

Heh, not much, I was able to fix it and run Windows. It messed up RAM settings, as well as information about hard disks.

Now that's something new !

[spiraldoor]

Mac and Linux fanboys have pissed me off so much that I refuse to even consider using those technologies.

That's quite sad.

Only from the perspective of the aforementioned Apple and Linux fanboys. That’s the point.

[Rsandee]

Like there ever was a Mac vs PC war.

[Haruka]

PC of course.

Despite of Mac PCs having great colour contrast and resolution and overall system stability, I don't have a good relationship with Macs. Some of the reasons are in the pricings, no way to substitute/upgrade internal hardware, few compactible softwares and different user interface.

[El Dango]

PC pwnage!

[DandyGuy]

i voted for mac

[Adsolution]

Mac and Linux fanboys have pissed me off so much that I refuse to even consider using those technologies.

Hah. I agree with the Linux part. In my opinion it's crap because it has no dev team! It's run by the community and it's turned into a load of crap.

[DandyGuy]

Mac and Linux fanboys have pissed me off so much that I refuse to even consider using those technologies.

Hah. I agree with the Linux part. In my opinion it's crap because it has no dev team! It's run by the community and it's turned into a load of crap.

well thats for the end user it is for more the government more then any thing and for more advanced programers.

[PowerPatrick]

Mac and Linux fanboys have pissed me off so much that I refuse to even consider using those technologies.

Hah. I agree with the Linux part. In my opinion it's crap because it has no dev team! It's run by the community and it's turned into a load of crap.

It's fine for everyone to have their preferences, but that doesn't give you the right to spread ignorant and baseless arguments with blatant lies.

First of, Linux refers to either the kernel, where the name originate, or the abbreviation of GNU/Linux, which makes it an operating system because of the combination with a userland. To correct you, these open source projects DOES have a maintaining dev team, but they get massive assistance from contributing developers. A main principle of code distribution in open source is branches, where you can implement your own solutions to the existing code in order to improve it. You can get it applied to the main branch, which is the official source code of the project, if you follow the guidelines and documentation that requires/describes integrity and compatibility. Otherwise, you can share and use the code for other purposes if not applied to the main branch. More developers actually means a huge advantage, opposite to what you think.

To pack GNU/Linux as an operating system must include a variety of tools, setups, configurations, managers, services and applications, that results in a distribution. Such project does have a maintaining dev team as well. Just like Ubuntu is sponsored and maintained by Canonical.

Linux, with other open source software, have a massive market share and use in servers (powering most of the Internet services), supercomputers, embedded systems (from mission critical rocket and satellite systems, to network equipment like your router, to your television, down to your microwave oven), mobile systems (operating systems such as Android, Maemo and MeeGo), media centres, forensics solutions (data recovery, information analysis and tracking) and even modding/hacking solutions. It's only lacking on the desktop, where Windows is the only dominant one, especially for consumers.

Google, Facebook, Amazon, eBay, Twitter, Wikimedia, CERN, all use Linux to power their whole infrastructure. And speaking of these companies and organizations, together with Intel, AMD, IBM, HP, Red Hat, Novell, Cisco, Oracle, Samsung, Nokia, Fujitsu, and even Microsoft, they all contributes to the Linux kernel. And then there's most of the Internet who makes use of Linux for their websites.

I use GNU/Linux on the desktop for pretty much everything productive. Software development, where I use Eclipse, Geany, Gedit and command-line tools. Electronic music production, where I use FL Studio, Reason and LMMS. Graphics design and animation, where I use Gimp, Photoshop, Inkscape, Illustrator, Flash and Synfig. Documentation and notes, where I use OpenOffice, Microsoft Office, Xmind, Evernote and LaTeX. The Windows applications runs completely well in the Wine compatibility layer, with the exception of Illustrator being the only one I run in a virtual machine so far.

Apropos of multimedia software, Linux does also have a huge advantage, because of the flexibility and freedom of changing kernel modules and subsystems. For example, you can switch between multiple audio systems on-the-fly. ALSA with pulseaudio layering is the default for general-purpose. JACK is for productive purposes, as it provides low-latency and real-time audio, providing extended MIDI interfaces. JACK with a Linux kernel can actually provide far less latency than the audio subsystems in Windows and Mac OS X. My FL Studio runs flawless with it.

Linux, besides of Unix itself, is one of the largest contributions ever made to the world of computing technology. Deal with it.

Even if I explain Linux once damaged my BIOS, they do not believe that and tell me to switch to different distribution.

I seriously doubt that a simple Linux installation just reflashed the firmware interface. But all operating system kernels does communicate with the ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface), which handles processor, power and devices states, including standby (suspend to RAM). It does also contain a DSDT (Differentiated System Description Table) being a programmable configuration that describes all PCI basesystems, but it's only being fetched read-only. But the question is: What is actually to blame, if that was the case? I would blame the motherboard for having an extremely weak security mechanisms, that's not optimized for other operating systems. But I think it's more likely that either the BIOS have a quick-boot feature that only supports Windows bootloaders, reacting different towards GRUB, LILO or SYSLINUX, or the BIOS doesn't support GUID Partition Tables. Either way, you can try to reset the CMOS, if possible.

[Adsolution]

Mac and Linux fanboys have pissed me off so much that I refuse to even consider using those technologies.

Hah. I agree with the Linux part. In my opinion it's crap because it has no dev team! It's run by the community and it's turned into a load of crap.

It's fine for everyone to have their preferences, but that doesn't give you the right to spread ignorant and baseless arguments with blatant lies.

First of, Linux refers to either the kernel, where the name originate, or the abbreviation of GNU/Linux, which makes it an operating system because of the combination with a userland. To correct you, these open source projects DOES have a maintaining dev team, but they get massive assistance from contributing developers. A main principle of code distribution in open source is branches, where you can implement your own solutions to the existing code in order to improve it. You can get it applied to the main branch, which is the official source code of the project, if you follow the guidelines and documentation that requires/describes integrity and compatibility. Otherwise, you can share and use the code for other purposes if not applied to the main branch. More developers actually means a huge advantage, opposite to what you think.

To pack GNU/Linux as an operating system must include a variety of tools, setups, configurations, managers, services and applications, that results in a distribution. Such project does have a maintaining dev team as well. Just like Ubuntu is sponsored and maintained by Canonical.

Linux, with other open source software, have a massive market share and use in servers (powering most of the Internet services), supercomputers, embedded systems (from mission critical rocket and satellite systems, to network equipment like your router, to your television, down to your microwave oven), mobile systems (operating systems such as Android, Maemo and MeeGo), media centres, forensics solutions (data recovery, information analysis and tracking) and even modding/hacking solutions. It's only lacking on the desktop, where Windows is the only dominant one, especially for consumers.

Google, Facebook, Amazon, eBay, Twitter, Wikimedia, CERN, all use Linux to power their whole infrastructure. And speaking of these companies and organizations, together with Intel, AMD, IBM, HP, Red Hat, Novell, Cisco, Oracle, Samsung, Nokia, Fujitsu, and even Microsoft, they all contributes to the Linux kernel. And then there's most of the Internet who makes use of Linux for their websites.

I use GNU/Linux on the desktop for pretty much everything productive. Software development, where I use Eclipse, Geany, Gedit and command-line tools. Electronic music production, where I use FL Studio, Reason and LMMS. Graphics design and animation, where I use Gimp, Photoshop, Inkscape, Illustrator, Flash and Synfig. Documentation and notes, where I use OpenOffice, Microsoft Office, Xmind, Evernote and LaTeX. The Windows applications runs completely well in the Wine compatibility layer, with the exception of Illustrator being the only one I run in a virtual machine so far.

Apropos of multimedia software, Linux does also have a huge advantage, because of the flexibility and freedom of changing kernel modules and subsystems. For example, you can switch between multiple audio systems on-the-fly. ALSA with pulseaudio layering is the default for general-purpose. JACK is for productive purposes, as it provides low-latency and real-time audio, providing extended MIDI interfaces. JACK with a Linux kernel can actually provide far less latency than the audio subsystems in Windows and Mac OS X. My FL Studio runs flawless with it.

Linux, besides of Unix itself, is one of the largest contributions ever made to the world of computing technology. Deal with it.

Even if I explain Linux once damaged my BIOS, they do not believe that and tell me to switch to different distribution.

I seriously doubt that a simple Linux installation just reflashed the firmware interface. But all operating system kernels does communicate with the ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface), which handles processor, power and devices states, including standby (suspend to RAM). It does also contain a DSDT (Differentiated System Description Table) being a programmable configuration that describes all PCI basesystems, but it's only being fetched read-only. But the question is: What is actually to blame, if that was the case? I would blame the motherboard for having an extremely weak security mechanisms, that's not optimized for other operating systems. But I think it's more likely that either the BIOS have a quick-boot feature that only supports Windows bootloaders, reacting different towards GRUB, LILO or SYSLINUX, or the BIOS doesn't support GUID Partition Tables. Either way, you can try to reset the CMOS, if possible.

The key to conversation: brevity. That was a needlessly long post, said in a very non-user-friendly manor that could have been shortened down to one, maybe two paragraphs if you wanted to get your point across. this was just overkill beyond the max, because I'm a blatant liar apparently. You can prove me wrong, but you don't need to spend an hour telling me every aspect about how the system works.

[DandyGuy]

Mac and Linux fanboys have pissed me off so much that I refuse to even consider using those technologies.

Hah. I agree with the Linux part. In my opinion it's crap because it has no dev team! It's run by the community and it's turned into a load of crap.

It's fine for everyone to have their preferences, but that doesn't give you the right to spread ignorant and baseless arguments with blatant lies.

First of, Linux refers to either the kernel, where the name originate, or the abbreviation of GNU/Linux, which makes it an operating system because of the combination with a userland. To correct you, these open source projects DOES have a maintaining dev team, but they get massive assistance from contributing developers. A main principle of code distribution in open source is branches, where you can implement your own solutions to the existing code in order to improve it. You can get it applied to the main branch, which is the official source code of the project, if you follow the guidelines and documentation that requires/describes integrity and compatibility. Otherwise, you can share and use the code for other purposes if not applied to the main branch. More developers actually means a huge advantage, opposite to what you think.

To pack GNU/Linux as an operating system must include a variety of tools, setups, configurations, managers, services and applications, that results in a distribution. Such project does have a maintaining dev team as well. Just like Ubuntu is sponsored and maintained by Canonical.

Linux, with other open source software, have a massive market share and use in servers (powering most of the Internet services), supercomputers, embedded systems (from mission critical rocket and satellite systems, to network equipment like your router, to your television, down to your microwave oven), mobile systems (operating systems such as Android, Maemo and MeeGo), media centres, forensics solutions (data recovery, information analysis and tracking) and even modding/hacking solutions. It's only lacking on the desktop, where Windows is the only dominant one, especially for consumers.

Google, Facebook, Amazon, eBay, Twitter, Wikimedia, CERN, all use Linux to power their whole infrastructure. And speaking of these companies and organizations, together with Intel, AMD, IBM, HP, Red Hat, Novell, Cisco, Oracle, Samsung, Nokia, Fujitsu, and even Microsoft, they all contributes to the Linux kernel. And then there's most of the Internet who makes use of Linux for their websites.

I use GNU/Linux on the desktop for pretty much everything productive. Software development, where I use Eclipse, Geany, Gedit and command-line tools. Electronic music production, where I use FL Studio, Reason and LMMS. Graphics design and animation, where I use Gimp, Photoshop, Inkscape, Illustrator, Flash and Synfig. Documentation and notes, where I use OpenOffice, Microsoft Office, Xmind, Evernote and LaTeX. The Windows applications runs completely well in the Wine compatibility layer, with the exception of Illustrator being the only one I run in a virtual machine so far.

Apropos of multimedia software, Linux does also have a huge advantage, because of the flexibility and freedom of changing kernel modules and subsystems. For example, you can switch between multiple audio systems on-the-fly. ALSA with pulseaudio layering is the default for general-purpose. JACK is for productive purposes, as it provides low-latency and real-time audio, providing extended MIDI interfaces. JACK with a Linux kernel can actually provide far less latency than the audio subsystems in Windows and Mac OS X. My FL Studio runs flawless with it.

Linux, besides of Unix itself, is one of the largest contributions ever made to the world of computing technology. Deal with it.

Even if I explain Linux once damaged my BIOS, they do not believe that and tell me to switch to different distribution.

I seriously doubt that a simple Linux installation just reflashed the firmware interface. But all operating system kernels does communicate with the ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface), which handles processor, power and devices states, including standby (suspend to RAM). It does also contain a DSDT (Differentiated System Description Table) being a programmable configuration that describes all PCI basesystems, but it's only being fetched read-only. But the question is: What is actually to blame, if that was the case? I would blame the motherboard for having an extremely weak security mechanisms, that's not optimized for other operating systems. But I think it's more likely that either the BIOS have a quick-boot feature that only supports Windows bootloaders, reacting different towards GRUB, LILO or SYSLINUX, or the BIOS doesn't support GUID Partition Tables. Either way, you can try to reset the CMOS, if possible.

i see some one knows how to copy and paste

[Adsolution]

i see some one knows how to copy and paste

I highly doubt that's copypasta, it's probably just an eager knowledge outlet he was able to fill over the top.

[DandyGuy]

i guess only he knows that any way linux is the kernal for mac so is-it mac basically linux?

[PowerPatrick]

The key to conversation: brevity. That was a needlessly long post, said in a very non-user-friendly manor that could have been shortened down to one, maybe two paragraphs if you wanted to get your point across. this was just overkill beyond the max

That's a shame then. Just read the 4th and 6th paragraph.

because I'm a told a blatant liar lie

You can prove me wrong, but you don't need to spend an hour telling me every aspect about how the system works.

Believe me, that was far, far from it, because I could make a 10-hour technical lecture about highly in-depth perspectives and history of the operating system, if I would.

i see some one knows how to copy and paste

I highly doubt that's copypasta, it's probably just an eager knowledge outlet he was able to fill over the top.