I don't want to start an argument, so I'll just leave this here:
I don't believe there will be an End of the Earth (see how I replaced 'World' with 'Earth'?) for billions of years. There will be one eventually, but not yet.
And the WORLD will never end. The universe will go forever and ever and ever. It's unlimited. It's 'invincible'.
Re: In one year...
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:26 pm
by spiraldoor
DesLife wrote:I'm not sure humanity will still be there in hundreds of billions of years. I think we'll be extinct before we can even think of a solution to colonize other planets - unless we find a mass relay on Mars, which I highly doubt.
I think the beings who survive the next few billion years will be AI constructs, or new creatures evolved from humans. If there are any actual humans still alive at that point, I imagine they would be artificially enhanced to the point of being unrecognisable.
Rulez wrote:I don't want to start an argument, so I'll just leave this here:
I don't believe there will be an End of the Earth (see how I replaced 'World' with 'Earth'?) for billions of years. There will be one eventually, but not yet.
And the WORLD will never end. The universe will go forever and ever and ever. It's unlimited. It's 'invincible'.
The scientific consensus is that the universe will end at some point, through a Big Freeze or Big Crunch or other cosmic disaster (I forget which theory is leading at the moment). But then again, the scientists who came to these conclusions did so with their squishy, inefficient human brains. Who’s to say what a being trillions of times more intelligent than any human would have to say regarding the matter of the fate of the universe?
Re: In one year...
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:38 pm
by Spanex
spiraldoor wrote:
Tobbe wrote:
spiraldoor wrote:The universe won’t end. I’m sure we’ll have figured something out by that point.
Why are you so sure of this?
We have technology now that would have been unimaginable to most people even a few decades ago. If the rate of technological advancement continues to accelerate, I expect that all problems will eventually be solved. There are hundreds of billions of years left to figure these things out, and the ones doing the figuring may be far more intelligent than humans – the solutions will not necessarily be things that we could currently understand.
Spanex wrote:There's another belief that a ninth planet known as Nibiru (or Planet X) will pass Earth closely in it's course during 2012, the gravity of Nibiru overthrowing that of Earth's and toppling it.
I saw that film; it’s called Melancholia and it’s a lot better than 2012.
I never knew there was a film inspired by Nibiru. I'll look it up. I love world-disaster movies.
Re: In one year...
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:42 pm
by Tobbe
You loved 2012?
Re: In one year...
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:45 pm
by Spanex
Tobbe wrote:You loved 2012?
I didn't say that. I love disaster movies, that doesn't mean I love all of them though.
Re: In one year...
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:49 pm
by DesLife
spiraldoor wrote:
DesLife wrote:I'm not sure humanity will still be there in hundreds of billions of years. I think we'll be extinct before we can even think of a solution to colonize other planets - unless we find a mass relay on Mars, which I highly doubt.
I think the beings who survive the next few billion years will be AI constructs, or new creatures evolved from humans. If there are any actual humans still alive at that point, I imagine they would be artificially enhanced to the point of being unrecognisable.
This sounds quite optimistic to me. It could very well turn out we'll never be able to create an AI close to a human's mind.
Re: In one year...
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:51 pm
by Tobbe
Spanex wrote:
Tobbe wrote:You loved 2012?
I didn't say that. I love disaster movies, that doesn't mean I love all of them though.
Okay, but did you?
Re: In one year...
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:55 pm
by Spanex
Tobbe wrote:
Spanex wrote:
Tobbe wrote:You loved 2012?
I didn't say that. I love disaster movies, that doesn't mean I love all of them though.
Okay, but did you?
Ehhh, it was nice, but not what I normally expect of a disaster movie.
Re: In one year...
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:55 pm
by Cairnie
Say aren't we long overdue for a supervolcano to erupt? 'Cause I am pretty sure that is quite, quite deadly; whether that'll happen in our lifetime or not, it's bound to happen some day.
Re: In one year...
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:53 pm
by Adsolution
DesLife wrote:
Hunchman801 wrote:
RayFan9876 wrote:Interestingly enough, I've read that Mars will become inhabitable for a few million years during the Sun's expansion stage.
I'd be interested in reading that article.
Same.
I read it a good two or three years ago in Yes, which is a Canadian science magazine I have a subscription to. It's probably the most worth-it out of any subscription I've ever paid.
On disaster movies: I enjoy story and/or narration most of all, as such in Melancholia, but I'm also in love with realistic simulation, such as in 2012, even though a lot of it was exaggerated. What I dislike is watching people in movies suffer, and 2012 has a lot of it.
Re: In one year...
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:09 pm
by Raven
Interesting how I can't choose from the option : 'The magnetic core will suddenly stop working' which sounds more realistic to me. It has already been proven it has started to decrease in power, and without our core, we die due to the sun's radiation.
Re: In one year...
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:19 pm
by Adsolution
Raven wrote:Interesting how I can't choose from the option : 'The magnetic core will suddenly stop working' which sounds more realistic to me. It has already been proven it has started to decrease in power, and without our core, we die due to the sun's radiation.
*Que scene of man trying to turn valve in centre of the earth, but it's too hot and he melts on it*
If that were to happen, I highly doubt it would be so sudden. Besides, the core has been weakening and changing since the beginning of time, and chances are that it won't happen for the duration of the Universe.
Re: In one year...
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:50 pm
by Tobbe
Raven wrote:Interesting how I can't choose from the option : 'The magnetic core will suddenly stop working' which sounds more realistic to me. It has already been proven it has started to decrease in power
Lolwut? The strength of the dipole component of the Earth's magnetic field has been decreasing for the past 200 years, but this is in no way evidence that it will continue to decrease and finally disappear. The strength of the magnetic field fluctuates naturally. And why do you think it is realistic that the geodynamo will suddenly stop?
Re: In one year...
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:32 pm
by El Dango
Re: In one year...
Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:36 am
by beebo44
DesLife wrote:
beebo44 wrote:2012 will be like any other year, that's right. No apocalyptic earthquakes. No massive tsunamis washing over Australia. No meteorites/asteroids colliding with the Earth. No total destruction of the universe. Comprehendo? Good.
Got that right!
Hey has anyone seen this national geographic or discovery channel (Can't remember which one) documentary where they talk about "martian dust" or whatever (The same stuff that makes up martian dust devils, search it they're real) and how if any came to Earth in large quantities it could devastate civilization? (Devastate as in damage very badly)