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Re: Burgers

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:58 pm
by Rulez
Serza5 wrote:
Rulez wrote:
technology4617 wrote: It isn't like any Europeans haven't been racist against Americans. (I'm talking to you, Haruka and Rulez. :hehe: ) You're right about it being stupid, that same accusation applying to me as well.
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To be fair, anything I say that comes off as offensive is usually supposed to be a really bad joke.
I fail to see why you need to make a joke "offensive" to be funny. I mean, is it not better to make a non-offensive one than to make an offensive one with the chances of hurting someone? That doesn't mean to say you have to appease to everyone that can be remotely butt hurt at anything but if you know you're going to hurt someone with a joke then why bother making it?
There's a few things wrong with this post and some right.

Re: Burgers

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:02 am
by Serza5
Rulez wrote:
Serza5 wrote: I fail to see why you need to make a joke "offensive" to be funny. I mean, is it not better to make a non-offensive one than to make an offensive one with the chances of hurting someone? That doesn't mean to say you have to appease to everyone that can be remotely butt hurt at anything but if you know you're going to hurt someone with a joke then why bother making it?
There's a few things wrong with this post and some right.
I do believe this is the part where you explain why you think that.

Re: Burgers

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:09 am
by Hoodcom
El Dango wrote:Not a big fan of McDonald's (especially their burgers) but KFC is amazing!
Just avoid our KFC at all costs... they... suck... big time.

Expect at least an hour wait every time, and your order being wrong every time. :tssk:

Re: Burgers

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:24 am
by technology4617
Hoodcom wrote:Expect at least an hour wait every time, and your order being wrong every time. :tssk:
Every fast food joint described in a single sentence. :P
Rulez wrote:To be fair, anything I say that comes off as offensive is usually supposed to be a really bad joke.
Yes, but people don't usually complain when you and Haruka make racist jokes against Americans. I never really minded, but I don't understand why others take it so personally. I guess the difference was me defending my position.

Re: Burgers

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 12:41 am
by Snagglebee
Hey, question does Jasmis exist in america ? Because when I still was in Bahrain, they were all kind of fast-food resaurants like PizzaHut, McDonalds, Burger King, ... and Jasmis. Here in germany there is no jasmis, but maybe it is just a restaurant in the arabian countries.

Re: Burgers

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:24 am
by technology4617
emshomar wrote:Hey, question does Jasmis exist in america ?
Not that I know of.

Re: Burgers

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:21 am
by Adsolution
Serza5 wrote:I fail to see why you need to make a joke "offensive" to be funny. I mean, is it not better to make a non-offensive one than to make an offensive one with the chances of hurting someone? That doesn't mean to say you have to appease to everyone that can be remotely butt hurt at anything but if you know you're going to hurt someone with a joke then why bother making it?
Well, virtually all humour is derived from the idea of degrading something, so every joke is offensive to a massively varying degree. If you take Rulez for instance, his humour is incredibly hard to find offensive most of the time (unless you're really, really new) because it's so ridiculously executed. Obviously there are boundaries ('too soon', etc), but what makes something offensive is moreso the execution than what's being implied.

Technology clearly isn't racist, but the joke was executed perfectly straight, which given the circumstance of nearly everyone here being European, makes it just eye-rollingly lame. If there were a more even split then maybe it would have worked 10% better (which still isn't really mch). To expand upon why: it's one guy walking into a room full of others of a different culture and already putting up a border between something as trivial as food. Clearly it was meant in humour, but it shows that, just for a split second, you're willing to put yourself above the other culture, excluding yourself, and being okay with it. Unless you've become really close buddies with the people of the board who are perfectly comfortable around you and who know your personality well, it's better not to partake in such an arrogant form of humour.

Re: Burgers

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:03 am
by Rulez
Serza5 wrote:
Rulez wrote:
Serza5 wrote: I fail to see why you need to make a joke "offensive" to be funny. I mean, is it not better to make a non-offensive one than to make an offensive one with the chances of hurting someone? That doesn't mean to say you have to appease to everyone that can be remotely butt hurt at anything but if you know you're going to hurt someone with a joke then why bother making it?
There's a few things wrong with this post and some right.
I do believe this is the part where you explain why you think that.
Adsolution explained one thing, but the part that bothered me most was you implying this is the only fucking type of humour I have.

Re: Burgers

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:07 pm
by Serza5
I do not mean to imply such things about people although i'm perfectly aware that I do make out to be that way; which I apologize for. The post was aimed more at those type of jokes in general more-so than people who make them, even though I quoted directly from you. I can only but apologize for the confusion; I do not mean to imply things about our members in my posts that would come off as arrogant.

@Ads: Aye aye, I understand.

Re: Burgers

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:17 pm
by Rulez
It's quite alright Serza. It's just that the way you said "I fail to see why you need to make a joke "offensive" to be funny" made it seem like you think my mindset is essentially "I have to be funny, ergo I must be offensive".

Re: Burgers

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:24 pm
by Serza5
I certainly don't think that, I question some of the jokes you make but I know your intentions aren't to offend anyone.

Re: Burgers

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:48 pm
by technology4617
Adsolution wrote:Technology clearly isn't racist, but the joke was executed perfectly straight, which given the circumstance of nearly everyone here being European, makes it just eye-rollingly lame. If there were a more even split then maybe it would have worked 10% better (which still isn't really mch). To expand upon why: it's one guy walking into a room full of others of a different culture and already putting up a border between something as trivial as food. Clearly it was meant in humour, but it shows that, just for a split second, you're willing to put yourself above the other culture, excluding yourself, and being okay with it. Unless you've become really close buddies with the people of the board who are perfectly comfortable around you and who know your personality well, it's better not to partake in such an arrogant form of humour.
I was aware that the majority of the people here were European, so it was a bit of a troll post as well. :twisted: But since I'm not a very active user in Rayman PC, as you said, it probably would have been best to keep my mouth shut.

Re: Burgers

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:07 am
by Haruka
technology4617 wrote: It isn't like any Europeans haven't been racist against Americans. (I'm talking to you, Haruka and Rulez. :hehe: )
I might be suffering short memory but can you please explain me what did I do?

Re: Burgers

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:38 am
by OCG
LOL, what did I miss here? It's funny in what direction this topic went :P
Anyways, I usually eat burgers at McDonald's. I like Double Cheeseburger, Big Mac and Premium Crispy Chicken Classic best.

Re: Burgers

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 1:05 am
by Rayman fan2000
When did this turn from what do you like in your burger to racist/offensive jokes?
Anyway, I just like ketchup or chilli sauce...
Don't judge me.

Re: Burgers

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:08 am
by Hoodcom
Haruka wrote:
technology4617 wrote: It isn't like any Europeans haven't been racist against Americans. (I'm talking to you, Haruka and Rulez. :hehe: )
I might be suffering short memory but can you please explain me what did I do?
I can picture Rulez joking around, given his personality, but I don't think Haruka would ever do something like that. I never seen her do so either.

Re: Burgers

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:50 am
by technology4617
Haruka wrote:I might be suffering short memory but can you please explain me what did I do?
You posted a map for the American's view of Europe. I wasn't really offended, but I was just using you as an example for posting a marginally racist (Adsolution will pick on me for using that word, but I hope you understand what I mean) post that people didn't take offense to.

Granted, 99.9% of the people here are Europeans, so I guess your post was a bit different. :P It's a very minor thing, but I was just using that single post as an example. Sorry to nitpick.
Adsolution wrote:Well, virtually all humour is derived from the idea of degrading something, so every joke is offensive to a massively varying degree. If you take Rulez for instance, his humour is incredibly hard to find offensive most of the time (unless you're really, really new) because it's so ridiculously executed. Obviously there are boundaries ('too soon', etc), but what makes something offensive is moreso the execution than what's being implied.
I wasn't offended by any of his jokes, but, again, I was just using examples for my argument.
OldClassicGamer wrote:LOL, what did I miss here? It's funny in what direction this topic went :P
Anyways, I usually eat burgers at McDonald's. I like Double Cheeseburger, Big Mac and Premium Crispy Chicken Classic best.
You don't eat Kobe beef burgers??? O_O Those are excellent.

Also, you missed annoying comments by >.

Re: Burgers

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:37 am
by Haruka
Oh, that thing. I was only joking kindly, I didn't really mean it to be serious but if it really did offend you then I'm sorry since it was not my intention.

Re: Burgers

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:49 pm
by technology4617
Haruka wrote:Oh, that thing. I was only joking kindly, I didn't really mean it to be serious but if it really did offend you then I'm sorry since it was not my intention.
It didn't offend me, as I knew it was intended for a joke. I actually found it amusing, since some of the stuff on the map is actually the more idiotic Americans (and old people) view Europe. I was using it as an example, because it seemed a lot of people took offense to my joke, which was intended for nothing more for humor as well.

Re: Burgers

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 1:35 am
by neo
Fries. Not that I would eat them. Because then I'd get fatter, when in fact I'm trying to avoid the damn stuff.