Talk:Carnivora - Revision history

Hunchman801 at 12:47, 2 March 2025

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	:The main reason that these names were put here is because other characters use this same criteria for their names (though they are mostly less ambiguous); for example, the Mocking Bird’s name is taken from its [[To Bubblize a Mocking Bird\|boss level]], and the Boss Bird’s name was taken from a Jungle Run wallpaper (which isn’t the best place to get names from, since it turns out that Carnivora was actually called the Boss Plant in its wallpaper, which is about as generic as they come). Granted, they don’t have any other sources for their names, aside from the game files, so it’s passable for them. Anyway, I’m fine with the “alternate names” being removed, but maybe the “Boss Plant” part could go in the Jungle Run section as a “where it is referred to as…” mention? -RayGamer99		:The main reason that these names were put here is because other characters use this same criteria for their names (though they are mostly less ambiguous); for example, the Mocking Bird’s name is taken from its [[To Bubblize a Mocking Bird\|boss level]], and the Boss Bird’s name was taken from a Jungle Run wallpaper (which isn’t the best place to get names from, since it turns out that Carnivora was actually called the Boss Plant in its wallpaper, which is about as generic as they come). Granted, they don’t have any other sources for their names, aside from the game files, so it’s passable for them. Anyway, I’m fine with the “alternate names” being removed, but maybe the “Boss Plant” part could go in the Jungle Run section as a “where it is referred to as…” mention? -RayGamer99

			::You make a good point, and indeed, I wouldn't really consider that "Mocking Bird" is an official name for the character, but rather an inferred name based on the little official material we have. If that boss did have a more official name such as something explicitly referring to it in an image gallery, we probably wouldn't even be listing that name, but that's all we have at this point. As for Carnivora, I agree that "Boss Plant" should be listed, since it explicitly refers to it in the gallery. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 12:47, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

RayGamer99: /* Names */

2025-03-01T12:50:23Z

Names

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	It's not obvious to me that "daisy" and "giant plant" should be listed as alternate names. While they obviously refer to Carnivora, they are used in a descriptive manner (yes, Carnivora ''is'' a daisy and a giant plant) but do not necessarily imply that they are the creature's name. In fact, "daisy" is just a species name and "giant plant" an even broader categorization. It's a bit like saying that Globox's alternate name is Frog because he is at some point referred to as a frog. What do you guys think? —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 11:20, 1 March 2025 (UTC)		It's not obvious to me that "daisy" and "giant plant" should be listed as alternate names. While they obviously refer to Carnivora, they are used in a descriptive manner (yes, Carnivora ''is'' a daisy and a giant plant) but do not necessarily imply that they are the creature's name. In fact, "daisy" is just a species name and "giant plant" an even broader categorization. It's a bit like saying that Globox's alternate name is Frog because he is at some point referred to as a frog. What do you guys think? —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 11:20, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

			:The main reason that these names were put here is because other characters use this same criteria for their names (though they are mostly less ambiguous); for example, the Mocking Bird’s name is taken from its [[To Bubblize a Mocking Bird\|boss level]], and the Boss Bird’s name was taken from a Jungle Run wallpaper (which isn’t the best place to get names from, since it turns out that Carnivora was actually called the Boss Plant in its wallpaper, which is about as generic as they come). Granted, they don’t have any other sources for their names, aside from the game files, so it’s passable for them. Anyway, I’m fine with the “alternate names” being removed, but maybe the “Boss Plant” part could go in the Jungle Run section as a “where it is referred to as…” mention? -RayGamer99

Hunchman801: /* Names */ new section

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Names: new section

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	:::::It seems right to me. 😉 [[User:Alltech\|Alltech]] ([[User talk:Alltech\|talk]]) 04:27, 14 June 2020 (CEST)		:::::It seems right to me. 😉 [[User:Alltech\|Alltech]] ([[User talk:Alltech\|talk]]) 04:27, 14 June 2020 (CEST)
	::::::The original author of the French page (Harpic fraîcheur) never provided any source for Carnivora's gender. I think 'unknown' is safer for now. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 16:40, 16 June 2020 (CEST)		::::::The original author of the French page (Harpic fraîcheur) never provided any source for Carnivora's gender. I think 'unknown' is safer for now. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 16:40, 16 June 2020 (CEST)

			== Names ==

			It's not obvious to me that "daisy" and "giant plant" should be listed as alternate names. While they obviously refer to Carnivora, they are used in a descriptive manner (yes, Carnivora ''is'' a daisy and a giant plant) but do not necessarily imply that they are the creature's name. In fact, "daisy" is just a species name and "giant plant" an even broader categorization. It's a bit like saying that Globox's alternate name is Frog because he is at some point referred to as a frog. What do you guys think? —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 11:20, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

Hunchman801 at 14:40, 16 June 2020

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	::::I changed it to female for now since the French side claims this, and it's more likely considering "Daisy" as mentioned above. However, if this seems incorrect, we can change the gender to unknown, and I can change all corresponding mentions of it to gender neutral ones. It's worth noting that [[Poor Little Daisy]] said both him and her, so the article contradicted itself anyway. --[[File:Steo_sig.png\|60px\|link=User:Steo]] 22:46, 13 June 2020 (CEST)		::::I changed it to female for now since the French side claims this, and it's more likely considering "Daisy" as mentioned above. However, if this seems incorrect, we can change the gender to unknown, and I can change all corresponding mentions of it to gender neutral ones. It's worth noting that [[Poor Little Daisy]] said both him and her, so the article contradicted itself anyway. --[[File:Steo_sig.png\|60px\|link=User:Steo]] 22:46, 13 June 2020 (CEST)
	:::::It seems right to me. 😉 [[User:Alltech\|Alltech]] ([[User talk:Alltech\|talk]]) 04:27, 14 June 2020 (CEST)		:::::It seems right to me. 😉 [[User:Alltech\|Alltech]] ([[User talk:Alltech\|talk]]) 04:27, 14 June 2020 (CEST)
			::::::The original author of the French page (Harpic fraîcheur) never provided any source for Carnivora's gender. I think 'unknown' is safer for now. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 16:40, 16 June 2020 (CEST)

Alltech at 02:28, 14 June 2020

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	:::In the absence of any further clues, I think it might be best to list her gender as 'unknown' on all wikis. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 12:02, 19 March 2020 (CET)		:::In the absence of any further clues, I think it might be best to list her gender as 'unknown' on all wikis. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 12:02, 19 March 2020 (CET)
	::::I changed it to female for now since the French side claims this, and it's more likely considering "Daisy" as mentioned above. However, if this seems incorrect, we can change the gender to unknown, and I can change all corresponding mentions of it to gender neutral ones. It's worth noting that [[Poor Little Daisy]] said both him and her, so the article contradicted itself anyway. --[[File:Steo_sig.png\|60px\|link=User:Steo]] 22:46, 13 June 2020 (CEST)		::::I changed it to female for now since the French side claims this, and it's more likely considering "Daisy" as mentioned above. However, if this seems incorrect, we can change the gender to unknown, and I can change all corresponding mentions of it to gender neutral ones. It's worth noting that [[Poor Little Daisy]] said both him and her, so the article contradicted itself anyway. --[[File:Steo_sig.png\|60px\|link=User:Steo]] 22:46, 13 June 2020 (CEST)
			:::::It seems right to me. 😉 [[User:Alltech\|Alltech]] ([[User talk:Alltech\|talk]]) 04:27, 14 June 2020 (CEST)

Steo at 20:47, 13 June 2020

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	::It's possible that there are queens among the Four Kings. For reminder, the Mocking Bird is a female. But we have a good argument for this boss, since she lays eggs. --[[User:Boomboleros7\|Boomboleros7]] 00:16, 19 March 2020 (CET)		::It's possible that there are queens among the Four Kings. For reminder, the Mocking Bird is a female. But we have a good argument for this boss, since she lays eggs. --[[User:Boomboleros7\|Boomboleros7]] 00:16, 19 March 2020 (CET)
	:::In the absence of any further clues, I think it might be best to list her gender as 'unknown' on all wikis. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 12:02, 19 March 2020 (CET)		:::In the absence of any further clues, I think it might be best to list her gender as 'unknown' on all wikis. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 12:02, 19 March 2020 (CET)
			::::I changed it to female for now since the French side claims this, and it's more likely considering "Daisy" as mentioned above. However, if this seems incorrect, we can change the gender to unknown, and I can change all corresponding mentions of it to gender neutral ones. It's worth noting that [[Poor Little Daisy]] said both him and her, so the article contradicted itself anyway. --[[File:Steo_sig.png\|60px\|link=User:Steo]] 22:46, 13 June 2020 (CEST)

Hunchman801 at 11:02, 19 March 2020

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	::But is that enough?		::But is that enough?
	::It's possible that there are queens among the Four Kings. For reminder, the Mocking Bird is a female. But we have a good argument for this boss, since she lays eggs. --[[User:Boomboleros7\|Boomboleros7]] 00:16, 19 March 2020 (CET)		::It's possible that there are queens among the Four Kings. For reminder, the Mocking Bird is a female. But we have a good argument for this boss, since she lays eggs. --[[User:Boomboleros7\|Boomboleros7]] 00:16, 19 March 2020 (CET)
			:::In the absence of any further clues, I think it might be best to list her gender as 'unknown' on all wikis. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 12:02, 19 March 2020 (CET)

Boomboleros7 at 23:16, 18 March 2020

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	I noticed that the gender was changed from female to male. Is there any evidence supporting either claim? --[[File:Carrot signature.png\|75px\|link=User:Carrot-master]] 21:24, 26 February 2018 (UTC)		I noticed that the gender was changed from female to male. Is there any evidence supporting either claim? --[[File:Carrot signature.png\|75px\|link=User:Carrot-master]] 21:24, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
	:The French and Spanish wikis have it listed as female, though I'm not sure what the arguments are in favor of one or the other. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 16:27, 18 March 2020 (CET)		:The French and Spanish wikis have it listed as female, though I'm not sure what the arguments are in favor of one or the other. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 16:27, 18 March 2020 (CET)
			::Carnivora (formerly Daisy) is considered as a female since the creation of the French page (not by me).
			::If I remember correctly the discussion on the French wiki about the Four Kings, that's because Carnivora is a flower, and "Carnivora" sounds like a girl name (and "Daisy" is a girl name).
			::But is that enough?
			::It's possible that there are queens among the Four Kings. For reminder, the Mocking Bird is a female. But we have a good argument for this boss, since she lays eggs. --[[User:Boomboleros7\|Boomboleros7]] 00:16, 19 March 2020 (CET)

Hunchman801 at 15:27, 18 March 2020

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	== Gender? ==		== Gender? ==
	I noticed that the gender was changed from female to male. Is there any evidence supporting either claim? --[[File:Carrot signature.png\|75px\|link=User:Carrot-master]] 21:24, 26 February 2018 (UTC)		I noticed that the gender was changed from female to male. Is there any evidence supporting either claim? --[[File:Carrot signature.png\|75px\|link=User:Carrot-master]] 21:24, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
			:The French and Spanish wikis have it listed as female, though I'm not sure what the arguments are in favor of one or the other. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 16:27, 18 March 2020 (CET)

RayCarrot: Created page with "== Gender? == I noticed that the gender was changed from female to male. Is there any evidence supporting either claim? --~~~~"

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Created page with "== Gender? == I noticed that the gender was changed from female to male. Is there any evidence supporting either claim? --~~~~"

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== Gender? ==
I noticed that the gender was changed from female to male. Is there any evidence supporting either claim? --[[File:Carrot signature.png|75px|link=User:Carrot-master]] 21:24, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

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	::::I changed it to female for now since the French side claims this, and it's more likely considering "Daisy" as mentioned above. However, if this seems incorrect, we can change the gender to unknown, and I can change all corresponding mentions of it to gender neutral ones. It's worth noting that [[Poor Little Daisy]] said both him and her, so the article contradicted itself anyway. --[[File:Steo_sig.png\|60px\|link=User:Steo]] 22:46, 13 June 2020 (CEST)		::::I changed it to female for now since the French side claims this, and it's more likely considering "Daisy" as mentioned above. However, if this seems incorrect, we can change the gender to unknown, and I can change all corresponding mentions of it to gender neutral ones. It's worth noting that [[Poor Little Daisy]] said both him and her, so the article contradicted itself anyway. --[[File:Steo_sig.png\|60px\|link=User:Steo]] 22:46, 13 June 2020 (CEST)
	:::::It seems right to me. 😉 [[User:Alltech\|Alltech]] ([[User talk:Alltech\|talk]]) 04:27, 14 June 2020 (CEST)		:::::It seems right to me. 😉 [[User:Alltech\|Alltech]] ([[User talk:Alltech\|talk]]) 04:27, 14 June 2020 (CEST)
			::::::The original author of the French page (Harpic fraîcheur) never provided any source for Carnivora's gender. I think 'unknown' is safer for now. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 16:40, 16 June 2020 (CEST)

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	:::In the absence of any further clues, I think it might be best to list her gender as 'unknown' on all wikis. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 12:02, 19 March 2020 (CET)		:::In the absence of any further clues, I think it might be best to list her gender as 'unknown' on all wikis. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 12:02, 19 March 2020 (CET)
	::::I changed it to female for now since the French side claims this, and it's more likely considering "Daisy" as mentioned above. However, if this seems incorrect, we can change the gender to unknown, and I can change all corresponding mentions of it to gender neutral ones. It's worth noting that [[Poor Little Daisy]] said both him and her, so the article contradicted itself anyway. --[[File:Steo_sig.png\|60px\|link=User:Steo]] 22:46, 13 June 2020 (CEST)		::::I changed it to female for now since the French side claims this, and it's more likely considering "Daisy" as mentioned above. However, if this seems incorrect, we can change the gender to unknown, and I can change all corresponding mentions of it to gender neutral ones. It's worth noting that [[Poor Little Daisy]] said both him and her, so the article contradicted itself anyway. --[[File:Steo_sig.png\|60px\|link=User:Steo]] 22:46, 13 June 2020 (CEST)
			:::::It seems right to me. 😉 [[User:Alltech\|Alltech]] ([[User talk:Alltech\|talk]]) 04:27, 14 June 2020 (CEST)

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	::It's possible that there are queens among the Four Kings. For reminder, the Mocking Bird is a female. But we have a good argument for this boss, since she lays eggs. --[[User:Boomboleros7\|Boomboleros7]] 00:16, 19 March 2020 (CET)		::It's possible that there are queens among the Four Kings. For reminder, the Mocking Bird is a female. But we have a good argument for this boss, since she lays eggs. --[[User:Boomboleros7\|Boomboleros7]] 00:16, 19 March 2020 (CET)
	:::In the absence of any further clues, I think it might be best to list her gender as 'unknown' on all wikis. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 12:02, 19 March 2020 (CET)		:::In the absence of any further clues, I think it might be best to list her gender as 'unknown' on all wikis. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|class=sprite\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 12:02, 19 March 2020 (CET)
			::::I changed it to female for now since the French side claims this, and it's more likely considering "Daisy" as mentioned above. However, if this seems incorrect, we can change the gender to unknown, and I can change all corresponding mentions of it to gender neutral ones. It's worth noting that [[Poor Little Daisy]] said both him and her, so the article contradicted itself anyway. --[[File:Steo_sig.png\|60px\|link=User:Steo]] 22:46, 13 June 2020 (CEST)