Talk:Rayman Origins - Revision history

Mdalsted at 06:41, 23 January 2015

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	:If that's not enough, I've compiled a more comprehensive list of evidence [http://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=636369#p636369 here]. I must warn you: it's very long. —[[User:Spiraldoor\|Spiraldoor]] [[File:IconSpiralDoor.png\|link=User:Spiraldoor]] 18:28, 23 May 2012 (CEST)		:If that's not enough, I've compiled a more comprehensive list of evidence [http://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=636369#p636369 here]. I must warn you: it's very long. —[[User:Spiraldoor\|Spiraldoor]] [[File:IconSpiralDoor.png\|link=User:Spiraldoor]] 18:28, 23 May 2012 (CEST)
	:Its already said. The game transformed into a sequel at the very last hour of development. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka\|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 20:40, 23 May 2012 (CEST)		:Its already said. The game transformed into a sequel at the very last hour of development. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka\|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 20:40, 23 May 2012 (CEST)
			:I, for one, have been aware for a long time that Origins is a sequel and not a prequel, but something is bothering me; I've heard Origins is a sequel to Rayman 2, but the wiki page says it's a sequel to "the first THREE Rayman games". Wouldn't that mean it's a sequel to Rayman 3, then, or am I forgetting about a handheld title or something? Thank you for clearing this issue up, —[[User:mdalsted\|mdalsted]] 12:42 AM (CST), 23 January 2015 (I apologize sincerely if I'm doing this signature thing wrong.)

Haruka: /* Wait, it's a SEQUEL?! */

2012-05-23T18:40:44Z

Wait, it's a SEQUEL?!

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	:The developers basically decided to rework the game and make it a sequel, perhaps because they didn't want to have to worry about continuity errors or feel that they had to structure the game so that it fit with the backstory established in the others. For example, the Magician's betrayal would be impossible in a prequel. You'll notice that the scenes that made us think it was a prequel in the first place (like the creation of Rayman by Betilla, and the first meeting of Rayman and Globox) are not present in the final game. The developers never actually used the word 'prequel'; they've always told us that the title refers to the fact that the game is meant to be a return to the 'roots' or 'origins' of the series (by which they mean the gameplay and visual style of the original game).		:The developers basically decided to rework the game and make it a sequel, perhaps because they didn't want to have to worry about continuity errors or feel that they had to structure the game so that it fit with the backstory established in the others. For example, the Magician's betrayal would be impossible in a prequel. You'll notice that the scenes that made us think it was a prequel in the first place (like the creation of Rayman by Betilla, and the first meeting of Rayman and Globox) are not present in the final game. The developers never actually used the word 'prequel'; they've always told us that the title refers to the fact that the game is meant to be a return to the 'roots' or 'origins' of the series (by which they mean the gameplay and visual style of the original game).
	:If that's not enough, I've compiled a more comprehensive list of evidence [http://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=636369#p636369 here]. I must warn you: it's very long. —[[User:Spiraldoor\|Spiraldoor]] [[File:IconSpiralDoor.png\|link=User:Spiraldoor]] 18:28, 23 May 2012 (CEST)		:If that's not enough, I've compiled a more comprehensive list of evidence [http://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=636369#p636369 here]. I must warn you: it's very long. —[[User:Spiraldoor\|Spiraldoor]] [[File:IconSpiralDoor.png\|link=User:Spiraldoor]] 18:28, 23 May 2012 (CEST)
			:Its already said. The game transformed into a sequel at the very last hour of development. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka\|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 20:40, 23 May 2012 (CEST)

Spiraldoor: /* Wait, it's a SEQUEL?! */

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Wait, it's a SEQUEL?!

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	''"Despite its title, it is not a prequel, but a sequel to the first three Rayman games."'' WHAT? Since WHEN it's a sequel?! I can clearly remember official information saying that it's a prequel! - [[User:Zutheskunk\|Zutheskunk]] 12:01, 23 May 2012 (CEST)		''"Despite its title, it is not a prequel, but a sequel to the first three Rayman games."'' WHAT? Since WHEN it's a sequel?! I can clearly remember official information saying that it's a prequel! - [[User:Zutheskunk\|Zutheskunk]] 12:01, 23 May 2012 (CEST)

	It was changed to a sequel when the game was turned into a full retail title. There are no origins or young rayman, it's just a regular adventure with rayman and his friends.--[[User:Sergiomonty\|Sergiomonty]] 15:40, 23 May 2012 (CEST)		:It was changed to a sequel when the game was turned into a full retail title. There are no origins or young rayman, it's just a regular adventure with rayman and his friends.--[[User:Sergiomonty\|Sergiomonty]] 15:40, 23 May 2012 (CEST)

			:I'm really surprised that you weren't aware of this until now; it's been common knowledge since late last year! The game is an unambiguous sequel. This should be proof enough:
			:*In R1, Rayman meets Betilla for the first time, and Mr Dark creates Bad Rayman.
			:*In R2, Rayman meets Murfy, the Grand Minimus and Polokus for the first time.
			:*In Origins, it's clear that Rayman has already met Betilla, Murfy, the Grand Minimus and Polokus. He's sleeping with several of them at the beginning of the game! Dark Rayman's appearance wouldn't make sense if he hadn't already been created by Mr Dark – and this connection to Mr Dark shouldn't be taken lightly, as Polokus actually talks about it when you pull on his beard.
			:The developers basically decided to rework the game and make it a sequel, perhaps because they didn't want to have to worry about continuity errors or feel that they had to structure the game so that it fit with the backstory established in the others. For example, the Magician's betrayal would be impossible in a prequel. You'll notice that the scenes that made us think it was a prequel in the first place (like the creation of Rayman by Betilla, and the first meeting of Rayman and Globox) are not present in the final game. The developers never actually used the word 'prequel'; they've always told us that the title refers to the fact that the game is meant to be a return to the 'roots' or 'origins' of the series (by which they mean the gameplay and visual style of the original game).
			:If that's not enough, I've compiled a more comprehensive list of evidence [http://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=636369#p636369 here]. I must warn you: it's very long. —[[User:Spiraldoor\|Spiraldoor]] [[File:IconSpiralDoor.png\|link=User:Spiraldoor]] 18:28, 23 May 2012 (CEST)

Sergiomonty: /* Wait, it's a SEQUEL?! */

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	''"Despite its title, it is not a prequel, but a sequel to the first three Rayman games."'' WHAT? Since WHEN it's a sequel?! I can clearly remember official information saying that it's a prequel! - [[User:Zutheskunk\|Zutheskunk]] 12:01, 23 May 2012 (CEST)		''"Despite its title, it is not a prequel, but a sequel to the first three Rayman games."'' WHAT? Since WHEN it's a sequel?! I can clearly remember official information saying that it's a prequel! - [[User:Zutheskunk\|Zutheskunk]] 12:01, 23 May 2012 (CEST)

			It was changed to a sequel when the game was turned into a full retail title. There are no origins or young rayman, it's just a regular adventure with rayman and his friends.--[[User:Sergiomonty\|Sergiomonty]] 15:40, 23 May 2012 (CEST)

ZuTheSkunk: /* Wait, it's a SEQUEL?! */ new section

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	When editing Rayman Origins level articles would it be better to refer some of the enemies like '''Antitoons''' by their Origins name '''Darktoons''' or what? --[[User:Teensiedragonkaiser\|Teensiedragonkaiser]] 04:40, 14 March 2012 (CET)		When editing Rayman Origins level articles would it be better to refer some of the enemies like '''Antitoons''' by their Origins name '''Darktoons''' or what? --[[User:Teensiedragonkaiser\|Teensiedragonkaiser]] 04:40, 14 March 2012 (CET)
	:When referring to Rayman Origins, it is best to use the latest names, e.g. Darktoons. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 12:22, 14 March 2012 (CET)		:When referring to Rayman Origins, it is best to use the latest names, e.g. Darktoons. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 12:22, 14 March 2012 (CET)

			== Wait, it's a SEQUEL?! ==

			''"Despite its title, it is not a prequel, but a sequel to the first three Rayman games."'' WHAT? Since WHEN it's a sequel?! I can clearly remember official information saying that it's a prequel! - [[User:Zutheskunk\|Zutheskunk]] 12:01, 23 May 2012 (CEST)

Hunchman801 at 11:22, 14 March 2012

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	When editing Rayman Origins level articles would it be better to refer some of the enemies like '''Antitoons''' by their Origins name '''Darktoons''' or what? --[[User:Teensiedragonkaiser\|Teensiedragonkaiser]] 04:40, 14 March 2012 (CET)		When editing Rayman Origins level articles would it be better to refer some of the enemies like '''Antitoons''' by their Origins name '''Darktoons''' or what? --[[User:Teensiedragonkaiser\|Teensiedragonkaiser]] 04:40, 14 March 2012 (CET)
			:When referring to Rayman Origins, it is best to use the latest names, e.g. Darktoons. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 12:22, 14 March 2012 (CET)

TeensieDragonKaiser: /* Enemy names */ new section

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Enemy names: new section

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	:I think the worlds should be integrated in the main ones, separated by titles and bars (sections). The "second worlds" names could be redirected to those sections. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka\|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 19:42, 15 December 2011 (UTC)		:I think the worlds should be integrated in the main ones, separated by titles and bars (sections). The "second worlds" names could be redirected to those sections. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka\|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 19:42, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
	::Done. All comments welcome. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 17:27, 2 January 2012 (UTC)		::Done. All comments welcome. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 17:27, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

			== Enemy names ==

			When editing Rayman Origins level articles would it be better to refer some of the enemies like '''Antitoons''' by their Origins name '''Darktoons''' or what? --[[User:Teensiedragonkaiser\|Teensiedragonkaiser]] 04:40, 14 March 2012 (CET)

Hunchman801 at 17:27, 2 January 2012

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	We have a substantial problem as concerns the worlds in Rayman Origins: Ticklish Temples, Grumbling Grottos, Luscious Lakes and Angsty Abyss are basically the very same places as Jibberish Jungle, Desert of Dijiridoos, Gourmand Land and Sea of Serendipity, respectively (Moody Clouds seems quite different from Mystical Pique though). Just like we have awesome articles describing the worlds from the original game, it would be great to do the same for Rayman Origins, but the fact that some worlds are actually split in two makes the whole thing harder. Should we have only one article for each pair? Or should we have the same article (almost) twice? Any other ideas in mind? —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 00:27, 15 December 2011 (UTC)		We have a substantial problem as concerns the worlds in Rayman Origins: Ticklish Temples, Grumbling Grottos, Luscious Lakes and Angsty Abyss are basically the very same places as Jibberish Jungle, Desert of Dijiridoos, Gourmand Land and Sea of Serendipity, respectively (Moody Clouds seems quite different from Mystical Pique though). Just like we have awesome articles describing the worlds from the original game, it would be great to do the same for Rayman Origins, but the fact that some worlds are actually split in two makes the whole thing harder. Should we have only one article for each pair? Or should we have the same article (almost) twice? Any other ideas in mind? —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 00:27, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
	:I think the worlds should be integrated in the main ones, separated by titles and bars (sections). The "second worlds" names could be redirected to those sections. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka\|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 19:42, 15 December 2011 (UTC)		:I think the worlds should be integrated in the main ones, separated by titles and bars (sections). The "second worlds" names could be redirected to those sections. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka\|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 19:42, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
			::Done. All comments welcome. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 17:27, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Haruka: /* Worlds */

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Worlds

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	We have a substantial problem as concerns the worlds in Rayman Origins: Ticklish Temples, Grumbling Grottos, Luscious Lakes and Angsty Abyss are basically the very same places as Jibberish Jungle, Desert of Dijiridoos, Gourmand Land and Sea of Serendipity, respectively (Moody Clouds seems quite different from Mystical Pique though). Just like we have awesome articles describing the worlds from the original game, it would be great to do the same for Rayman Origins, but the fact that some worlds are actually split in two makes the whole thing harder. Should we have only one article for each pair? Or should we have the same article (almost) twice? Any other ideas in mind? —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 00:27, 15 December 2011 (UTC)		We have a substantial problem as concerns the worlds in Rayman Origins: Ticklish Temples, Grumbling Grottos, Luscious Lakes and Angsty Abyss are basically the very same places as Jibberish Jungle, Desert of Dijiridoos, Gourmand Land and Sea of Serendipity, respectively (Moody Clouds seems quite different from Mystical Pique though). Just like we have awesome articles describing the worlds from the original game, it would be great to do the same for Rayman Origins, but the fact that some worlds are actually split in two makes the whole thing harder. Should we have only one article for each pair? Or should we have the same article (almost) twice? Any other ideas in mind? —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 00:27, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
			:I think the worlds should be integrated in the main ones, separated by titles and bars (sections). The "second worlds" names could be redirected to those sections. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka\|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 19:42, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Hunchman801: /* Worlds */ new section

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Worlds: new section

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	:I actually think Stacey should add all she knows to the article. It doesn't matter if it's changed by the time the game is released; the more (accurate) information the better. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 11:18, 27 September 2011 (UTC)		:I actually think Stacey should add all she knows to the article. It doesn't matter if it's changed by the time the game is released; the more (accurate) information the better. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 11:18, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
	:: The info I did know is only from the E3 build but haha OK. I'll see what the build they have at MCM expo is like, provided it crashes lol. --[[User:Cairnie\|Cairnie]] 14:48, 27 September 2011 (UTC)		:: The info I did know is only from the E3 build but haha OK. I'll see what the build they have at MCM expo is like, provided it crashes lol. --[[User:Cairnie\|Cairnie]] 14:48, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

			== Worlds ==

			Hi all!

			We have a substantial problem as concerns the worlds in Rayman Origins: Ticklish Temples, Grumbling Grottos, Luscious Lakes and Angsty Abyss are basically the very same places as Jibberish Jungle, Desert of Dijiridoos, Gourmand Land and Sea of Serendipity, respectively (Moody Clouds seems quite different from Mystical Pique though). Just like we have awesome articles describing the worlds from the original game, it would be great to do the same for Rayman Origins, but the fact that some worlds are actually split in two makes the whole thing harder. Should we have only one article for each pair? Or should we have the same article (almost) twice? Any other ideas in mind? —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 00:27, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

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	:If that's not enough, I've compiled a more comprehensive list of evidence [http://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=636369#p636369 here]. I must warn you: it's very long. —[[User:Spiraldoor\|Spiraldoor]] [[File:IconSpiralDoor.png\|link=User:Spiraldoor]] 18:28, 23 May 2012 (CEST)		:If that's not enough, I've compiled a more comprehensive list of evidence [http://raymanpc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=636369#p636369 here]. I must warn you: it's very long. —[[User:Spiraldoor\|Spiraldoor]] [[File:IconSpiralDoor.png\|link=User:Spiraldoor]] 18:28, 23 May 2012 (CEST)
	:Its already said. The game transformed into a sequel at the very last hour of development. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka\|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 20:40, 23 May 2012 (CEST)		:Its already said. The game transformed into a sequel at the very last hour of development. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka\|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 20:40, 23 May 2012 (CEST)
			:I, for one, have been aware for a long time that Origins is a sequel and not a prequel, but something is bothering me; I've heard Origins is a sequel to Rayman 2, but the wiki page says it's a sequel to "the first THREE Rayman games". Wouldn't that mean it's a sequel to Rayman 3, then, or am I forgetting about a handheld title or something? Thank you for clearing this issue up, —[[User:mdalsted\|mdalsted]] 12:42 AM (CST), 23 January 2015 (I apologize sincerely if I'm doing this signature thing wrong.)

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	We have a substantial problem as concerns the worlds in Rayman Origins: Ticklish Temples, Grumbling Grottos, Luscious Lakes and Angsty Abyss are basically the very same places as Jibberish Jungle, Desert of Dijiridoos, Gourmand Land and Sea of Serendipity, respectively (Moody Clouds seems quite different from Mystical Pique though). Just like we have awesome articles describing the worlds from the original game, it would be great to do the same for Rayman Origins, but the fact that some worlds are actually split in two makes the whole thing harder. Should we have only one article for each pair? Or should we have the same article (almost) twice? Any other ideas in mind? —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 00:27, 15 December 2011 (UTC)		We have a substantial problem as concerns the worlds in Rayman Origins: Ticklish Temples, Grumbling Grottos, Luscious Lakes and Angsty Abyss are basically the very same places as Jibberish Jungle, Desert of Dijiridoos, Gourmand Land and Sea of Serendipity, respectively (Moody Clouds seems quite different from Mystical Pique though). Just like we have awesome articles describing the worlds from the original game, it would be great to do the same for Rayman Origins, but the fact that some worlds are actually split in two makes the whole thing harder. Should we have only one article for each pair? Or should we have the same article (almost) twice? Any other ideas in mind? —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 00:27, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
	:I think the worlds should be integrated in the main ones, separated by titles and bars (sections). The "second worlds" names could be redirected to those sections. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka\|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 19:42, 15 December 2011 (UTC)		:I think the worlds should be integrated in the main ones, separated by titles and bars (sections). The "second worlds" names could be redirected to those sections. --[[Image:Sparkle.gif]][[User:Haruka\|Haruka]][[Image:Sparkle.gif]] 19:42, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
			::Done. All comments welcome. —[[File:RRRGBAIcon8.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon0.gif\|link=User:Hunchman801]][[File:RRRGBAIcon1.png\|link=User:Hunchman801]] 17:27, 2 January 2012 (UTC)