Rayman himself

Sabertooth · Post by **Sabertooth** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:41 am

If there's one good thing Legends contributed to the lore of the series, it's the whole "everybody is actually hundreds of years old" implication. It adds to the timelessness of the universe, but perhaps best of all, we now have no more debates regarding Rayman's age. Is he 13? 16? 18? 21? Nope, he's centuries old!

YouTube · Post by **PluMGMK** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:28 am

He spent one of those centuries in some kind of enchanted super-sleep though.

SpyroGuy · Post by **SpyroGuy** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:50 pm

Sabertooth1000000000 wrote:If there's one good thing Legends contributed to the lore of the series, it's the whole "everybody is actually hundreds of years old" implication. It adds to the timelessness of the universe, but perhaps best of all, we now have no more debates regarding Rayman's age. Is he 13? 16? 18? 21? Nope, he's centuries old!

Tell me about it. I find debates like this quite pointless, tbh. With this logic, Mickey Mouse is 87 years old. Characters like him are timeless/ageless, yet Rayman shows all of them a middle finger because he's not only multiple centuries old, he's also bald (sort of, kind of, not really). xD

OCG · Post by **OCG** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 5:36 pm

Well, to be honest, before Rayman Legends, Rayman was getting older throughout the games. If you pay attention on first 3 games, you can see how he grows from being a child to being a teen. But now that we have Legends, we no longer have to talk about his age

Keane · Post by **Keane** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:58 am

How does RayWiki treat whatever is considered canon? Because you could then argue that there'd have to be a gap of entire centuries between 1 and Origins, but on the other hand, I don't think Origins/Legends can really be counted as "sequels", rather just part of the main line of games. It's not doing a poor job at giving any depth to the Glade, it's simply treating it like a Mushroom Kingdom type world and not acknowledging the trilogy.

Rayman 3 more or less dropped most of what was build up during the Rayman 2 era, but it did still connect itself with the game and, to an extent, what was established as the Glade. Origins doesn't deny the existence of the previous installments, but it also doesn't do much more than just taking elements of those games and redesigning them for a new start for Rayman. I'm pretty sure that when Origins became its final product, developers purposely cut connections to the trilogy in the hopes of potentially turning Rayman into a very free to work character like Mario.

TL;DR, is Origins considered an official sequel to Rayman 3? And how are inconsistencies with the trilogy treated?

Bradandez · Post by **Bradandez** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:20 am

Man, we've been over this and over this.

Rayfist · Post by **Rayfist** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:23 am

Some people I think crave to deep into the lore in a way that wasn't exactly intended for such debate.

Rayman's story is no Metal Gear, it's very straight forward, and the "timelessness" that Saber mentioned is to make Rayman a very "Free to work" character as Keane stated. I do agree with the both of them. It will expand the Rayman universe without having any "End" to it (Course game series never go on forever, but you get what I mean)

Master · Post by **Master** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:13 am

On the broad scale, all games are part of one extremely inconsistent continuity, we try to take things at face value.

Shrooblord · Post by **Shrooblord** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:19 pm

At least it's not Zelda.

Master · Post by **Master** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:27 pm

True, we're still able to place them in one timeline.

YouTube · Post by **PluMGMK** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:31 pm

TBH I don't see how the heroes' being in suspended animation for one particular century (after defeating a guy who was trying to reorder the whole universe) creates a sense of timelessness for the whole series.

SpyroGuy · Post by **SpyroGuy** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:31 pm

Indeed and all the sleeping stuff actually makes sense and could be used as a potential hook to bring Rayman 2 and 3 together with the help of the recent titles. The opening cutscene of R3, anyone?

YouTube · Post by **PluMGMK** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:33 pm

Hang on, if I remember Legends' opening cutscene correctly, century-long sleep is NOT normal. I recall a simile suggesting that.

Bradandez · Post by **Bradandez** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:34 pm

They were under a mysterious snoozing spell...

Or perhaps they just needed a big nap.

Master · Post by **Master** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:36 pm

Well, let's take a look then:

BD mentions them being under the influence of a "mysterious snoozing power," kinda vague, but you've got a point. The line after is a bit hard to make out, but it does sound like the alternative that Brad's stated above. I think he said, "Or my little ones just needed to take a big nap."

Bradandez · Post by **Bradandez** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:43 pm

Does that mean I'm right?

YouTube · Post by **PluMGMK** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:44 pm

Of course it does!
But even if it is just a big nap, Polokus' words still strongly suggest that it's abnormal.

Bradandez · Post by **Bradandez** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:45 pm

Explain plz.

YouTube · Post by **PluMGMK** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:46 pm

Would he say it was "mysterious" if the heroes took century-long naps all the time?

Master · Post by **Master** » Sun Mar 08, 2015 1:47 pm

Hmm, the issue here is that it's pretty vague, and more there just to set things up. It could very well be one way or the other.

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