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Re: I want a new 2D Rayman with the same game design as Rayman 1

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Drolpiraat wrote:I never really liked any of the Rayman villains to be honest. They always kept their distance until the end (apart from André who was comic relief during the time he was forced to spend with Globox and Rayman). The magician in RO would have been pretty nice if they had kept the original script though.

The only good villain scene was from Rayman 2, where Razorbeard dreams of what he'll do with Rayman using the Grolgoth. We need more villains that show how evil they are and communicate with the player.
I actually think Razorbeard was the most menacing of them all with his huge army and ship and animated cutscenes that he had on his chair that showed he's above all
the magician was pretty weak tbh even though I liked his betrayel in the end he was much weaker comparing him to all the other villans, Andre was also a pretty good villan but nothing compared to razorbeard and Mr Dark was pretty flat in my opinion.
Bradandez wrote:Oh yeah, that part were he imagined killing Rayman was cool.

Also, all of the villains were cowards who ran away when they were confronted by Rayman.
That's kinda true.
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Razorbear was not menacing at all. I laugh at how pathetic he was.
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Greeness wrote:I actually think Razorbeard was the most menacing of them all with his huge army and ship and animated cutscenes that he had on his chair that showed he's above all
the magician was pretty weak tbh even though I liked his betrayel in the end he was much weaker comparing him to all the other villans, Andre was also a pretty good villan but nothing compared to razorbeard and Mr Dark was pretty flat in my opinion.
That could have been pretty menacing, but they didn't execute it very well. Razorbeard never talked to Rayman until the very end. I still think it would be cool if they had somehow included the rest of the resistance scenes, like the prologue mentioned in the manual where Rayman gets caught and has a short conversation with Razorbeard, or the battle on one of the ships with Ly.

The magician's portrayal in RO was very weak, but if had a proper boss fight and if they had continued to use the original script it would've been better. And it would have been even better if he had looked the same way as he did in R1, and if he had been the actual Mr Dark from back then.
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Drolpiraat wrote:
Greeness wrote:I actually think Razorbeard was the most menacing of them all with his huge army and ship and animated cutscenes that he had on his chair that showed he's above all
the magician was pretty weak tbh even though I liked his betrayel in the end he was much weaker comparing him to all the other villans, Andre was also a pretty good villan but nothing compared to razorbeard and Mr Dark was pretty flat in my opinion.
That could have been pretty menacing, but they didn't execute it very well. Razorbeard never talked to Rayman until the very end. I still think it would be cool if they had somehow included the rest of the resistance scenes, like the prologue mentioned in the manual where Rayman gets caught and has a short conversation with Razorbeard, or the battle on one of the ships with Ly.

The magician's portrayal in RO was very weak, but if had a proper boss fight and if they had continued to use the original script it would've been better. And it would have been even better if he had looked the same way as he did in R1, and if he had been the actual Mr Dark from back then.
Yeah I didn't get why they decided to teesiefie all the old Rayman characters probably to fit them more to the universe
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Drolpiraat wrote:
Greeness wrote:I actually think Razorbeard was the most menacing of them all with his huge army and ship and animated cutscenes that he had on his chair that showed he's above all
the magician was pretty weak tbh even though I liked his betrayel in the end he was much weaker comparing him to all the other villans, Andre was also a pretty good villan but nothing compared to razorbeard and Mr Dark was pretty flat in my opinion.
That could have been pretty menacing, but they didn't execute it very well. Razorbeard never talked to Rayman until the very end. I still think it would be cool if they had somehow included the rest of the resistance scenes, like the prologue mentioned in the manual where Rayman gets caught and has a short conversation with Razorbeard, or the battle on one of the ships with Ly.

The magician's portrayal in RO was very weak, but if had a proper boss fight and if they had continued to use the original script it would've been better. And it would have been even better if he had looked the same way as he did in R1, and if he had been the actual Mr Dark from back then.
Yeah I didn't get why they decided to teesiefie all the old Rayman characters...(other then Betilla) probably to fit them more to the universe
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Andre was flat compared to Mr. Dark!?

MR. DARK IS THE MOST GENERIC VILLAIN EVER. FROM HIS NAME TO HIS DESIGN. WHAT THE FUCK!?
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tf why did the messege get sent twice
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I wish they did the magician twist at the end of rayman 1
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Ales Mansay will always be the most interesting villain. At least he has backstory.
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Indeed
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Bradandez wrote:Andre was flat compared to Mr. Dark!?

MR. DARK IS THE MOST GENERIC VILLAIN EVER. FROM HIS NAME TO HIS DESIGN. WHAT THE FUCK!?
André was comic relief (and he was terrible at it). That's kind of worse.
But I agree about Mr Dark. It would have been nice if we actually found out during the first game that it was really someone with terrible taste for names in disguise, but that only happened in Origins and they pulled it off terribly.

Also, Ales Mansay's backstory wasn't in the final game, so as cool as it was you can't really count it.
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Having only read the first post of this thread I actually did find this on itch.io this morning that does kinda give me a Rayman 1 vibe.
https://pankapu.itch.io/pankapu-the-dreamkeeper-
Not exactly a Rayman game, but It certainly seems inspired by rayman, its even being made by the french. Maybe worth looking into?
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buildersith wrote:Having only read the first post of this thread I actually did find this on itch.io this morning that does kinda give me a Rayman 1 vibe.
https://pankapu.itch.io/pankapu-the-dreamkeeper-
Not exactly a Rayman game, but It certainly seems inspired by rayman, its even being made by the french. Maybe worth looking into?
Definitely looking into this! Looks neat!
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You people give me a lot to think about. You may all end up ruining it all for me!
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Always wanted a Metroidvania title, but it's a pipe dream methinks
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I wouldn't want that. I hate those kinds of games.
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To each their own, but seeing as there have been Metroidvania elements in past titles, I think it'd make an interesting experiment if nothing else.
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Meh... I like metroidvania games but to be honest I don't think they would fit with Rayman...
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If you haven't played them already you should try out the Game Boy Advance versions of Rayman 3 and Raving Rabbids. They play pretty much like the first game.
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They're fairly old though.
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