Religion – your views

[Bradandez]

god has a sense of humor because he made monkeys

[Xenon]

god has a sense of humor because he made monkeys

He has a sense of humour in forcing women to ride horses side-saddle and men not, and not the other way around.

[Bradandez]

if god doesn't exist, how do you explain the sunset?

[Xenon]

Was that rhetorical?

[Bradandez]

Yes, because it can't be debunked. god rises the sun every day. checkmate, atheists.

[deton24]

If someone believes they are doing something righteously they will believe they have a space reserved in heaven. That alone proves religion is false, as the billions of religionists on this planet each hold their own individual value beliefs.

No it's not, it's nature, and God created nature I think.

But there are some commonly accepted, and unaccepted values such like killing innocent people, with which most people, and in this way, the most powerful people disagree.

Reading the Book of Genesis, it really fits into the puzzle that our nature is in fact, created by God, moreover, created in its own image, with this independence, free will etc. but through the sin, distorted by sin. That's why control of my behavior may be limited, it may getting worse, and you need to work on yourself in order to not only achieve something in life, but also to make something good in life, to deserve be called "good man". Like everything valuable in life, it not comes easy.

[Bradandez]

god is real and knows that you peed on that girl for sexual pleasure, you sinner

[jurebj]

I don't know what I believe.

[gamerz31w]

I believe I was selfish,arogant,assholish and stalkerish to earthgwee like Amy Rose old stereotypes.I believe I made mistake that I revealed adsolution's top secret fangame.As for incognito I believe I did underrestimating his usual personality because of criticizing youtube channel called college humour.Please earthgwee and incognito forgive me.Being enemies won't solve anything.Let's become a friends shall we?

[incognito]

I believe I was selfish,arogant,assholish and stalkerish to earthgwee like Amy Rose old stereotypes.I believe I made mistake that I revealed adsolution's top secret fangame.As for incognito I believe I did underrestimating his usual personality because of criticizing youtube channel called college humour.Please earthgwee and incognito forgive me.Being enemies won't solve anything.Let's become a friends shall we?

Well, I don't know if this is the adequate topic but, I never considered you as an enemy, and I never frequented the college humour channel tbh.
But... I assume you have difficulties to follow the social protocols of this world, as you can see telling someone his laugh sounds like grunting woman orgasm is waaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy far from being adequate.
It is good that you admit making mistakes though, in particular in a public manner.
And also sorry to decline the offer but despite calling people "bud","bub","bro","dude", or even "friend" I don't take or have friends, it is against the code, and subsequently against a part of my religion. Nothing personal. I'm a loner.

[deton24]

So some code exists here?
Unbelievable.

[incognito]

So some code exists here?
Unbelievable.

No, it ain't the rules of the community.
The code is the rules of my life.

[deton24]

Tought so

[Hunchman801]

[rant]
I'm fully aware that science can't explain everything either, quite the contrary, which I believe is probably one of the reasons why people believe in God instead. But to me, it seems like there's at least indications for some of the scientific explanations to hold truth in them (I mentioned the ape-human-thing several times already), whereas I can't see any indication for God's existence.

I don't know whether it was thanks to these discussions, but I managed to at least get a glimpse into why people would possibly believe in God. I hope that you, on the other hand, can understand why someone wouldn't (unless you're non-religious as well and put that question out there just like that). It's just that to me, there's some proof (or at least indications, whatever) to science, but none to God. In my eyes, sticking with whatever seemed more reliable - as in, more seeming-to-be-proof being available - seemed like the logical choice.
[/rant]

I don't have proof that God doesn't exist, it just strikes me as odd that people who believe in God to explain things which science can't explain (due to lack of proof, I might add) can do so when it's just the same thing there. Because even if I don't have any proof, you don't have any either, right? And that's what my point was: Why not believe in science when there's no proof either way? Even if I'm somehow starting to see the reasoning of religious people, I still can't help but wonder.

The opposition of science and religion you are basing your reasoning on is a flawed premise, as it is perfectly possible to believe in God as well as in globally accepted scientific theories (I suppose that's what you meant by “believe in science”, as there's in fact no such thing as believing in science, science being, according to Wikipedia, “a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe”).

Of course, in the case of Christianity, that would mean not taking the Bible literally, but scriptures are always subject to interpretation, and anyone who believes that the world was created 6000 years ago is a backwards idiot anyway. But many scientists still believe in God, while obviously believing in commonly accepted scientific theories, and strictly following deductive reasoning.

I realized that logically there is no god.

I'd love to hear that logical reasoning.

Religion cannot advocate tolerance, tolerance is a personal matter. Religion is only about the supernatural, and the supernatural can only encourage tolerance through threat. If only religion has motivated you to be kind to your neighbor, you are selfish. If you see good in humanity after becoming Christian, doing good to your neighbor was not a result of Christianity, it's an incidental side-effect. If a religious authority advocates tolerance, it is "side" objective reasoning, not related to religion.

Those are very brash assertions, can you back up any of them?

[Dart]

Personally I don't believe in any Gods or faith but I'm not Atheistic either, I've just come to the conclusion that life has no greater meaning than what you decide to make of it, which gets me through most days. I don't really care if people choose to have a faith, more power to it honestly, I just can't be me if I restrict myself to codes I don't agree with- like Exodus 21:7- and I would prefer that people in turn respect my life decisions... and also please don't sell your kids to slave trades please.

[Itooh]

and also please don't sell your kids to slave trades please.

But… The deals are so good nowadays!
They even offer t-shirts.

[anaphasiia]

Religion cannot advocate tolerance, tolerance is a personal matter. Religion is only about the supernatural, and the supernatural can only encourage tolerance through threat. If only religion has motivated you to be kind to your neighbor, you are selfish. If you see good in humanity after becoming Christian, doing good to your neighbor was not a result of Christianity, it's an incidental side-effect. If a religious authority advocates tolerance, it is "side" objective reasoning, not related to religion.

Those are very brash assertions, can you back up any of them?

Religious concepts require reasons involving the supernatural, otherwise they are not religious, whereas morals like "be kind to your neighbor" are secular because they have socially logical reason behind them. Since the only vehicle of religious reasoning is threat [of going to Hell, or facing punishment], or something completely artificial, it's similar to hitting a child to teach them a lesson: "it works until they're old enough to understand what they did was wrong", or "it strips them of dignity so they might, as a side-effect of that, think about what they did". The positive result is the true, non-selfish social realization, which is only incidental and has nothing to do with religion itself.

Personally I don't believe in any Gods or faith but I'm not Atheistic either

Well you just described an atheist, so how are you not atheistic?

[Keane]

If Jesus was so perfect why wasn't he buff?

[deton24]

Jezus short after resurrection appeared the disciples saying that he haven't ascended to his Father yet. We can say in order to posses more power and might, and finally reign from His kingdom, "not of this world", presumably, effectively.
Resurection was also connected with transfiguration of His Body.

[Itooh]

Lying to avoid getting crucified not bad.
Getting crucified only to resurrect a few days later and piss off Romans pretty badass!

[Actually we should write a version of the Second Testament where Jesus' resurrection is a huge plot twist, and Judas is revealed to be Jesus' accomplice.
And let's include Sherlock Holmes too. Yeah. Best-seller incoming.]