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[Ray502]

Those reasons, at least with how you've presented them, don't make sense.

My reasons were to explain that The You Game isn't some average, invaluable topic where people post crap that have no value to the forum. In fact, it has helped keep RPC active as far as the Off Topic section of the English forum goes. Over 8,000 pages since 2003, the most posted topic in RPC. And if you say that it's some below average topic where people goof around with stupid comments, then that's an invalid claim that should be irrelevant to this discussion. Maybe I need to open my eyes more but, can you at least provide evidence?

[Adsolution]

Notice how I at no point said that You Game posts weren't valuable. You construed that narrative from your belief that shitposts are worthless/spam and how I said that I find shitposts, on average, to be more valuable than You Game posts.

invaluable

invaluable means priceless

[Ray502]

your every-day average You Game post has about as much or even less value to it than the average shitpost

But what does this mean then?

shitposts are worthless/spam

Did I ever say something like that?

invaluable means priceless

Common sense would indicate invaluable should be an antonym to valuable, guess not. My mistake.

[Keane]

That's the main problem right there. Leave whatever they talk about in Discord and related chats, keep it there. The forum has come a long way, it would be a shame for it to come to a sharp decline in general.

But again, activity has actually increased as opposed to a "sharp decline" we had a few years back. I don't follow the train of thought here and it sounds like people are hopping aboard a false idea, how is RPC's activity declining? There's plenty active threads, and the accused shitposters (i hope they fucking die!!!) are equally (if not more!!) providing the normal formal posts you guys are wanking off to. I literally, licherally have no fucking idea what you guys are talking about.

Do your thing

What's "my thing"?

Posting on your group with your growing gang, punk.

including...

The main problem is that it is like treachery, the more you do the more you want, and on the end it doesn't look good. By that of course I mean that the more I shitpost the more I wanna shitpost, and id doesn't contribute in making me better.

Some people work when they're offline.

Well, look, I've got to just jump in here because, honestly, Sen. Sanders is the only person who I think would characterize me, a woman running to be the first woman president, as exemplifying the establishment. And I've got to tell you that it is...It is really quite amusing to me

This is just how I consider the only 2 guys who occasionally shitpost here.

My reasons were to explain that The You Game isn't some average, invaluable topic where people post crap that have no value to the forum. In fact, it has helped keep RPC active as far as the Off Topic section of the English forum goes. Over 8,000 pages since 2003, the most posted topic in RPC. And if you say that it's some below average topic where people goof around with stupid comments, then that's an invalid claim that should be irrelevant to this discussion. Maybe I need to open my eyes more but, can you at least provide evidence?

The You Game is a thread where people type out whatever they're rambling to themselves about, how often do you actually see any substantive discussion happen in there? And what's wrong with people goofing around with stupid comments? Giving people a goof and a gaff is more substantive than < ate pizza < woke up with a headache < pulsating anus. But we don't ban either form of posting because that's what keeps things comfy and enjoyable, so it's, almost like, this whole discussion is fucking stupid and useless!

If this was an actual problem in the first place, then I still don't get why we're like handing guns to each other and asking to pull the trigger. If said "shitposting" derailed conversation and meant random memes getting posted in the wrong topics there'd be a point to be had, but right now inco's acting like we're waterboarding him because he had to scroll past some zalgo text in the off-topic thread. Since when did a name calling and acting retarded (in good fun) become so foreign?

But what does this mean then?

what if poo in penis?

[Ray502]

I don't follow the train of thought here and it sounds like people are hopping aboard a false idea, how is RPC's activity declining?

I may, or may not, have fallen victim to the bandwagon. If memory serves me right, I do believe this forum used to be more active in terms of posts per day in my early days. I could be wrong, but it just feels like there isn't as much posts and activity as it used to be.

how often do you actually see any substantive discussion happen in there

Not much. But once again, it isn't qualified in the spam department. Therefore, and all the topic's stats, it shouldn't be considered your ordinary topic that don't provide a good level of activity. Think of it as an RPC social media topic. Ain't social media a factor and influence on this world today? Substance or little, it could be a whole lot worse.

And what's wrong with people goofing around with stupid comments

There isn't anything wrong with stupid comments and goofing around, if it's in the right topic/discussion of course. Although, don't go full retard. Never, go full retard.

what if poo in penis?

That combination of words seem, very, familiar.

[Adsolution]

But what does this mean then?

Fa facking christ dudeo there are more shades of value between w o r t h l e s s and "equal to or less valuable than something else"1

[incognito]

including...

The main problem is that it is like treachery, the more you do the more you want, and on the end it doesn't look good. By that of course I mean that the more I shitpost the more I wanna shitpost, and id doesn't contribute in making me better.

If you can't understand my words, buy yourself a brain. I only said "I" as a matter of example, I could have said "one" of something else.

I literally, licherally have no fucking idea what you guys are talking about.

Of course, you post over 9 thousand posts a day in RayChat, how could you have any fucking idea of what we are talking about right here ?!

That's the main problem right there. Leave whatever they talk about in Discord and related chats, keep it there. The forum has come a long way, it would be a shame for it to come to a sharp decline in general.

But again, activity has actually increased as opposed to a "sharp decline" we had a few years back. I don't follow the train of thought here and it sounds like people are hopping aboard a false idea, how is RPC's activity declining?

A few years back even when the activity was declining, I or any other member with the will to bring some life back could randomly browse a topic and find a decent post to answer, now all I see is... Meh, even answering posts after RD seems better.

w o r t h l e s s

V a p o r w a v e.

I may, or may not, have fallen victim to the bandwagon. If memory serves me right, I do believe this forum used to be more active in terms of posts per day in my early days. I could be wrong, but it just feels like there isn't as much posts and activity as it used to be.

This is right, for someone who has been everyday here since I registered 4 years ago I can really say that even the July of 2015 which was the most inactive period of my userlifetime had more decent and numerous posts than now, even when Hoodcom locked that topic we are posting in.

[Hunchman801]

I'm not getting into this argument but I can at least correct some factual errors.

But again, activity has actually increased as opposed to a "sharp decline" we had a few years back. I don't follow the train of thought here and it sounds like people are hopping aboard a false idea, how is RPC's activity declining? There's plenty active threads, and the accused shitposters (i hope they fucking die!!!) are equally (if not more!!) providing the normal formal posts you guys are wanking off to. I literally, licherally have no fucking idea what you guys are talking about.

The activity of the forum is indeed declining.

In fact, the months of April, May, August, September, October, November and December 2016 were the least active since 2007 with the exception of October 2010 (and May 2016 was actually the worst since 2007, even worse than October 2010). June 2016 was hardly better than the 2013 low, and July can't really be compared as record day took place then, though it is worth nothing that we didn't even reach three quarters of the previous record.

In short, pretty much every single month since last April saw the worst activity in almost ten years.

Unless Discord is somehow more active than Skype then the IRC at it's peak has been greatly active that's on par with how Skype is now, and unless you guys only got it when people stopped using the IRC then i've no idea how you two could compare the chats.

I don't have access to any figures regarding the IRC but having been around back when it was a thing, I remember it being way less active than the Skype group, and certainly not reaching in the thousands of messages per day.

EDIT: On another note, has new members always been this way? Come on the forum for one or two weeks and suddenly disappear?

Yes, nothing's changed. New members come frequently, only a few stick around; this happens on every forum.

I think the retention rate used to be higher, and this drop is most likely caused by the low activity. Shitposting certainly doesn't help but I don't think there was enough of it lately to deter potential members. In any case, please refrain yourselves from making the situation any worse.

Also:

Eh, it's not like we've reached a level where folks are talking about conversational networks and the like.

I wouldn't be too sure of that if I were you, forums are considered as dinosaurs nowadays.

Someone missed the point here.

[incognito]

The Man talked, with those facts presented I don't even feel like taking that discussion any further.

Eh, it's not like we've reached a level where folks are talking about conversational networks and the like.

I wouldn't be too sure of that if I were you, forums are considered as dinosaurs nowadays.

Someone missed the point here.

Whoops, I seemingly totes missed the irony here, upon rereading it it seems flagrant.

[Ray502]

The Man talked, with those facts presented I don't even feel like taking that discussion any further.

Does that mean we were on the winning side of the discussion?

Well, appreciate Hunch's facts. Cause this was going nowhere without actual, pure, evidence.

[Adsolution]

I don't have access to any figures regarding the IRC but having been around back when it was a thing, I remember it being way less active than the Skype group, and certainly not reaching in the thousands of messages per day.

Actually, given that I have (had) access to the figures, there were times where the IRC reached 2000+ messages per-day.

Does that mean we were on the winning side of the discussion?

I have a hard time placing you and incognito on the same side of the discussion, because:

The Man talked, with those facts presented I don't even feel like taking that discussion any further.

The amount of complete nonsense that came out of your mouth over the last few pages is staggering. You're the last person who should be feeling accomplished after all this.

And before you say anything, recall that I never denied that the forum's activity was declining. Though, I think where IMs have had the biggest impact are the forum games like This or That, Word to Word, the You Game and the Person Above You game.

[Ray502]

The amount of complete nonsense that came out of your mouth over the last few pages is staggering

Nonsense? Even if my sentences were "nonsense," at least I supported and explained them with clear reasoning. Maybe I'm getting mixed messages here.

And before you say anything, recall that I never denied that the forum's activity was declining

I never said you did.

You're the last person who should be feeling accomplished after all this.

I'm not feeling accomplished at all. And you're right, I am the last person.

Remember I didn't start any of this, I offered my opinion on the whole subject after inco's post that started the discussion. Was it the best one? No. Mostly cause I didn't keep much track of activity in 2012-2013, and didn't have a ton of supporting facts.

It's kinda funny how we've had spats since Betilla's Garden days, and still do.

[Adsolution]

That entire part of my post you replied to was directed at incognito, lol.

[Ray502]

Please start saying names more often, or else I'm gonna keep making an idiot out of myself.

[incognito]

I have a hard time placing you and incognito on the same side of the discussion, because

The Man talked, with those facts presented I don't even feel like taking that discussion any further.

The amount of complete nonsense that came out of your mouth over the last few pages is staggering. You're the last person who should be feeling accomplished after all this.

If you wanna take it here I'll just leave here that conversations with you and Keane are just literally :

The Man talked, with those facts presented I don't even feel like taking that discussion any further.

Does that mean we were on the winning side of the discussion?

Well, appreciate Hunch's facts.

Well I do, it just proved a big part of what I previously said. Too bad that good posts doesn't have stats.

It is a pity that the RPC made all of us meet and discuss because we all at one point loved and had interest Rayman, only for it to be deserted the more fashion IM where one can unleash his shitpost wrath.
It just goes down down and down until a new generation of users appear.

I really used to enjoy and like that place, but the more it goes and the more it almost feels like an obligation to come here.

[Hunchman801]

Actually, given that I have (had) access to the figures, there were times where the IRC reached 2000+ messages per-day.

Oh yeah, I'm sure it saw days of intense activity. I simply have the impression, having seen both, that the Skype group is significantly more active.

Another factor to take into account is probably the fact that the community is smaller nowadays, and one might want to consider the activity of other channels relative to that of the forum.

[Keane]

The activity of the forum is indeed declining.

fug!

In fact, the months of April, May, August, September, October, November and December 2016 were the least active since 2007 with the exception of October 2010 (and May 2016 was actually the worst since 2007, even worse than October 2010). June 2016 was hardly better than the 2013 low, and July can't really be compared as record day took place then, though it is worth nothing that we didn't even reach three quarters of the previous record.

In short, pretty much every single month since last April saw the worst activity in almost ten years.

Interesching, I thought 2016 overall was a much better year for engaging discussion than the kind of dry period we had prior. I haven't felt like the forums experienced any sort of hit in that respect, but I guess a lot of oldies have fucked off?

The Man talked, with those facts presented I don't even feel like taking that discussion any further.

noo o that wasnt your point you said some dumbass shit about "these posts arent like the posts that need to be and a disgrace ruining the lives of raympc!! disgusting!!!" and then you shoehorned the inactivity subject into being triggered because skype discussion not your interest and joke not your taste.

Well I do, it just proved a big part of what I previously said. Too bad that good posts doesn't have stats.

It is a pity that the RPC made all of us meet and discuss because we all at one point loved and had interest Rayman, only for it to be deserted the more fashion IM where one can unleash his shitpost wrath.
It just goes down down and down until a new generation of users appear.

I really used to enjoy and like that place, but the more it goes and the more it almost feels like an obligation to come here.

point in case.........................

There's nothing wrong with the Skype chat and your war on it is still supremely retardne. It's been a great way to talk with people who are otherwise chained to a certain handful of forum topics and interact outside the limits of posting, plus it's a fun distraction during work and has a been a real good way!! for people to have real-time conversation and do something together.

That doesn't mean the forums are unnecessary or too restrained to allow good discussion, it's just a different form of interaction with different topics, hanging out with a friend is different from having class with them. I wouldn't be posting here every day and with this much content if the evil niggerchat was consuming my rpc needs, as you suggested. Everything posted in Skype wouldn't be posted here if it didn't exist, there's plenty said there that's too personal, or pushes limits, or is just smalltalk that doesn't warrant a forum discussion. It isn't the spam outlet you're trying to paint and blame.

Skype isn't a hivemind of identical personalities (even though some of us here seem to be vouching for that kind of thing!) and clearly RPC's, "more representative" members aren't getting mctriggered when we pull a goof in there, the same way you could've easily scrolled over zalgo text and an emote and not been a little bitch!! But instead the mere sight of this haunting shitposting caused you to poo your pants until your whole suit filled up with poo and your helmet filled with poo and the poo started filling your stomach and coming back out your anus and back into your mouth (x4) until finally you pulled the mask off and vomited the poo out and in the shitty, warm, wet pile stuck out the posts you submitted in this thread.

[incognito]

You're just literally admitting that posting on Skype is better than here because less restrictive, also, "War" ? Hell no, aside of posting what I had in mind which is seemingly in opposition to what you have in your head, I had absolutely not any will to turn things into fucking flaming. From what I see in the chat there ain't only useless content, there are good parts, but people in there always tend to forget RPC, I know why the group is so active, y'all just wanna have unrestricted fun and wanna get to know yourselves each other better, just pretty much what every teenager want but it leaves this place empty and inactive, this is a fact, dot.

[Keane]

You're just literally admitting that posting on Skype is better than here because less restrictive

no o :

That doesn't mean the forums are unnecessary or too restrained to allow good discussion, it's just a different form of interaction with different topics, hanging out with a friend is different from having class with them. I wouldn't be posting here every day and with this much content if the evil niggerchat was consuming my rpc needs, as you suggested. Everything posted in Skype wouldn't be posted here if it didn't exist, there's plenty said there that's too personal, or pushes limits, or is just smalltalk that doesn't warrant a forum discussion. It isn't the spam outlet you're trying to paint and blame.

i said they were different forms of interaction and there isn't some sort of choice or preference to have between them. what do you, do you prefer how i described skype? inco are you a, are you a bitch!

, also, "War" ? Hell no, aside of posting what I had in mind which is seemingly in opposition to what you have in your head, I had absolutely not any will to turn things into fucking flaming.

ohh hoh h you just, wait up, hold up right here inco! im so mad i, i could smash a fuck!

I know why the group is so active, y'all just wanna have unrestricted fun and wanna get to know yourselves each other better, just pretty much what every teenager want but it leaves this place empty and inactive, this is a fact, dot.

[Rayfist]

So exactly how is the skype chat a bad thing?
The skype chat helped me to connect with the members on here beyond a level of friendship, and as Keane said, it's a nice little quick distraction. I was able to connect with some members beyond other interests than just 'Rayman.' Once again to echo Keane, it's not a matter of more activity on skype, rather, a different (and for me, more serious) type of interaction.

I try to avoid my joke type posts and save that for skype, but if you see my recent posts whenever I try to type out something more serious (thoughts on a game, discussion related to Rayman, etc.), I post it on here.