now that the presentation has settled in and discussion has opened up:
The good!
> Zelda and Mario signal that Nintendo has finally learned how to properly do games again and suggests that they'll be able to produce more on this scale over the course of the console's library. There's been this point where, if Nintendo had announced a Metroid for the Wii U, I think the hype wouldn't entirely have been there because the trailer didn't look that great, or the visuals looked underwhelming or it didn't learn from Other M's mistakes.
These games look like they're really the next step, like in an N64 to GameCube way. I feel like they're doing and being more than what even great games of previous consoles did, whereas good Wii U games often boiled down to established concepts in an HD jacket. And above all they just look like games that were developed by people with a creative drive and careful execution, so unlike 3D World that seemed like such a product of Nintendo's situation at the time. Especially after just coming out of Colour Splash and Star Fox which were like every bad Nintendo decision wrapped up into games, this is an enormous breath of fresh air.
> The console itself looks good. I mean the controllers are great, the portable aspect is a huge plus, 8 player local multiplayer, no region locking, etc. It's a solid console and I think the console itself will not be a problem when it comes to trying to market. I think with the right games the Switch can be a very successful console.
> 300 buckaroos is fine, especially since otherwise you'd be paying like 250 for the home console and another 150 for the portable one. That means more games and all the focus on one system too. It's fucking crazy to think 6-7 years ago I was impressed by animated sprites and a few shitty 3D objects in Pokemon B&W - imagine what the new one on Switch is going to look like in comparison.
The In Between111111
> Splatoon 2. I think it will get people hyped and look more like a sequel than remake when we see more of it, but two things: First off, paid online for this game would be a big problem. Unless it's free, and then it still feels like a downgrade. Having to pay a subscription to play this game at all seems like a big problem, and just not worth avoiding the occasional wait between matches. If the game is free, ehh alright, but if they're gonna charge 60 bux and then expect me to pay like 8.99 a month just to play it at all, that's a total scam. That might seem like a crazy idea, but I feel like that's the exact sort of thing Nintendo would do. Anyone paying 50 bucks for 1 2 Switch or 8.99$ + tax per easily emulated SNES game?
And also, I kinda feel like we didn't need this? Splatoon is still a very popular game and this just feels like it's coming too soon. I think it would've been a much smarter idea to instead release Animal Crossing (a game of about the same production value, and New Leaf was one of the Nintendo's bestselling games in recent years) and just port Splatoon for free because the online earns them money anyway.
The Bad
> Paid online fucking sucks. I mean doing this when they offered it for free for two generations, it's really like if Spotify and YouTube suddenly began charging money to listen to music. You just can't really go back on that when you've established a luxury for so long. I also feel like Nintendo's online library just isn't really worth it, the PS4/Xbox offer more games with more competitive play. Who the fuck is gonna subscribe to play Mario Kart 8 online, a game they've been playing for free since 2014, and they need to repurchase to even play at all? The first couple months online is just for MK8, and then Splatoon - are you gonna dish out monthly money for just that? It could be another year or more until Smash comes out.
> On that note, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe has no new tracks. I love the battle system and I really wanna try it out, but is it worth 50-60 bucks, plus 60-120 a year just to play it online? I am gonna buy it again just because I'm a huge Nintentard, but I really do think it's a bad deal that will turn people off.
> The launch titles are really weak, and the whole year doesn't look much better. Zelda is the only game for the whole launch, alienating anyone who isn't a fan. Later in the year we get a Mario Kart port, an arguably unnecessary Splatoon sequel, and not until the holidays Mario. Otherwise there's not much to care about for the whole year, unless Xenoblade does drop this year. I mean, we're talking four launch games here, one of which looks like it should've already been bundled with the device, and even the big one is also available on Wii U and probably only became a Switch title because the development took so bloody long.
I'm not seeing the right third party support, I know some people are hyped for SMT but is that it? It really reminds me of buying the Wii U, playing mario bros, and then just collecting dust on this brand new console I really wanted to play but there were no fucking games. I'm really, really hoping the Switch is a 3DS case where if the games eventually pick up it'll survive the rocky launch. But I'm woried Arms and a mario port is actually going to have to carry it through the first half of 2017, and then all E3 is is "hey remember xenoblade and fire emblem? well now they're coming out"
> 1 2 Switch isn't worth the price, and Arms looks...ok. I mean, it'll probably be a good game, but I doubt it'll have Splatoon success. It just looks like a decent little game, but not like a big future Nintendo IP.
> 32gb of storage, overpriced accessories, needing a phone app to chat online (good thing paid online is worth it...), expiring "free" games, questionable hardware that might turn off developers, hngngh
All in all I'm fairly excited for the console, I can't wait to try it, but I'm worried it's not going to pack a real punch. Also:
