Linux

[Fifo]

Bump!

I’m installing Gentoo (again!) in VMware, this time with GNOME though.

I’d like an answer to this question:
Should I configure and compile my own kernel or take the one that’s on the disc?

[PluMGMK]

It depends… are you sure that you're never going to change the virtual hardware configuration of the VM, or move the installation to a different one? If so, you can make the kernel smaller by building it yourself and including only the drivers you need. If you need something more portable, you might be better off going with the one from the disc. That said, I'm not really sure what Gentoo tends to package with kernels…

[Fifo]

are you sure that you're never going to change the virtual hardware configuration of the VM, or move the installation to a different one?

Not planning to change anything.

If so, you can make the kernel smaller by building it yourself and including only the drivers you need. If you need something more portable, you might be better off going with the one from the disc. That said, I'm not really sure what Gentoo tends to package with kernels…

I think I’ll build it myself despite the added pain.

[PluMGMK]

Tbh I find building a kernel to be one of the least painful parts of building a system like this. Although maybe that's because I regularly update it, and re-use the same config file all the time.

[Fifo]

What’s the most painful part then? I wanna know!

[PluMGMK]

In my case, I'd say any package that doesn't have an obvious way to build separate 32- and 64-bit versions. Boost for example, or OpenSSL. Also lots of packages that use CMake don't have any way to switch the libdir between /usr/lib and /usr/lib64.
So yeah, it'd be easier on a Pure64 system. In that case, I think the most painful part would be building the graphics stack. So many different packages! But at least all the X11 protocol headers were merged into a single package lately, Xorgproto. So progress is being made on that front too!

[Fifo]

Wow. I can just imagine the pain.

EDIT: Damn, I lost the snapshot with the configured ready-to-compile kernel in VMware and I couldn’t be arsed to do it again – I guess I’ll just do ‘genkernel all’ and save myself the pain.

[Fifo]

Sorry for the double post.

I’ve installed it successfully! I’ve done a ‘genkernel all’ instead of setting everything up myself – still better than just taking the one from the CD.

[Reese Riverson]

Sorry? I'm gonna! Nah... I'm not gonna...


One issue that keeps annoying me with Fedora right now is that it doesn't stay asleep. On my Asus ZenBook I always find the battery is drained down. I'm wondering if Ubuntu will be any different, but I'm waiting for 18.04 to release first.

[PluMGMK]

I'm hearing bad things about automatic suspend. They were going to enable it by default in the next Ubuntu release but then chickened out. I'm not too familiar with the issue but I get the feeling it's on the level of character encodings: "how on earth is this still a problem in 2018?? "

[Reese Riverson]

Chickened out why? I know closing the lid usually makes it suspend but the problem is it just keeps reawakening often. Some days worse than others.

So that's really my only issue running a linux distro thus far. Probably the biggest complaint as well.


So far I still feel rather stuck with Windows 7 and 8.1 for my desktop computers. Though there will be a time where there's simply no choice but to make a full switch. That's why the laptop is key.

[PluMGMK]

By "automatic suspend" I mean automatically suspending after several minutes of inactivity. Personally I would find it annoying, and they chickened out because suspending can still mess things up on some machines, apparently. (Of course, it's always optional, the only thing that was changed was whether or not it was the default)

[Reese Riverson]

Is it possible that Fedora keeps getting awakened by system notifications or once it does it never goes back to sleep?

[PluMGMK]

I'm not sure. As far as I can tell, complaints were about automatic suspend being too aggressive, shutting down compiles and stuff like that. I refer to https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page= ... to-Suspend and the articles linked to therein.

[incognito]

Bump!

I’m installing Gentoo (again!) in VMware, this time with GNOME though.

I’d like an answer to this question:
Should I configure and compile my own kernel or take the one that’s on the disc?

Dude, grow balls and install it as your daily system, Gentoo's somethin' you don't regret on a PC, you'll get unmatched performances whatever you do.

So my, way, tons of things happened while I was absent, I had lotsof issues on my Slackware, breaking what was my system for 4 years, and leaving me with nothing but Windows, but I managed to backup my files through a miraculous Chroot, and reinstalled my Slackware, before abandoning it again, and try Arch Linux...
Arch Linux...
IT WAS A DISASTER XD
Rolling are too much for me, my bandwidth and my budget... It learnt me many things, and I come out of it more experienced than evah.

Now I'm back on my Slackware again, optimized like never, everything working flawlessly, ready to be used as my daily driver whenever I need it.

However...
I'm facing some issues with Lua and its affiliates, but the Slackware development team is of a huge support, and I think they'll be dealt with in no time...

[Fifo]

Bump!I’m installing Gentoo (again!) in VMware, this time with GNOME though.

I’d like an answer to this question:
Should I configure and compile my own kernel or take the one that’s on the disc?

Dude, grow balls and install it as your daily system, Gentoo's somethin' you don't regret on a PC, you'll get unmatched performances whatever you do.

I can’t be arsed to wipe everything on my old PC.

Well I do have a spare HDD I could put it on.
But I can’t be arsed to burn a CD for something that’ll eventually get updated.

[incognito]

How you installed it in VirtualBox then ? Also, you can do it from USB, and you can partition your hard drive after heavily defragmenting it with MiniTool partition wizard, and loose no data...

Now I think yer out of reasons to not do it, lol, and use ZFS as your partition format...

[Fifo]

How you installed it in VirtualBox then ?

I used VMware, not VirtualBox. Also, Gentoo does support virtual machines.

Also, you can do it from USB, and you can partition your hard drive after heavily defragmenting it with MiniTool partition wizard, and loose no data...

Will do.

[PluMGMK]

ZFS? Come on, that's cruel.

EDIT: Here's something that nicely complements what I said about Python before:

[Reese Riverson]

I used VMware, not VirtualBox. Also, Gentoo does support virtual machines.

VMware makes really great software, I love using ESXi on my Dell R710 server and will be using it on the office Dell R720XD server as well.

ZFS? Come on, that's cruel.

The file system FreeNAS uses on my SuperMicro storage server at home. I just need to figure out how to set permissions more thoroughly since I want to have specific network folders for mom, dad, and myself. Along with some shared content like the video storage and music media.

Speaking of which do you have any experience with that, Plum?


Also I've learned that fdisk -l and smartctl -a /dev/[DISK NAME HERE] are your friends on linux, when it comes to checking the S.M.A.R.T. data on drives.