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Re: Rayman Headcanons

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I like to imagine that Mr dark is just some huge joker and not a serious villain at all.
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Here's a headcanon I had last year:
PluMGMK wrote: Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:55 pm I have a new idea for how Rayman M might be canon. The pirates noticed that Rayman was able to win power by racing against Ly, and a few of them decided to trick the inhabitants of the Glade into thinking they wanted a friendly race, so they could win the same power for themselves. Of course, the inhabitants of the Glade were wise to that, and devised this elaborate race tournament, culminating in the Pirate Factory, so they could gather some useful intel while leading the pirates in a merry dance. They also convinced the pirates that they could win even more power with an evenly-matched battle tournament, hence Battle Mode, which allowed them to get in some useful combat training.

Taking this to its conclusion, one could say that Rayman 2's denouement might have been a lot more prosaic than that game made it look – instead of a lone hero (Rayman) taking down the pirate empire, there was in fact a parallel, co-ordinated sabotage campaign by the supposedly-enslaved inhabitants of the Glade, taking place in the background. In fact, maybe the Masks were yet another distraction for Razorbeard, to keep him concentrating on Rayman while everyone else got on with tearing apart the empire from within. :idea:

EDIT: Maybe the pirates stipulated that they should also have input into the design of the tournaments, and some of the smarter ones decided that the Battle Mode should culminate in the Glade's Temples, as a quid pro quo for the Factories. This could even explain the presence of pirate cages deep in the Sanctuaries of Stone and Fire and Rock and Lava.
Taking it further, perhaps Murfy's sarcastic comments about Rayman's prowess at the beginning of Rayman 3 were actually reflecting how he was sick of propping up Ray's ego, when saving the Glade was actually more of a collaborative effort than the main games suggest. And maybe RRR is when everyone got sick of propping up his ego, so they decided to let him rot in a prison run by crazed rabbits – remember how he called out for Globox? :hap:
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PluMGMK wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:09 pm Taking it further, perhaps Murfy's sarcastic comments about Rayman's prowess at the beginning of Rayman 3 were actually reflecting how he was sick of propping up Ray's ego, when saving the Glade was actually more of a collaborative effort than the main games suggest. And maybe RRR is when everyone got sick of propping up his ego, so they decided to let him rot in a prison run by crazed rabbits – remember how he called out for Globox? :hap:
That might also be an explanation for why Origins and Legends let you play as other characters and in co-op mode. Being stuck with the Rabbids taught Rayman to work with others and let them have credit too!
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My thoughts exactly!

Of course, there's also that Rayman Legends trailer about how everything is better with friends, or something like that! That's probably what got me thinking in this space…
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I have no evidence for this, but I like to think Barbara is the daughter of Grogh from Tonic Trouble. They've both got that strong Viking vibe to them, along with their red hair.
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Croboculous wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:42 am I have no evidence for this, but I like to think Barbara is the daughter of Grogh from Tonic Trouble. They've both got that strong Viking vibe to them, along with their red hair.
I really like that idea, and considering that Grogh at some point was some kind of ruler/king of the world, that would explain why Barbara used to be a princess.
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So here's a headcanon I made a whole AU out of: Rayman and Mr. Dark are rogue spells who gained sentience because Betilla and the Magician used them one too many times.
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Betilla used Rayman and the Magician used Mister Dark, or they were each using both?
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PluMGMK wrote: Wed Sep 01, 2021 6:22 pm Betilla used Rayman and the Magician used Mister Dark, or they were each using both?
Rayman was Betilla's spell (a sun ray spell used to project her image) and Mister Dark was the Magician's spell (a shadow spell meant to spy on people)
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Yes, that makes sense!
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I have a headcanon about the bullets that have mallets swinging out of them in Rayman 1. Mr. Dark created the hunters, but when he created their weapons he'd never seen a gun before and had no clue what one looked like, so he went with his best guess.
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Even though Razorbeard and his Robot Pirate army aren't depicted in this manner in the games, but I can imagine that their race can possibly sniff or sense a person's pheromones, and their physical, as well as mental health.

From bits of mixed lore that I could find, the Pirates are from outer space, which technically makes them extraterrestrial or "alien".
So, it's not crazy to think that such a advanced race would be capable of this. Some animals in the animal kingdom can sense prey via vibrations (spiders), and others detect that something may be wrong with people (cats and dogs).
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Interesting theory… Is that the means by which they "steal the dreams which they could never have themselves"?
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PluMGMK wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:18 pm Interesting theory… Is that the means by which they "steal the dreams which they could never have themselves"?
Yes and no. My fan interpretation is that they can smell, for example, depression, PTSD, anxiety, and other health related problems. I already mentioned that dogs and potentially cats can detect cancer or be registered as support animals for these reasons. If Razorbeard or his Henchmen did have this ability, they wouldn't care, unless the afflicted person benefitted them.
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Well, AI can be used to recognise patterns and detect certain conditions, I even found a quote that said that AI is better than humans at predicting suicide attempts. Also, I think Razorbeard and the Spyglass Pirate have a superior inteligence than the rest of the robo-pirates, maybe they were the founders of the crew and they mass produced an army of robots in their home planet (with some monetary backing from Razorbeard's mother).

Maybe the Robo-Pirates (their ancestors) came originally from Earth and when the Tonic Trouble incident happened, some of the computers, machines and other pieces of technology gained full human sentience and decided to ditch Earth in a spaceship (thinking that Grögh will never be stopped). They traveled very far and for many years/decades until they found out a planet they could live on and prosper. I think some people call this place Robotoma.
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I could believe that they came from Earth tbh…

I don't think they have a home planet though, they just live in the Prison Ship and move from planet to planet, plundering their resources until there's nothing left. In that sense, they kinda represent the worst aspects of humanity, which is why I could believe they're from Earth.

I don't think so though, since if Rayman 2 takes place before RRR2, then Earth at that point must have been in the early 21st century at the latest, and we didn't have anything like the technology required to create sentient androids like those :fou:
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PluMGMK wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 6:47 pm I don't think they have a home planet though, they just live in the Prison Ship and move from planet to planet, plundering their resources until there's nothing left. In that sense, they kinda represent the worst aspects of humanity, which is why I could believe they're from Earth.
Well, I initially thought they had a home planet because when they invade other planets a lose soldiers and ships, who can they recover for the next invasion? However we know that they build robot factories in every place they invade and on occassions they buy resources from others (like The General), so they don't have a reason to come back to a home base (unless the situation is really bad). When Razorbeard lost at the end of R2, I always thought that he returned with Razorwife or maybe he had a separate fleet somewhere as a precaution (maybe Henchman 1000 is the leader of that fleet). If there was a planet or a colossal space station (like the Death Star) dominated by robots and Razorbeard's mother lived there and had a lot of resources, it would be the perfect place for him to return, recruit more henchmen and build another fleet. Even if Razorbeard was not built there (Robotoma), it would be a convenient place to visit from time to time. It kind of reminds me of Isla Tortuga from Pirates of the Caribbean, when Jack needed to recruit more men that's the place he went to.
PluMGMK wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 6:47 pm I don't think so though, since if Rayman 2 takes place before RRR2, then Earth at that point must have been in the early 21st century at the latest, and we didn't have anything like the technology required to create sentient androids like those :fou:
Yeah, I guess I didn't considered the RRR games. In my mind most of humanity has already perished by the time R2 happened, but then I remembered that the General was in both Tonic Trouble and R2, so both stories had to happen around the same time period. I think at this point I'm just making my own AU/fanfiction :mrgreen:.
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I headcanon that Razorwife has a collection of Gucci goodies.
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BUMP

Since I saw someone's design for Razorbeard's mother, I've been wondering:
What about Razorwife? Does she too have a set of parents? Or was she a "test tube baby"?

Her biography is rather vague in terms of origins, aside from the fact she's married to Razorbeard, and her mother in law disapproves of her.
And if Razorbeard's dislikes and likes are anything to go by, she doesn't seem like a pleasant woman. Unless you have or do something that only benefits her.
Which raises a lot of red flags. If you have a kid, would you want your kid to date, let alone marry someone as volatile, or worse, someone as possibly dangerous as her?

I'll be sharing my take on Razorwife's possible origins. Whether it's canonically plausible or not, please take it with a grain of salt.

Razorwife was "born" to her impoverished parents. In contrast to what the manuals say about her character, her parents were decent people. Her father was a coal mine worker who worked hard and honestly every day. And her mother, a overworked barmaid who works double shifts to get by so that she can provide for her family. Albeit fatigued most of the time.

Since they're in poverty, they can't afford school supplies, the mother had little time to teach Razorwife the basics. And the father... he's rarely home and is almost NEVER on break, but he always called them to make sure they're okay, or just to talk to them.
Despite her parents being decent and loving, and do their best to be there for their only child. But she was unhappy with her life.

When Razorwife was a teenager, she'd argue with her parents on a constant basis. And she would often steal what money they have earned. Heck, she'd even steal her mother's jewelry and pawn them for a quick buck. She'd be punished for this and be ordered to get them back. Which she did by breaking in and stealing them back from pawn shops. But she wouldn't get caught until the local police got tipped by anonymous witnesses.

What she did with the money isn't clear. Probably to impress her "friends" or pawns. She was a typical mean girl, spoiled heirloom thief, and unrespectable member of society. Despite all the love and care she was given, she was never satisfied. And probably didn't work a single day in her life. She left home shortly before she'd reach maturity.

She's never seen her parents since her teens.
It's unknown if they're still alive or not, or if they'd even want to remain in contact with her.
But one thing is certain: They did their best, but it just wasn't good enough for their rotten daughter.

END OF FANBIO.

As for Razorwife's parents,
The father, nicknamed "Razormole", has plain white eyes, wears a reflecting mining uniform, thermal infrared goggles to navigate underground, and has a zig-zag stash.

The mother, whom I currently don't have a name for yet, is two heads taller than her husband. Sleek-built, and rather gaunt. She wears clothing that typical bar staff wear. Aprons and dresses. Maybe a corset underneath.

In a nutshell, Razorwife would have inherited her father's buckteeth (look at moles and mole rats). And her mother's natural looks.

So, tell me; What do you think?
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Indy wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:32 pm So, tell me; What do you think?
I like it, however if I was writting it I guess it would be more sinister. For example, Razorwife could have "disappeared" her parents after they refused to grant her one of her most recent terrible requests, or even worse, she could have reprogrammed them to be mindless servants (after they became too much of a hassle, when they gave her an ultimatum to change her behaviour).

I really like the ideas for the designs of her parents, I want to try to draw them later. Also, the idea of a teen Razorwife escaping from home is something I would like to explore.
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