Ramon, Our Only Hero (CL Rewrite)

[Big J]

These designs just prove that the crew absolutely knew nothing about Rayman, despite being a part of Ubisoft. It’s like their only source of research was watching a couple of Rayman Let’s Plays on YouTube.

I really don’t wanna look forward to season 2.Who knows if they’re gonna make him this off branded Shadow The Hedgehog, whose whole personality is being angry and depressed. For once, I want them take a break from all the edge and have him act like Rayman for once. In my opinion, a 100% serious role does not work for Rayman, especially considering that he was never meant to be taken too seriously to begin with. Even a game like Rayman 2: The Great Escape knew not to do that.

You’re gonna have Rayman be serious? That’s cool. I support that. But if we’re gonna use Rayman, make him do something goofy or childish!

[StanceDance]

These designs just prove that the crew absolutely knew nothing about Rayman, despite being a part of Ubisoft. It’s like their only source of research was watching a couple of Rayman Let’s Plays on YouTube.

I really don’t wanna look forward to season 2.Who knows if they’re gonna make him this off branded Shadow The Hedgehog, whose whole personality is being angry and depressed. For once, I want them take a break from all the edge and have him act like Rayman for once. In my opinion, a 100% serious role does not work for Rayman, especially considering that he was never meant to be taken too seriously to begin with. Even a game like Rayman 2: The Great Escape knew not to do that.

You’re gonna have Rayman be serious? That’s cool. I support that. But if we’re gonna use Rayman, make him do something goofy or childish!

Exactly, i don't want Rayman to be a Hedgehog mixed with Inspector Gadget and Kurt Busch. I wanted Rayman to act like other Rayman tbh

[Big J]

Exactly, i don't want Rayman to be a Hedgehog mixed with Inspector Gadget and Kurt Busch. I wanted Rayman to act like other Rayman tbh

Yeah! Sort of like Sparks Of Hope Rayman; Angry, tired, done with life, but still holds that lovable dorky charisma and childlike enthusiasm.

Holy shit I just found out StanceDance is only 13 years old!

Why are they watching Captain Laserhawk?!

Why are they reading my fanfic rewrite?!

Why are they on this forum at all?!

[DaveRattlehead]

Holy shit I just found out StanceDance is only 13 years old!

Why are they watching Captain Laserhawk?!

Why are they reading my fanfic rewrite?!

Why are they on this forum at all?!

I'm not going to blame StanceDance. When I was 13 years old I had already played +18 games repeatedly .

Also, I would say that the forum is for all audiences (in fact, most of the veterans started here when they were teenagers), and while it's true that you put a warning, keep in mind that it's useless to put fences to the field.

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Your topic reminded me that there's a discussion topic about Captain Laserhawk in the forums. Feel free to share your thoughts there too

[Big J]

I don’t care. This topic page is not kids, and I want them fucking off. Next underaged user who shows up on this topic is getting listed for foe.

[Steo]

I used to watch South Park when I was 7, and play GTA when I was a kid (as did many of my friends / relatives). It's up to parents as to whether they allow their kids to be exposed to these things at the end of the day, nobody needs to blow a fuse over it, especially when it's not their place.

There's no rule against age restriction on RPC, and if you really feel like adding people to your foe list because they're young, then that's entirely up to you. No need to kick up a fuss though, you can just do the aforementioned without feeling the need to tell everyone.

It's appreciated that you advise viewers discretion, but that's as far as you need to go. Let's not be hostile towards others at the end of the day.

[Big J]

This is why many fans are either leaving or not as active on this forum.

[Hunchman801]

This is why many fans are either leaving or not as active on this forum.

Why? Because Steo is advocating friendliness with other members?

[DaveRattlehead]

I think Steo couldn't have explained it better. You have every right to include a warning as content unsuitable for minors, just as you have the right to include unwanted people on your foe list. We have no problem with you and your Ramon story (in fact, we encourage you to keep posting chapters, we are sure they can be very interesting for more than one person here and we support the creativity of the people in the forum), we are just asking you to please try to be friendly with the people here. I don't think it's too hard to understand this.

Feel free to continue posting chapters and stories about Ramon or Captain Laserhawk, but from now on, if you have any questions about the topic or any problems with someone specific, contact a moderator/administrador privately, we're not going to discuss the matter here again.

[Mortamon Saturn]

This is why many fans are either leaving or not as active on this forum.

Why? Because Steo is advocating friendliness with other members?

Wait, I finally recognize that person...
So... THIS was that alleged "really bad experience on that forum" that person told me about in DMs on another site last year!?
This totally fair and conciliatory response?

I first assumed that experience was in reference to some of the dramas that occured years ago that I heard from rumours... but THIS is what got this person to quit?
When it's him who was actually misbehaving, telling rude words to a minor, trying to police them and disrespecting the moderation team!?
Holy moly, that's so petty! This is an insult to anyone who genuinely suffered from terribly toxic behaviours online!


Same guy that I helped getting his work added on Rayfanpedia because he refused to return here/reuse his account because of that "oh so terrible" experience, to the point he wanted to remain anonymous...

Same guy who constantly made stereotypical jokes/imitations about my French nationality (becuz it's funi when itz for dem filthy Europeans!! ), and has prejudice against Ubisoft not just cuz they suck (which is true ), but because they're French ("hurt their poor little French egos", "greedy French hands", "These French folks should just make like their ancestors and surrender" [COME ON, you regurgitate one of the most unjust and insulting stereotypes from America, and you dare pretend to be progressive!? ])...

Same guy that uses one of my Rayman 2 images as a profile pic without credit, and "accidentally" took a Ray edit of mine for his R2 Redreamed promotional picture, which is very unprofessional for a partnership with New Dawn Games...

Same guy who made a barely attempted apology when I pointed out the Ray edit thing, and quickly proceeded to request my advice for something else he could have easily looked for by himself...

Same guy that kept messaging me on a weekly basis to spam me about his content, while pretending to like mine (which he actually didn't, by looking at notifications/likes of the released posts that prompted him to further DM me to farm views/positive attention)...

Same guy who, in many posts, acts toxic/rude, appears to have prejudice against certain groups (including minors like from the glimpse we saw here), and tries to police a lot of things artists and fans should do/think, and apparently views people who enjoy the UbiArt Nymphs' designs as an "incel audience"... (even as someone who openly criticizes what the nymphs are in Rayman and in a kid-friendly franchise... Y I K E S )

...And same guy who stated: "The Rayman Pirate Community is just Facebook for Rayman fans."



Welp, I'm glad that I ditched that person after all that! What else should I have expected from the average Tumblr user?
I've been way too kind, and yet again, I have to regret it...

Sorry to have resurrected that topic especially for this, but darn, the realization just hit me like thunder!

[lyndo64]

Getting mad at minors for being on a forum for a franchise primarily aimed at children, is pretty low imo. I don't hate this person, (I thought some of their song covers were actually pretty fun) but I basically agree with everything stated here, and I had no idea that this well ran so deep

Their reaction to (minors existing, I guess??) was absolutely not appropriate, and I still feel real bad for SD, he absolutely did not deserve that kind of treatment. The whole thing just felt like a bad look for RPC.

I still think about this thread sometimes, I'm just glad somebody broke the ice

[Giant Chicken]

Oh god, not this thread again... I always find it funny how stupid this whole overreaction was, especially over a CL fanfic of all things! It's really not even that explicit if you read it, and this whole situation just feels petty imo.

(Not gonna lie though, the Facebook comment made me laugh)

[Master]

...I'm reluctant to comment on this as I've made it a point of principle to stay the hell away from fandom drama after having seen my fair share of idiocy back when I was younger. But honestly, my two cents on this is if folks are giving grief like this better not to give them the time of day rather than an excuse to stir the pot further. I know we've had passive-aggressive jabs before from outside sources, and frankly I wonder why would you bother engaging with something that's inherently toxic and is only going to invite further toxicity?

I don't see much good that can come from airing open beef with someone who as far as anyone here is concerned, is a rando on a different site.

[lyndo64]

Yeah that's probably a good mindset to have in the situation, should this thread be locked? I don't anymore drama to be created than needed.

[Gottagocool11]

Jeez, what just happened?
As for this fanfic, i remember reading it and well, it's great, just that i didn't notice there's a forum centering around it.

[Mortamon Saturn]

...I'm reluctant to comment on this as I've made it a point of principle to stay the hell away from fandom drama after having seen my fair share of idiocy back when I was younger. But honestly, my two cents on this is if folks are giving grief like this better not to give them the time of day rather than an excuse to stir the pot further. I know we've had passive-aggressive jabs before from outside sources, and frankly I wonder why would you bother engaging with something that's inherently toxic and is only going to invite further toxicity?

I don't see much good that can come from airing open beef with someone who as far as anyone here is concerned, is a rando on a different site.

I do not intend to take the matter any further, this is the conclusion to my reaction.
I'm relieved that I got it off my mind, because otherwise it would have haunted the back of it for the next years as that's unfortunately how my brain is, and I hope this helped "breaking the ice" as lyndo said for some people who could still remember it too, otherwise I'm very sorry if it brought back bad memories for anyone...


Regarding said person, I'm sticking to the good ol' block button since I shared this, and I would have done so much sooner if I had known about their misconduct right away.
I realized all of that far too late with many of the things I reported being from either the final half of my engagement with their DMs last year, to just a few days ago for the final details when I accidentally stumbled upon the guy elsewhere.

They first came across as someone quite nice who came to me because they noticed I was a Rayfanpedia admin, and who wrote some fun and creative R1/2 songs (even if I didn't appreciate the forced self-promotion)...
I was also going through an extremely agonizing time of my life in 2024 and I had too many preoccupations to pay attention to the ""little faults"" in their DMs. I rarely have people getting me into private discussions as some introvert quite shy on social interactions (which is why I usually turn off my DMs for strangers on social media), and I felt I was just doing my duty as a Rayfanpedia administrator being seemingly one of the rare persons they could approach to answer their questions and help them in that situation considering their "past experience" regarding RPC...

Then I saw this and everything clicked together... This whole thing felt very unjust in my eyes.
Maybe that's one of my character flaws and it was pointlessly wrong to bring an additional input this late, but I'm not the type that'd rather stay silent when I see my trust has been betrayed and when I realize that this extended to much more than my little person, and so I testified.


I'm not going to add anything else regarding them, and in fact I've been purposely vague on a lot of my testimony also refraining from adding screenshots or more points, because I don't want anyone to launch any sort of drama or hate campaign out ot this, toxicity is never right.
I invite everyone to leave that person alone, and if they do pester you as they did to me, ignore/block them. If anyone else really feel the need to speak out if you experienced anything similar, it'd be better to keep it between us in DMs from now on.



In the end, I mostly want my response to serve as a reminder to everyone in the community to exercise extreme caution with people online as they can be willing to abuse your trust and kindness. Some are way too talented at putting on a facade of friendliness...
Always take the time to carefully check their claims when they accost you, or the sort of person they can be from the things they express, otherwise you may come to regret it later once you realize the truth...

Heck, you should even doubt me as well! I never intend to be malicious, but you, you're not inside my mind to be sure of that!
I do occasionally make mistakes in my own behaviours (as Steo could testify from a recent example in the GBC Chromatic topic, poor guy really can't catch a break with overreactions, sorry again! ), and perhaps even my response here counts as one!
I'm someone who never got to properly construct myself socially from being either ostracized or harassed in my youth, and thus I'm very bad at expressing myself or deciding if I should speak out or not (and that's also why I write 5 awkward paragraphs of verbose for anything when it could be phrased in like 10 words ). If there may be anything that I do or say that happen to feel wrong in your eyes, point it out right away, I don't want to make anyone feel bad!

Stay safe, everyone!

[Hunchman801]

Yes, this here is the terrible experience with RPC Jesse has been talking about on YouTube, Tumblr and Discord ever since. A moderator kindly asking them to be more friendly to other members.

It is worth nothing that, as I wanted to avoid another case of someone spreading disinformation about RPC all over the place, I reached out to them directly after this, but they wouldn't hear anything. This, however, temporarily led me to an obscure Discord server they managed, where I saw some unequivocally antisemitic posts. I'm not too surprised to hear about the xenophobic abuse you were met with after that.

I don't like unearthing old drama either, but given the speed at which disinformation spreads nowadays, I think it's important that we are able to clarify the situation for anyone unfortunate enough to stumble on such baseless accusations.

[Master]

Ah fair enough then, I didn't realise this involved more than just remote potshots. I don't think we ought to be dragged into needless drama but I understand if it's in the circumstance of being misrepresented.