Sonic the Hedgehog

[Reese Riverson]

Oh hey, they released a trailer for it finally. I won't be watching it in theaters though, since I much rather wait for the Bluray disc to release so I can enjoy it on my home theater setup.

It does seem rather interesting so far, but I'll reserve any opinions once I can actually see it.

[Greengoop]

Is your setup even better than a movie screen then

[Reese Riverson]

Is your setup even better than a movie screen then

Considering I use an OLED TV alone, yes, the sound system, we'll I'll let you see for yourself in my post here.

Some pictures are outdated since I've gotten things changed around, but I'll update things later.

[Greengoop]

Wow, you must’ve worked really hard on it! How much did it cost overall?

[pompom454]

OLED

OLED!? I much rather prefer LCD. I want Sonic in his true colors. Even his car in the All-Stars Racing Transformed game on PS Vita. I only played the demo on my Vita (2000, non-OLED, but longer battery and 1 gig of storage without need of memory card), but it's fun.

[Reese Riverson]

OLED!? I much rather prefer LCD. I want Sonic in his true colors. Even his car in the All-Stars Racing Transformed game on PS Vita. I only played the demo on my Vita (2000, non-OLED, but longer battery and 1 gig of storage without need of memory card), but it's fun.

Yes, OLED, you get superior color qualities out of OLED than you do LCD. Especially since there's the contrast ratio factor in the mix, which OLED has no problems with since when a pixel is off, it's a perfect black. Where as LCD's rely on a backlight that can have a backlight bleed. That's not even factoring in inherit latency issues you have with LCD panels, where OLED is more CRT like in speed.

So yeah, Sonic will be in his true colors when I watch it on my setup.

[Greengoop]

Looking at your setup… how much did it cost in total?

[Steo]

OLED is very much superior when it comes to modern display technologies. You can't even compare an LCD to one anymore, at least not if you watch it in a dark room. I don't accept anything else but OLED when it comes to TVs nowadays, and I even bought one when I went to Sweden. OLED ftw!

[lyndo64]

That setup is amazing! Although nothing beats the experience of a real theater imo

[Greengoop]

That setup is amazing! Although nothing beats the experience of a real theater imo

Especially with a big container of popcorn and a coke

[pompom454]

Yes, OLED, you get superior color qualities out of OLED than you do LCD. Especially since there's the contrast ratio factor in the mix, which OLED has no problems with since when a pixel is off, it's a perfect black. Where as LCD's rely on a backlight that can have a backlight bleed. That's not even factoring in inherit latency issues you have with LCD panels, where OLED is more CRT like in speed.

So yeah, Sonic will be in his true colors when I watch it on my setup.

Okay. But OLED makes colors more vibrant. Say you're playing Sly Cooper on the Vita 1000, and you enjoy it. But then you see that he looks more purple than blue, though him having blue clothes was advertised. Strange, huh? Also, while researching OLED, it's prone to moisture, which can damage the screen. It also has less of a lifespan, having ~100,000 hours of usage before going dim. It also can't display very brightly compared to LCD. Last thing, LCD, with the delay, creates motion blur. Cool, ain't it?
So, LCD may be prone to fall damage, but OLED is prone to many things. Even just using it is enough to hurt it just slightly.

[Reese Riverson]

Okay. But OLED makes colors more vibrant. Say you're playing Sly Cooper on the Vita 1000, and you enjoy it. But then you see that he looks more purple than blue, though him having blue clothes was advertised. Strange, huh? Also, while researching OLED, it's prone to moisture, which can damage the screen. It also has less of a lifespan, having ~100,000 hours of usage before going dim. It also can't display very brightly compared to LCD. Last thing, LCD, with the delay, creates motion blur. Cool, ain't it?
So, LCD may be prone to fall damage, but OLED is prone to many things. Even just using it is enough to hurt it just slightly.

You're joking, right? All of the OLED displays I've owned, mobile, TV, console, my computer monitor, and even my professional video monitor, blue is blue, not purple. I've had zero issues with moisture with any of my screens either. Lifespan and brightness are just a tradeoff, and my OLEDs get plenty bright since I don't use them in a heavily sunlit room.

Motion blur is also a bad thing, and it's incredibly annoying when you play fast paced games and get a mess of motion blur.

I don't know why you're hating on the technology so much, but it's seriously your loss, man. LCD's just can't work as well as OLEDs. It's a limitation of the technology that is long overdue for a good replacement.



But anyway, moving on...

It sounds like one of my friends plans to catch Sonic 3 in the theaters, so I'm sure he'll give me his impression when he sees it.

[ItzalDrake]

Considering I use an OLED TV alone, yes, the sound system, we'll I'll let you see for yourself in my post here.

Some pictures are outdated since I've gotten things changed around, but I'll update things later.

Wow, this is the best audio setup I've ever seen!
I see that you take audio quality very seriously, while I'm happy with just an old pair of 14€ Sony headphones.

[Greengoop]

My earbuds cost about £15 and they’re decent. I wouldn’t spend a lot on headphones though

[Steo]

Okay. But OLED makes colors more vibrant. Say you're playing Sly Cooper on the Vita 1000, and you enjoy it. But then you see that he looks more purple than blue, though him having blue clothes was advertised. Strange, huh? Also, while researching OLED, it's prone to moisture, which can damage the screen. It also has less of a lifespan, having ~100,000 hours of usage before going dim. It also can't display very brightly compared to LCD. Last thing, LCD, with the delay, creates motion blur. Cool, ain't it?
So, LCD may be prone to fall damage, but OLED is prone to many things. Even just using it is enough to hurt it just slightly.

None of the arguments made above about OLED are either sensible, nor valid. You must have gotten the absolute lowest end of an "AMOLED" screen from an ancient Samsung phone or something, and that's not the same as the OLED we are talking about nowadays. My Vita's never looked like you are describing, I don't know if you're truly seeing the wrong colours, or you just read some bogus article somewhere and decided to believe it. Either way, the Vita screen is a lot older than any OLED you would see nowadays, and shouldn't even be compared.

Have you ever used an OLED TV? It doesn't have to be over-saturated if you actually calibrate it properly instead of using stupidly overly vibrant settings like "dynamic" or "vivid" which a lot of TVs have out of the box for some stupid reason (maybe a marketing strategy to be like "hey look how colourful this is, it stands out"). Almost every LCD ships in the same way, with ridiculous colour settings.

The only TV I ever had that was purple instead of blue was an old LCD TV, where someone had clearly messed with the service menu on it. If your OLED really looks like that, then there's something wrong with it. OLED is superior technology and that's why it costs more. The argument that motion blur is good is just completely nonsensical, motion blur is caused by high response time, and high response time = bad. If you have a screen with about 20ms response time, then it's not very good and only realistically covers about 40fps, with the rest literally being a blur. Motion blur as a setting in games, maybe if that's your cup of tea then fine (I personally hate it), but you can't try to call a bad display superior due to having crappy response times.

If it "hurts" to look at your screen, you definitely need to turn down the backlight (or OLED light). No point using the wrong settings that aren't suitable for your environment and then saying the technology is flawed due to it.

Also, when it comes to how long they last, you go get yourself an OLED TV and LCD TV and leave them both running for years, then see which one outlasts the other, if you really have the time and money. Several LCDs fail due to their backlight, which an OLED doesn't need because it's self lit.

I won't be arguing about it but I'm just saying that nothing you said makes any sense. You can't use one OLED screen and then try to say they are all the same. Don't compare a Vita screen to the selection of OLED technology available today either, that's from over 10 years ago and it makes very little sense to use this as a base.

EDIT: That being said, I still have a few good LCD displays, given the price of OLED. My main TV at my partner's place is OLED and it's objectively better in every single way, especially for being used in a dark room.

[Reese Riverson]

Also, when it comes to how long they last, you go get yourself an OLED TV and LCD TV and leave them both running for years, then see which one outlasts the other, if you really have the time and money. Several LCDs fail due to their backlight, which an OLED doesn't need because it's self lit.

I won't be arguing about it but I'm just saying that nothing you said makes any sense. You can't use one OLED screen and then try to say they are all the same. Don't compare a Vita screen to the selection of OLED technology available today either, that's from over 10 years ago and it makes very little sense to use this as a base.

And to add, my OLED from 2015 still looks fantastic, I only got a new one because I wanted 4k + HDR.

For adding to the LCD failure, here's a good article:
https://www.rtings.com/research/thin-lc ... longed-use

Oh, and good luck watching Sonic speed around on laggy LCD panels when you're consuming any of the games, since y'know, motion blur is bad.

[lyndo64]

Also, when it comes to how long they last, you go get yourself an OLED TV and LCD TV and leave them both running for years, then see which one outlasts the other, if you really have the time and money. Several LCDs fail due to their backlight, which an OLED doesn't need because it's self lit.

I won't be arguing about it but I'm just saying that nothing you said makes any sense. You can't use one OLED screen and then try to say they are all the same. Don't compare a Vita screen to the selection of OLED technology available today either, that's from over 10 years ago and it makes very little sense to use this as a base.

And to add, my OLED from 2015 still looks fantastic, I only got a new one because I wanted 4k + HDR.

For adding to the LCD failure, here's a good article:
https://www.rtings.com/research/thin-lc ... longed-use

Oh, and good luck watching Sonic speed around on laggy LCD panels when you're consuming any of the games, since y'know, motion blur is bad.

This feels weirdly hostile, am I missing something?

(Edit: I read through the previous posts and I now understand the context, sorry if I came across as a bit hostile in this reply )

[Steo]

This feels weirdly hostile, am I missing something?

Nobody was being hostile, and assuming so doesn't make much sense, am I missing something?

To be fair, people shouldn't spread misinformation about technology.

[Master]

I think as an onlooker the responses felt a bit harsh in tone, but I don't think there was any hostile intent.

At any rate, I'm looking forward to the Shadow renaissance, though I maintain Sega are cowards for not giving him a gun.

[lyndo64]

I think as an onlooker the responses felt a bit harsh in tone, but I don't think there was any hostile intent.

At any rate, I'm looking forward to the Shadow renaissance, though I maintain Sega are cowards for not giving him a gun.

I see, my bad!