Any official source saying R1 and RO magician are the same?

[Greengoop]

And who was the culprit behind that one?

[ArcaneDarkling]

Could you pinpoint where in the script those lines from Murfy are? They seem pretty clear, but I've never actually looked at that document before, and it's torture to search!

Sorry for taking so long to answer, I'm not an expert with this forum, so I don't know how to share pictures haha! The script, it's on the second page, you should be able to see some dev comments in french and the dialogue written in Pig Latin (if you scroll to the left you can read the translations, however they cut off most of the time)

In case that's too difficult, however, someone on tumblr was nice enough to give me a more organized and easier to read version! of course it's not entirely one to one, but sharing it for convenience's sake!

[EdgyRabbid]

Yeah, was always confused about why these two were on the same wiki page... seemed like they were different people with different lore.

[Greengoop]

It appears the page hasn’t been split yet. When will that be?

[Master]

My thinking was leave it open for a month, though there does seem to be an overwhelming majority on splitting...

[EdgyRabbid]

I agree on splinting the wikis! It would cause less confusion.

[Hunchman801]

Indeed, the goal is to give everyone the opportunity to voice their thoughts, as it's a fairly important subject wiki-wise. Given the overwhelming majority so far and the complete lack of evidence that both characters are one and the same, I think we'll be moving forward with the split very soon. It's just a lot of work as this needs to be harmonized across 8 different languages, but we'll get there eventually.

[Greengoop]

Do you think we should run a poll on this thread until October 31st?

[Hunchman801]

Not really, that sounds redundant with the wiki talk page for the most part.

[The Jonster]

Yeah it seems most people here are ok with the split at any rate.

[Greengoop]

I was honestly surprised seeing it hasn’t happened yet

[The Jonster]

Well as Hunch said, you're free to edit the wiki if you'd like to!

[Greengoop]

Can I change the rayman (character) page name to rayman legends (character)

[ArcaneDarkling]

This indicates that the developers' intention was for the heroes not to realize that they're dealing with a Teensie as long as he hat his hat on, and therefore that, in the final game, the end of level sequences should not be interpreted as revealing anything of the sort to the heroes. That's dumb as fuck, because once again, it's obvious to the player that it's a Teensie, but then again, Rayman Origins so poorly written that it shouldn't come as a surprise. At least, at some point during the game's development, the writers were happy with this kind of storytelling.

I like to think of it as more of a "A Platypus?" "Perry The Platypus!" kinda joke, and considering how Origins tried to go for a cartoon-ish style I think it makes a bit of sense? but yeaaaa the writing was pretty... sketchy.

[Greengoop]

It reminds me of Jessie and James’ stupid disguises in the Pokémon anime that ash fell for every time

[Master]

The Dark Teensies having their own motto does actually feel in line with their characters come to think of it...

[EdgyRabbid]

When i played Origins with my brother i didnt even notice Ales, My brother just thought his hat was cool.

[Greengoop]

When i played Origins with my brother i didnt even notice Ales, My brother just thought his hat was cool.

Feel weird to think many more people are gonna call him ales from now on

[Hunchman801]

Well, it's still cut content but yeah, maybe some people will find that easier than saying "the Teensy Magician" or "the Magician from Origins".

[Greengoop]

I call him “the dark teensy” even though it isn’t the correct name