General Pokémon Thread

[EdgyRabbid]

What do you mean by that exactly?

[Master]

As in, a used copy of SwSh may turn out to not be that much different to a used copy of SV, even though they're about 3 years apart. Go for even older gens and they can actually be more expensive than they were at release.

[EdgyRabbid]

Ah! WEll im still gonna get myself a copy of shield..

[Master]

Fair enough, SwSh takes place in the Galar region which is themed after the UK so I'd be interested to see how you find it.

[EdgyRabbid]

The united kingdom... why is one of their starters a lizard?

[Greengoop]

I don’t know why, maybe they just ran out of ideas! And yes, some of the areas do resemble the Victorian villages/towns we have here quite a lot!

[EdgyRabbid]

Really? Just another thing to not be surpirsed by when i take Rayman on our honeymoon!

[Pirez]

Do i get gen 8 or gen 9?

Generation 8 will probably be cheaper second hand at this point.

Second hand Nintendo games? Cheap? Oh you poor soul.

The united kingdom... why is one of their starters a lizard?

Because British people are essentially in a state of always crawling under their guilt due to them leaving the EU.

[Greengoop]

Because British people are essentially in a state of always crawling under their guilt due to them leaving the EU.

Exactly! And the monkey starter is fairly obvious

[The Jonster]

I see, so you are guilty for your silly actions on this forum

I'm a little biased, but if I were to recommend a Generation between 4-6, it'd be 5. I'll admit I've not played 6, so this opinion is partially formed by hearsay, but I feel like Gen 5 felt like it was the last time Game Freak had the time and capability to properly "cook" as it were. Gen 4 was great, but being on the same hardware, Gen 5 could refine and expand on what Gen 4 did, and it's impressive just how much more detailed and improved Gen 5 is compared to Gen 4 bearing that in mind.

Gen 6 from what I've seen, never really got the chance to properly shine, from what I've heard and seen it felt like all of Gen 6's games felt like they were missing a little something. Gen 7 wasn't much better mind...

Heh, I like that answer, since admittedly I'm much more interested in playing Gen 5 than the other 2. Plus a few of my favorite Pokemon lines is in this generation group. I'd probably go with White first, then Black 2/White 2.

[PluMGMK]

The united kingdom... why is one of their starters a lizard?

Because British people are essentially in a state of always crawling under their guilt due to them leaving the EU.

Guilt? Or frustration that it hasn't been borne out properly? Cause you might think the latter based on the Torygraph and Daily Fail's front pages yesterday…

[Master]

Considering who's leading the polls presently, I'd be wary of saying much introspection's happened...

[The Jonster]

Haha, Colosseum was my game and my sister was definitely the Gale of Darkness girl when we were kids! But I've always wanted to try this game and I did eventually, just haven't quite finished it fully yet (as in finished the last round of the Orre Colosseum).

That's interesting! I wonder if siblings split these games often? If my memory serves right, which it almost never does...In Gale Of Darkness, I'm currently at Phenac City. It's been like a year or something so I dunno. (Sometimes games wind up on pause, don't get me started on Spirit Tracks. I left that sitting near the end when I could've easily steamrolled it...For about 5 something years. )

Oh i do this with games very often. If another one catches my attention, i switch to it immediately and forget about the other one. The downside is, by the time I get back to it, there's a chance I delete the file and start over since I had no idea what I was doing when I stopped.

Definitely one of the better things about Gale of Darkness! Don't have to wait for ages to try and catch a shadow pokemon i somehow missed! Although that usually isn't a problem with me since, being a perfectionist I am, I always resetted everytime I failed to catch a Shadow Pokemon. You can imagine how long then it took me to actually finish Colosseum, with its six straight battles of Shadow Pokemon (oh and did I mention the last 2 battles were sudden jumps in levels so they catch me off guard)

Hey, I reset when I fail to catch a Shadow Mon too! Though who wouldn't? And believe me, I'm a little nervous about Gale's final battles... Though watching Chronic rip Colosseums up was always a blast. I was always cheering her on. I just hope it goes as smoothly for me when it's my turn to take on Gale's Colosseums.

You know what, this is not that bad at all. The nicknaming doesn't bother me too much cuz I wasn't one of those people who nickname their Pokemon (I know, shocker right?). The consistent struggle with opposing Pokemon is real though, even when I spent time training in other areas I would still have to use multiple seeds due to how annoyingly accurate the enemies are and how much I missed. I do like the story overall, but I see where you're coming from in that it's upcycled from other games (especially the second game, which I could say the entire second half of the story for SPMD mirrors in a sense)

Man, I can relate to the constant struggle. I picked Torchic and Chikorita, since they were my duo in MD Blue. (In Sky it was Riolu and Eevee. Two mons with bite was pretty helpful!) But yeah, what an uphill battle Super MD was...And I'll admit, I was surprised that you don't nickname your mons, that always seemed to be half of the fun of it. But sometimes it's hard to think of anything good. Or not silly. And having to think of 100+ nicknames...I really can't blame you. I just grab my 6 and go for it, so I don't need to think of very many nicknames. And it tends to be the same 6 mons, so even less thinking is required.

I tend to make several files (I use emulation) and then create a different team each time, so I dont' really have a personal starter team for any of the PMD games. As a kid I never gave nicknames cuz I always liked the names each Pokemon had. These days though I wouldn't mind giving nicknames, but there's like so many Pokemon for me to recruit and nicknaming them all would be...a very long process.

These days, Flareon would be tied with Vaporeon for my 2nd pick of Eeveelution in that game. Overall I'd say Flareon would hover around 4th-6th on my list along with Umbreon and Vaporeon.

Flareon's a personal choice for me, actually. You see, I have 2 other siblings, Chronic and my bro. We had Yellow, Red and Blue, so we all split up the Eeveelutions. Chronic had Yellow and picked Jolteon, and my brother had Red and picked Vaporeon. And obviously I had Blue and chose Flareon. (Though my Flareon wasn't the gift Eevee, it was a secondary unnamable Eevee with no visible name that glitched into my PC. But hey, I got to keep an Eevee and have a Flareon too! Too bad I didn't realize my game's battery was leaking/melting.)

So in Gale, is Jolteon your top pick? Or Espeon maybe?

Because I played Colosseum before Gale of Darkness, both Umbreon and Espeon are usually off the table for me. My first pick for my file would be Jolteon! It's always been one of my favorite Eeveelutions.

[CosmicStrider]

That's interesting! I wonder if siblings split these games often? If my memory serves right, which it almost never does...In Gale Of Darkness, I'm currently at Phenac City. It's been like a year or something so I dunno. (Sometimes games wind up on pause, don't get me started on Spirit Tracks. I left that sitting near the end when I could've easily steamrolled it...For about 5 something years. )

Come to think of it, I haven't completed Spirit Tracks 100%...Because I beat the last boss and uh, let it sit some more.

Oh i do this with games very often. If another one catches my attention, i switch to it immediately and forget about the other one. The downside is, by the time I get back to it, there's a chance I delete the file and start over since I had no idea what I was doing when I stopped.

I don't usually delete a file, since even though my memory is swiss-cheese half the time, I can remember some things crystal clear. So it's really like my memory is selective...But I can usually remember what I was doing via my progress or items, or if the game has a "Hey! Do this thing!" NPC or menu thing. It's really rare I delete any data or sell games. Selling games only happens if it's a triple agreement between my siblings and I.

I tend to make several files (I use emulation) and then create a different team each time, so I dont' really have a personal starter team for any of the PMD games. As a kid I never gave nicknames cuz I always liked the names each Pokemon had. These days though I wouldn't mind giving nicknames, but there's like so many Pokemon for me to recruit and nicknaming them all would be...a very long process.

Nothing wrong with emulation, if the game's super old. Though I have a bit too many randomized Explorers Of Sky runs, but they're a lotta fun! I use Sky Temple Randomizer to gen runs. Never a dull moment in those. But I have kept them sitting around for a while. It's gonna be another rainy day, maybe I could pick one up and mess around with it.

Because I played Colosseum before Gale of Darkness, both Umbreon and Espeon are usually off the table for me. My first pick for my file would be Jolteon! It's always been one of my favorite Eeveelutions.

Ah, so I was right! Probably not a bad choice, either. Jolteon and Vaporeon were the original duo team for Gale, after all.

[The Jonster]

Oh i do this with games very often. If another one catches my attention, i switch to it immediately and forget about the other one. The downside is, by the time I get back to it, there's a chance I delete the file and start over since I had no idea what I was doing when I stopped.

I don't usually delete a file, since even though my memory is swiss-cheese half the time, I can remember some things crystal clear. So it's really like my memory is selective...But I can usually remember what I was doing via my progress or items, or if the game has a "Hey! Do this thing!" NPC or menu thing. It's really rare I delete any data or sell games. Selling games only happens if it's a triple agreement between my siblings and I.

Darn! I wish my memory was that good, then I wouldn't have to keep restarting all the time (and trust, me I've had a ton of those in multiple games)

Because I played Colosseum before Gale of Darkness, both Umbreon and Espeon are usually off the table for me. My first pick for my file would be Jolteon! It's always been one of my favorite Eeveelutions.

Ah, so I was right! Probably not a bad choice, either. Jolteon and Vaporeon were the original duo team for Gale, after all.

Oh that I wasn't aware of. Sweetness! But wait where is poor Flareon in these two games??? JUSTICE FOR FLAREON!!

[Steo]

I really want to play Pokémon again soon. I haven't played any of the games in some time, even the first or second gen that I played as a kid would be so fun right now. I need to actually try catch every Pokémon in a gen instead of just completing it. I would have to each copy of the game to trade, but that would be ok. Shame my copy of Blue went missing due to a childhood friend, but thankfully my first game (yellow) is still with me after all these years.

[CosmicStrider]

Oh that I wasn't aware of. Sweetness! But wait where is poor Flareon in these two games??? JUSTICE FOR FLAREON!!

Yeah, that's kinda beta stuff. With a But that's another reason why I picked Flareon, since it was kinda...Left out? My big reason why is because it was the eeveelution I picked in Pokémon Blue. That's a for-life kinda choice for me. And I really couldn't see myself using any of the other choices. (I don't care if it doesn't have moves, I don't need that many to win! )

As for the early starters in Gale, Jolteon had...

Quick Attack, Sand-Attack, Helping Hand and Thundershock. Clearly filling in for Espeon's support role.

Vaporeon's moveset was...

Helping Hand, Water Gun, Quick Attack and Bite. Obviously the attacker starting out, like Umberon. So it's basically backwards from Colosseum.

The early starters in question. I figured I'd post it here.
(Click to enlarge so you don't have to squint!)

But anyways, Gale was probably more like Colosseum starting out. Kinda weird they cut it down to one eeveelution in the final. Though I suppose that makes sense when you're not running all doubles? But like...Why didn't they just hand you two eevee's to just pick whatever combinations?

I really want to play Pokémon again soon. I haven't played any of the games in some time, even the first or second gen that I played as a kid would be so fun right now. I need to actually try catch every Pokémon in a gen instead of just completing it. I would have to each copy of the game to trade, but that would be ok. Shame my copy of Blue went missing due to a childhood friend, but thankfully my first game (yellow) is still with me after all these years.

Oof, I feel that. Had a brat up the street steal my Mystery Dungeon Blue when I was a kid. They wiped my save file too, which sucked royally as I'd just recruited Groudon, so I'd just gotten all the legendary mons. His mom bought me another copy, but that damage was done. And besides, eventually I got Explorers Of Sky, which was MASSIVE. I believe at some other point we lost Pokémon Platinum to some thieving kids from another block as well? But my bro had Diamond so it wasn't a major loss. And well, I got Soul Silver, Y, and Alpha Sapphire over time.

So yeah, I'm glad the whole thing of kids coming over to our house to play is long over. It's really nice to not have to worry about thieving brats stealing stuff.

If anything I oughta get back to training on Fire Red soon. I'm just a really lazy trainer nowadays.

[Steo]

Oof, I feel that. Had a brat up the street steal my Mystery Dungeon Blue when I was a kid. They wiped my save file too, which sucked royally as I'd just recruited Groudon, so I'd just gotten all the legendary mons. His mom bought me another copy, but that damage was done. And besides, eventually I got Explorers Of Sky, which was MASSIVE. I believe at some other point we lost Pokémon Platinum to some thieving kids from another block as well? But my bro had Diamond so it wasn't a major loss. And well, I got Soul Silver, Y, and Alpha Sapphire over time.

So yeah, I'm glad the whole thing of kids coming over to our house to play is long over. It's really nice to not have to worry about thieving brats stealing stuff.

If anything I oughta get back to training on Fire Red soon. I'm just a really lazy trainer nowadays.

You were lucky they were nice enough to get you another copy. I remember I actually had a copy of Diablo on PS1 that my friend owned, and my parents told me to keep it since he lost my game. That ended in well, us not getting along as much as we once did, and his parents never letting me in his house again for "stealing from them". Even when I was like 5 years older, his mother still apparently pulled him to one side and said "why is he here". It all happened as if he didn't lose my game? That didn't make sense at all, you'd think they would say "find the game or you're grounded" and then buy me a new copy or something. That would be what sensible parents would do.

Anyway, it's a little funny to think of the time he had Pokémon Red, before this all happened. I started removing and reinserting the game when the Game Boy was on (I was like 8 iirc). I was laughing about how it kept making the Game Boy restart and do weird things. I told him what I was doing, and he said "don't do that, I lost my save before over that". So I let it boot to the menu and seen that it just said "NEW GAME". I kind of tried to say nothing and smile awkwardly as I handed him the Game Boy. He screamed my first name extremely loudly when he seen that there was no save.

It's even funnier now that he lost my game though.

[The Jonster]

People stealing your games? Yuck! I've only had two experiences of people stealing from me. My ex-neighbor, who wanted to "borrow" my Mario Kart DS game and never gave it back to me because she lost it. And my cousin who lived north from me "borrowed" my Mario Party DS game as a kid, and when I asked about it later, she had sold it off, and to this day I don't speak to her (plus i heard weird rumors about her family, so gonna just back away from that). Not that I was much better in the past, since I did the same back then to my sister and cousin and then don't give it back for who-knows-how-long!

I really want to play Pokémon again soon. I haven't played any of the games in some time, even the first or second gen that I played as a kid would be so fun right now. I need to actually try catch every Pokémon in a gen instead of just completing it. I would have to each copy of the game to trade, but that would be ok. Shame my copy of Blue went missing due to a childhood friend, but thankfully my first game (yellow) is still with me after all these years.

Me neither, actually. I still haven't bothered to finish Shield or Violet, mainly because I had to borrow my sister's Sword and Scarlet to transfer Pokemon between those versions. Catching every Pokemon in a gen is a nice goal to have. It's much easier these days than trying to get every Pokemon in existence, which these days is pretty much impossible. Makes me wonder, when's the last time they used that ol' slogan of "Gotta Catch Them All!"

Oof, I feel that. Had a brat up the street steal my Mystery Dungeon Blue when I was a kid. They wiped my save file too, which sucked royally as I'd just recruited Groudon, so I'd just gotten all the legendary mons. His mom bought me another copy, but that damage was done. And besides, eventually I got Explorers Of Sky, which was MASSIVE. I believe at some other point we lost Pokémon Platinum to some thieving kids from another block as well? But my bro had Diamond so it wasn't a major loss. And well, I got Soul Silver, Y, and Alpha Sapphire over time.

So yeah, I'm glad the whole thing of kids coming over to our house to play is long over. It's really nice to not have to worry about thieving brats stealing stuff.

If anything I oughta get back to training on Fire Red soon. I'm just a really lazy trainer nowadays.

Ohhhh, all legendary mons? I wonder if you got all mythical ones too? I have an actual Mystery Dungeon Blue that I haven't started but from my own experience with certain dungeons, I'll probably not get those for awhile...unless I ask for help in the Discord group i'm a part of but never speak in (I mean i could use my emulators to save me for real, but then where's the fun in that?). I'm glad that Time/Darkness/Sky only relegated special items to these kinds of dungeons instead of special Pokemon. I tend to try to walk into places overprepared and overleveled all the time so I would suck horribly at most dungeons with restrictions.

[CosmicStrider]

You were lucky they were nice enough to get you another copy. I remember I actually had a copy of Diablo on PS1 that my friend owned, and my parents told me to keep it since he lost my game. That ended in well, us not getting along as much as we once did, and his parents never letting me in his house again for "stealing from them". Even when I was like 5 years older, his mother still apparently pulled him to one side and said "why is he here". It all happened as if he didn't lose my game? That didn't make sense at all, you'd think they would say "find the game or you're grounded" and then buy me a new copy or something. That would be what sensible parents would do.

Anyway, it's a little funny to think of the time he had Pokémon Red, before this all happened. I started removing and reinserting the game when the Game Boy was on (I was like 8 iirc). I was laughing about how it kept making the Game Boy restart and do weird things. I told him what I was doing, and he said "don't do that, I lost my save before over that". So I let it boot to the menu and seen that it just said "NEW GAME". I kind of tried to say nothing and smile awkwardly as I handed him the Game Boy. He screamed my first name extremely loudly when he seen that there was no save.

It's even funnier now that he lost my game though.

You're right, I was lucky they were nice enough to get me a second copy. I gave it to Chronic since I'd basically already completed it.

...Wait wait, your friend lost your game, and your parents told you to keep your friends' game? Huh? Why didn't you just give it back? Or would they not let you?...Is there still a rift between you guys from the whole "You stole my game and wiped my save" thing?

And you were 8. I can't blame you for messing with a Gameboy. When I was a kid and my Blue game really started to hit the sh--, I didn't think twice about my game freezing up and playing weird glitchy songs. I just went "Oop, something's wrong. Better reset the GBC." That whole battery leak started because of the S.S Anne actually...The textbox "The ship set sail." haunts me a bit when I see it. (I'm kidding, but it does make me reminisce about what that all set off.)

You see, we were kids with a lot of free time. And I usually spent it playing outside, or playing video games. My siblings and I were lucky to get our own copies and versions of Pokémon. We'd play em' at daycare. In the car. At home. In the hallway. Everywhere and all the time. My in-game time was around 83 hours. I got all the badges a while ago, and would just wander about catching stuff. I met that glitchy Eevee and made it a Flareon, and then a lotta other stuff happened over time, and then my game kinda wouldn't let me actually play it at around 300 in-game hours. I didn't know my battery was leaking, but it probably corroded some stuff. That ship never came back either. I just wanted to see if it did, if enough time passed! Also, since I had a team of level 100's via that leaky battery and a glitchy Flareon, I figured I didn't need to fight the elite four or the champ to reach the hall of fame. I was already way above them.

Funnily enough I could still use my Pokémon in Pokémon Stadium 1 & 2. Fast forward a bit and my team of free level 100's won the Prime Cup and took down Mewtwo. I was so proud of them!

But anyways, yeah. Not knowing better happens! Kids are kids.

Another example, my lil' bro as a kid thought it was a great idea to catch a ton of Missing No's on his Red game. That did not end well. He hasn't had much luck since with any copy of Red. (I thought he got bad luck from playing around with Missing No on his original copy. ) His 3rd copy seems fine though.

Makes me wonder, when's the last time they used that ol' slogan of "Gotta Catch Them All!"

Ohhhh, all legendary mons? I wonder if you got all mythical ones too?

Ah, um...I just call them legendaries. I'm kinda old-fashioned.

As for the "Gotta Catch Em' All" thing...Yeah no, that's a HUGE ask. There's more than a thousand now practically. I mean, I see the slogan on Saffron City when I play Smash Bros 64 with my sibs, and I think: ((Gotta catch em' all? Yeah, there was time you could!))

And Zero Isle, heck any restricted dungeon is rough. Honestly, we had a DS game shark at the time and each of us just did whatever we wanted. My bro did some wild stuff on Diamond with that game shark. Yeah sure, why not teach a Groudon to fly or a Pikachu to explode? It's nuts to see that stuff in-game or on Pokemon Battle Revolution!