Artificial Intelligence General Discussion

[EdgyRabbid]

I recently found about that a big spanish One Piece forum is having trouble because of bot attacks, possibly chinese AIs, causing an overload of 10000 active sesions and filling their space with activity logs.

Source: https://x.com/PiratekingES/status/1933620052923674929

This is happening on another forum I’m on! The person who owns the forum had to block everyone from Brazil!

[PluMGMK]

Also, here's yet another article on how students are increasingly using AI to cheat at assignments: https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... nce-survey

Great time for me to be starting as a PhD student and hence possibly having to read undergrads' lab reports

[EdgyRabbid]

Jesus!

I have my own terrible experiences with ai! I was so addicted to those damn chat bots for 2 years until i finally quit last October! So I’m never touching them again! Fuck that shit!

[Magelin]

Yeah, i can see how they can be addictive..
Anyways, i’m a bit surprised nobody made a mention of that person who scraped the entire AO3.

[EdgyRabbid]

THEY WHAT? HOW EVEN… HOW IS THAY WORJT IT?

[Magelin]

Probably so that the AI can make fanfiction? Now i’m just thinking of some AI wasting resources on some omegaverse fic
You can read all the details here.

[EdgyRabbid]

Yeah… but what was the point when AO3 is mostly just porn lol?

[DaveRattlehead]

Great time for me to be starting as a PhD student and hence possibly having to read undergrads' lab reports

Fixed it

[Rsandee]

Also, here's yet another article on how students are increasingly using AI to cheat at assignments: https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... nce-survey

Great time for me to be starting as a PhD student and hence possibly having to read undergrads' lab reports

Oh good luck! I also started as a PhD student this month

[DaveRattlehead]

Good luck for both of you! And don't you dare go hollow...

[PluMGMK]

I dunno why I said "possibly" I'm not starting till next month anyway, still getting psyched up...

[Greengoop]

Great time for me to be starting as a PhD student and hence possibly having to read undergrads' lab reports

By the time you’re actually cheating, AI will probably be much better at replicating human writing as well. Just saying.

[EdgyRabbid]

I make so many typos I don’t think AI will ever replace me!

[PluMGMK]

Great time for me to be starting as a PhD student and hence possibly having to read undergrads' lab reports

By the time you’re actually cheating, AI will probably be much better at replicating human writing as well. Just saying.

Who said anything about me cheating?

[Greengoop]

Fuck, I made a mistake! I mean by the time your students are cheating!

[PluMGMK]

OK, I forgive you Goop

[Curionone]

As a theoretical/computational chemist my understanding of AI is very limited, I only know basic methods of machine learning and neural networks in order to figure out accurate parameters related to forcefields and such. AI is a completely different beast, one that I thought we were seeing the first glimpses of when ChatGPT was released before Christmas. Having spent some hours toying with it, I can only assume how many heavy filters were placed and dogwhistles were programmed that will prevent anyone from getting interesting results. Sure, I asked it some questions like "What's the nth digit of pi?" or "Give me 10 statements while only one of them is a lie", all of which were responded back to incorrectly. Not to mention that the program also just blatantly makes up stuff when it can't answer your question.

I'm absolutely convinced this program can do a ton, but because we are in the very early stages of AI right now the developers don't know how to program it in a "controlled" way yet. It's being held back and most likely for good reason considering the malicious things one could do with such a powerful tool; it's basically Tony Stark's AI Jarvis. I'm also convinced it will take uhhhh.... about 30 years maybe until we will see an AI with properties actually approaching some kind of sentience similar to humans?

Maybe more than 30 years but if I were a betting man I wouldn't say any earlier than that, even when taking the quadratic growth of such technology into account.

You’re right that ChatGPT isn’t “intelligent” in a human sense but it’s basically a giant statistical engine predicting the next word. The mistakes we saw aren’t because of filters but because it has no built-in math/logic engine, and filters mostly just stop unsafe outputs.

What’s often overlooked is the energy side: training one large model can use megawatt-years of electricity, comparable to running a small town. Even inference (just answering questions) at global scale eats huge amounts of power. So the bottleneck isn’t just “when do we reach sentience,” but whether scaling laws + energy demands make it sustainable.

[Rsandee]

As a theoretical/computational chemist my understanding of AI is very limited, I only know basic methods of machine learning and neural networks in order to figure out accurate parameters related to forcefields and such. AI is a completely different beast, one that I thought we were seeing the first glimpses of when ChatGPT was released before Christmas. Having spent some hours toying with it, I can only assume how many heavy filters were placed and dogwhistles were programmed that will prevent anyone from getting interesting results. Sure, I asked it some questions like "What's the nth digit of pi?" or "Give me 10 statements while only one of them is a lie", all of which were responded back to incorrectly. Not to mention that the program also just blatantly makes up stuff when it can't answer your question.

I'm absolutely convinced this program can do a ton, but because we are in the very early stages of AI right now the developers don't know how to program it in a "controlled" way yet. It's being held back and most likely for good reason considering the malicious things one could do with such a powerful tool; it's basically Tony Stark's AI Jarvis. I'm also convinced it will take uhhhh.... about 30 years maybe until we will see an AI with properties actually approaching some kind of sentience similar to humans?

Maybe more than 30 years but if I were a betting man I wouldn't say any earlier than that, even when taking the quadratic growth of such technology into account.

You’re right that ChatGPT isn’t “intelligent” in a human sense but it’s basically a giant statistical engine predicting the next word. The mistakes we saw aren’t because of filters but because it has no built-in math/logic engine, and filters mostly just stop unsafe outputs.

What’s often overlooked is the energy side: training one large model can use megawatt-years of electricity, comparable to running a small town. Even inference (just answering questions) at global scale eats huge amounts of power. So the bottleneck isn’t just “when do we reach sentience,” but whether scaling laws + energy demands make it sustainable.

Well we could always just employ thousands of people who manually answer to your prompts and I'm sure that will make it sustainable

[PluMGMK]

I dunno why I said "possibly" I'm not starting till next month anyway, still getting psyched up...

I guess I was right to say "possibly" after all, since it looks like all I'm correcting this semester is handwritten Quantum Mechanics homework. It is scanned and submitted online mind you, so I guess they could in theory try to deepfake it

[grandex]

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