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Does God exist?

Yeah
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31%
Nope
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43%
Maybe
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26%
 
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Re: God...

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I got a Yorkie easter egg. It's not for girls! :P
Tobbe wrote:
Joshua822 wrote:I think that it's true. i mean, every species need to start with a male and a female.
You really believe that the Earth is 6000 years old?! Are you out of your mind?!
I don't think Joshua quite understands what he's saying. YECs think that the earth was created in six 25-hour days by God, exactly as stated in the Bible, and they think that this occurred at some point between 4,000 BC and 8,000 BC. Each species starting with a single male and female pair isn't really a core part of it.
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Re: God...

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Oh, wait, i'm thinking of something else. I thought that you meant people who believe all humans are family. I believe that. I don't believe that the earth is 6000 years old at all.
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Re: God...

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Good, I was a bit worried there for a second. Anyway, all humans, and indeed all living things, can trace their family back to the first single cell organsim that came into existance here on Earth. So you are in some way related to your cat/dog/whatever, as well as all other humans.
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Re: God...

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Sounds like a far more probable theory than being conjured by some magical holy being.
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Re: God...

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I talked about this a while ago, to a friend of mine who wants to be a priest(remember, I go to a catholic school :wink: ), and he said that unless the Bible is taught by someone completely moronic, evolution and godly interference can co-exist pretty well...that is, if you're wise enough not to take every word of the Bible seriously. :P
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Re: God...

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Tobbe wrote:Anyway, all humans, and indeed all living things, can trace their family back to the first single cell organsim that came into existance here on Earth.
I wonder what it looked like, and what type of species it would be classified as if it existed today. Though it would probably be a disappointing bacterium or something.
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Re: God...

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If you're interested in the "evolution vs. creationism" battle (which isn't a scientific battle, it's purely political and religious), you should search for 'Kent Hovind' on YouTube. This guy represents the most extreme YECs. He has some really wild ideas, and he makes it sound pretty reasonable (he is an excellent pedagogue). If you do watch some of his videos, just make sure you don't buy into this craziness. His seminares are riddled with logical fallacies, factual errors and cheap debating tricks, and you have to ensure that you see through them. If his work leaves you with doubts, there are plenty of responding videos pointing out all of his errors (there are a lot), with plenty of references to reputable peer-reviewed scientific articles.
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Re: God...

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I've just Youtubed. It seems that not only does he believe in Creationism, he also believes that fire-breathing dragons inhabited the Earth in co-existence with Adam and Eve. And as if this theory was not extreme enough, he has high hopes the global population to decrease by 90% within the next twenty years. Maybe this is just my opinion, but I'm not willing to take someone of this description seriously on any level. If he wants people to take notice of his 'credible' theories then he should first be less extrovert about his own wild premises and actually explain them scientifically/politically.

Though I do agree with one thing he said: he declared religion and science are not incompatible. Some people dismiss the religious approach completely because they think scientific principles overrule religion simply because the tenets seem inconceivable in today's standard. It's important to remember that religion is a credence on a personal scale and DOES NOT act as a contradiction to science. I'm glad he brought this up.
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Re: God...

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I know people always say that science and religion are compatible, but really that doesn't make religion any more likely to be true.
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Re: God...

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Personally, I've never thought science and religon cancel each other out.
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In principal they don't. Not yet anyway. If someone were to figure out that the Universe is, and has always been, a closed system (that's most likely the case, but there is no compelling evidence... yet), science would cancel out theism ("regular" religion. Deism is the light version, which could be compatible with the Universe being a closed system).

But spiraldoor's statement is true, whether or not science and religion cancel each other out is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is what's true, and there is currently no proper evidence suggesting that there is a god.
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God is a DJ. In Trance, We Trust.
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Re: God...

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Why would anyone want eternal life?
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Re: God...

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Because this one ends?
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Re: God...

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I want eternal life. Just in case there's no afterlife (which there probably isn't). The idea of all my memories being erased and my consciousness permanently ended makes me uncomfortable.

In fact, I think that death is the worst thing that could possibly happen, to anybody.
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spiraldoor wrote:The idea of all my memories being erased and my consciousness permanently ended makes me uncomfortable.

In fact, I think that death is the worst thing that could possibly happen, to anybody.
:shock:
I don't wanna die now. You could write great horror stories.
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Re: God...

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I would like a longer-than-natural life, but I wouldn't want to live forever. Sure, the first 1000, 10 000 or million years might be fun. But what about the million years after that? And the billions, trillions and quadrillions of years after that? It would be too boring to even imagine.
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Re: God...

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Maybe, but it's better than nothing.

Perhaps there would be technology that could let you sleep for a few thousand years, so when you wake up, your existence is interesting again? :P
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Re: God...

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Imagine all the weird dreams you could have in that time...
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Re: God...

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It would be cool if a major scientific breakthrough happened and we could get cryonics to work. Imagine freezing your brain, thaw it up again some years later and grow a new body around it with stem cells or something. It would be most epic.
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