Something Bothering you?/Daily Doldrums
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Re: Something Bothering you?
I'm bothered by how much more awesome Batman Forever could have been.
Now, I like the movie. It's my second favorite of the original four Batman films. But there was so much stuff taken out of the film, it was taken down by about three levels in coolness. These are the deleted/alternate scenes that could have made the movie a whole lot better than what it was (taken directly from wikipedia):
* The escape of Two-Face from Arkham Asylum. Rene Auberjonois had more scenes filmed here, playing Doctor Burton but his role was reduced to a cameo in the final film. He encounters the escape with the psychologist killed and hanged in Two-Face's cell with his blood smeared on the wall, written as "The Bat Must Die." This was supposed to begin the picture but producers decided this was far too dark for a family audience. As this was cut, it made the editing of the final film somewhat muddled to the fans of the original script as later scenes were re-arranged. This scene appears in a rough edit on the Special Edition DVD. Segments of the scene also appears on the U2 music video "Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me."
* The construction of NigmaTech was more in-depth. There were scenes shot, that appear in publicity stills of Edward Nygma with a hard hat helping with the construction of his headquarters on Claw Island. This scene does not appear on the new Special Edition release but is shown in the sticker album published by Merlin Collections.
* Sugar and Spice, played by Drew Barrymore and Debi Mazar, try out Nigma's device during the montage when The Box goes on sale. They are seated with The Riddler and Two-Face on the couch where Chase is handcuffed later in the film. This scene appears in the comic adaptation but not in the final film.
* The most known deleted scene involved further backstory and darkness to the film which many people, including screenwriter Akiva Goldsman, believed would have improved the quality of the film considerably. It involved Bruce waking up from his gun wound to the head from Two-Face, temporarily wiping a part of his memory. He has forgotten his origin and life as the Dark Knight. Alfred takes him to the batcave, which has been destroyed by The Riddler. They stand on the platform where the Batmobile was and Alfred says "Funny they did not know about the cave beneath the cave." The platform then rotates downward to another level where the sonar-modification equipment is kept, from the special batsuit to the hi-tech weaponry. Bruce then discovers the cavern where he first saw the image that would make him become Batman - A giant bat. The bat appears and Bruce raises his arms and the shot shows that they are one. Bruce now remembers who he is and goes with Alfred to solve the riddles left throughout the film. Akiva admitted the scene was very theatrical on the Special Edition DVD and felt the scene would have made a difference to the final cut. The bat was designed and created by Rick Baker, who was in charge of the make-up of Two-Face, played by Tommy Lee Jones. This scene appears in a rough form on the Special Edition DVD and is briefly mentioned in the comic adaptation.
* The original ending was an homage to the first film. When Alfred drives Doctor Chase Meridian back to Gotham she asks him "Does it ever end?" Alfred replies, "No, Doctor Meridian, not in this lifetime..." The Bat-signal shines on the night sky and Batman is standing on a pillar looking ahead. Robin then comes into shot and joins his new partner. They both leap off the pillar, towards the camera. A rough edit of the first half of the scene appears on the Special Edition DVD, but not in its entirety. The sequence with Batman and Robin at the end of this scene appears on a teaser trailer for the video game, which is on the VHS release of this film, released in the UK on December 3 1995.
It's a good thing these were on the special edition DVD's.
Now, I like the movie. It's my second favorite of the original four Batman films. But there was so much stuff taken out of the film, it was taken down by about three levels in coolness. These are the deleted/alternate scenes that could have made the movie a whole lot better than what it was (taken directly from wikipedia):
* The escape of Two-Face from Arkham Asylum. Rene Auberjonois had more scenes filmed here, playing Doctor Burton but his role was reduced to a cameo in the final film. He encounters the escape with the psychologist killed and hanged in Two-Face's cell with his blood smeared on the wall, written as "The Bat Must Die." This was supposed to begin the picture but producers decided this was far too dark for a family audience. As this was cut, it made the editing of the final film somewhat muddled to the fans of the original script as later scenes were re-arranged. This scene appears in a rough edit on the Special Edition DVD. Segments of the scene also appears on the U2 music video "Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me."
* The construction of NigmaTech was more in-depth. There were scenes shot, that appear in publicity stills of Edward Nygma with a hard hat helping with the construction of his headquarters on Claw Island. This scene does not appear on the new Special Edition release but is shown in the sticker album published by Merlin Collections.
* Sugar and Spice, played by Drew Barrymore and Debi Mazar, try out Nigma's device during the montage when The Box goes on sale. They are seated with The Riddler and Two-Face on the couch where Chase is handcuffed later in the film. This scene appears in the comic adaptation but not in the final film.
* The most known deleted scene involved further backstory and darkness to the film which many people, including screenwriter Akiva Goldsman, believed would have improved the quality of the film considerably. It involved Bruce waking up from his gun wound to the head from Two-Face, temporarily wiping a part of his memory. He has forgotten his origin and life as the Dark Knight. Alfred takes him to the batcave, which has been destroyed by The Riddler. They stand on the platform where the Batmobile was and Alfred says "Funny they did not know about the cave beneath the cave." The platform then rotates downward to another level where the sonar-modification equipment is kept, from the special batsuit to the hi-tech weaponry. Bruce then discovers the cavern where he first saw the image that would make him become Batman - A giant bat. The bat appears and Bruce raises his arms and the shot shows that they are one. Bruce now remembers who he is and goes with Alfred to solve the riddles left throughout the film. Akiva admitted the scene was very theatrical on the Special Edition DVD and felt the scene would have made a difference to the final cut. The bat was designed and created by Rick Baker, who was in charge of the make-up of Two-Face, played by Tommy Lee Jones. This scene appears in a rough form on the Special Edition DVD and is briefly mentioned in the comic adaptation.
* The original ending was an homage to the first film. When Alfred drives Doctor Chase Meridian back to Gotham she asks him "Does it ever end?" Alfred replies, "No, Doctor Meridian, not in this lifetime..." The Bat-signal shines on the night sky and Batman is standing on a pillar looking ahead. Robin then comes into shot and joins his new partner. They both leap off the pillar, towards the camera. A rough edit of the first half of the scene appears on the Special Edition DVD, but not in its entirety. The sequence with Batman and Robin at the end of this scene appears on a teaser trailer for the video game, which is on the VHS release of this film, released in the UK on December 3 1995.
It's a good thing these were on the special edition DVD's.
Re: Something Bothering you?
Bothered about my eye health atm. Will probably do a small laser surgery this week.
Re: Something Bothering you?
Bothered about realising I have an exam tomorrow, and I haven't even revised.
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I never revise for exams P: Got me into 3 higher classes though.
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I have a French test tomorrow. BTW, I'm in top Honours everything.
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Re: Something Bothering you?
Barium. More hospital tests today involving that stuff mostly. Tastes like paste (not worse than liquid iron doses though) and sticks to the inside of your throat. (And I wasn't allowed to have anything else for about 2 hours afterwards, so no drink to wash it down when I needed it most)
Took plenty more blood today too, a whole 6 vials this time--the nurse didn't quite make the vein when she poked it in though, hehe. (Is worse when a nurse doesn't hit the vein when putting in an IV though, those things were useful in my hospital stay about two weeks back yet look so huge when you see that they're jabbing that thing in your arm...twice then because they missed the first time)
Our review site (my web in my profile) is still down too. It's up to our host to get it backed up and while they did in-turn help us to become a big success and a great resource, they're slower than molasses with this kind of stuff. Once we're a big enough site to hold our own, I want to propose us splitting to our own domain because it's been well over a week with zero response to something that should just be reverting the site to the previous day's backup and I'm a little bit annoyed with them now...
Took plenty more blood today too, a whole 6 vials this time--the nurse didn't quite make the vein when she poked it in though, hehe. (Is worse when a nurse doesn't hit the vein when putting in an IV though, those things were useful in my hospital stay about two weeks back yet look so huge when you see that they're jabbing that thing in your arm...twice then because they missed the first time)
Our review site (my web in my profile) is still down too. It's up to our host to get it backed up and while they did in-turn help us to become a big success and a great resource, they're slower than molasses with this kind of stuff. Once we're a big enough site to hold our own, I want to propose us splitting to our own domain because it's been well over a week with zero response to something that should just be reverting the site to the previous day's backup and I'm a little bit annoyed with them now...
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Re: Something Bothering you?
I've been told before that barium meals are the worst shit you could ever put in your mouth, so I'm sorry to hear. :{
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Re: Something Bothering you?
I'm in Honours English, Physics, Chemistry, Construction Studies, and Art...Pass Irish and Maths.PluMGMK wrote:I have a French test tomorrow. BTW, I'm in top Honours everything.
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Being in Second Year, I don't have everything that finely divided yet.
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Cairnie

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Ffff, people who do nothing on DeviantART but post GMod pics. HUUUUUR U GUYS I MAEK RAYMIN HAVE TEA WITH SC0UT R I COOL OR WHAT?!!
Seriously, pulling ragdolls about is not what I call art, and people who dedicate whole galleries to them need to get another hobby.
Seriously, pulling ragdolls about is not what I call art, and people who dedicate whole galleries to them need to get another hobby.
Re: Something Bothering you?
The laser surgeon said that I must not have P.E. and should have never had it because my eye probs. Unfortunately the local optometrists weren't competent enough to tell me that. 
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Whoa, that can't be good. At least you know now. What exactly is wrong with your eye/s?Matyuv wrote:The laser surgeon said that I must not have P.E. and should have never had it because my eye probs. Unfortunately the local optometrists weren't competent enough to tell me that.
Re: Something Bothering you?
Well I've had bad progressing short-sightedness, nystagmus and astigmatism since I was born and the doctor said that should have been enough reasons not to visit PE at all. Now they said my right eye retina is getting too thin and I shouldn't even lift anything heavier than 3kg I believe. At least the retina's condition isn't extremely bad so no surgery is needed now. They'll check again in 6 months though, then I'll probably have to do it. 
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What the flip does lifting weights have to do with retinas?
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Well, it's what the ophtalmologist said, and she's an experienced one.
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I'd imagine it's got something to do with strain, but still, that's shocking Matyuv!
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Sounds to me like overexerting yourself too much and increasing your heart rate/blood pressure would put too much strain on the capillaries in your retinas or something like that.
Re: Something Bothering you?
I think I have some problem with my right eye... often it becomes really runny for no apparent reason.
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That reminds me I'm due to book an opticians appointment and I've got an MRI scan on Monday
WTF my fingers feel all sticky when I touch my keyboard, like they're sweating...it's October already. Ugh and my back's killing me.
WTF my fingers feel all sticky when I touch my keyboard, like they're sweating...it's October already. Ugh and my back's killing me.
Re: Something Bothering you?
I'm bothered by it getting dark so early, and the sun not rising properly 'till around 9am. Oh, and the coldness. And shops having Christmas and Hallowe'en stuff up for sale already.


