Something Bothering you?/Daily Doldrums

[MLII]

But it does, seriously they need to knock it off.

[Xenon]

There's no way I'd want to be home-schooled. You wouldn't have any friends.

[Acarr]

Mlii, do you get homework?

[MLII]

No

And Xenon, I do have friends. What REALLY bothers me is how some people, when I tell them I'm homeschooled, say "But how can you know anything?" It's just...Grrrrrrr. >:

[Xenon]

But how?? The opportunity to socialise becomes extremely limited!

[Acarr]

You can't exactly have house parties if your house is the school.

[Xenon]

I never have house parties. People would come and destroy everything and I'd be like "no, don't touch that!", haha.

[MLII]

Meh, it is possible for me to have house parties...I just don't really

[Matyuv]

I've had very few, because my appartment is too small for a decent party.
Nothing's ever been 'destroyed', though.

[Raygirl]

But how?? The opportunity to socialise becomes extremely limited!

Just because you're home schooled doesn't mean you can't take part in other social activities. Yes they might not socialise in the same way but it's not like they're forced to stay home 24 hours a day. There are HUNDREDS of after school clubs which aren't connected to a school (scouts, sports, dance and drama, art and crafts etc) where kids can make friends, often moreso than at school because there's less peer pressure, pidgeonholing of the education system and pressure to be the best at a subject.

And thanks to the internet there's a better network open to parents and homeschooled kids to meet other kids in the area like them and socialise. Not to mention making friends through the internet, which is a LOT easier in this day and age.

Hell I don't talk to any of the people I went to highschool with ¬_¬ All my real, lasting friendships were from Uni

[Xenon]

Note the word 'limited'. School is obviously the best platform on which to socialise as it enables you to be part of class groups, and thus forces you to socialise with people of the same age. Home-tutoring doesn't offer this, therefore it limits the opportunities to be socially active. Agreed?

[Cairnie]

I went to school and I could hardly socialise because I was a bully target for all sorts of shit. I had the same problem in college too and that's an awful lot.

[spiraldoor]

But how?? The opportunity to socialise becomes extremely limited!

No it doesn't. You could just go out and socialise anyway.

[Xenon]

But how?? The opportunity to socialise becomes extremely limited!

No it doesn't.

Yes it does.

[Raygirl]

Note the word 'limited'. School is obviously the best platform on which to socialise as it enables you to be part of class groups, and thus forces you to socialise with people of the same age. Home-tutoring doesn't offer this, therefore it limits the opportunities to be socially active. Agreed?

Note the word 'forces'. One of the reasons that some kids are home schooled is because they don't like the way the school does things, because pidgeonholing people is not always the right way to teach a child. Plus bullying is a major factor, though i'm not saying that's the case for anyone here I knew one mother who took her children out of school in a row over uniform, but that's just one example.

I will agree that kids who are home schooled don't make the same social interactions that kids who go to main stream schools do, and maybe don't learn the cruel and harsh lessons of childhood the same way other kids do, but to suggest that somehow that kids who are home schooled can't form friendships and socialise outside of a school environment because they don't have the oppotunity is a dated argument

I'll also agree that 10 or 20 years ago this might have been the case, but with the dawn of the internet, better means of social networking and the concept that being home schooled is a CHOICE rather than the result of a failure on the part of the school or child, that idea that these kids don't make friends like school kids is not taking onboard the advances in technology and public understanding. There are websites, vast forums, govenment bodies and social groups all over the western world dedicated to allowing kids and parents who home-school to meet others who are the same as them, so the kids can make long lasting friendships and interact just as they would at school.

I don't except us two to agree on this subject, which is fine, but just because someone is home schooled doesn't mean they live like some kind of sub-terranian being that never sees the light of day and can't hold a conversation or form lasting relationships because they were never verbally bullied in the playground.

But how?? The opportunity to socialise becomes extremely limited!

No it doesn't.

Yes it does.

Were you home schooled?

[Xenon]

but to suggest that somehow that kids who are home schooled can't form friendships and socialise outside of a school environment because they don't have the oppotunity is a dated argument

I don't except us two to agree on this subject, which is fine, but just because someone is home schooled doesn't mean they live like some kind of sub-terranian being that never sees the light of day and can't hold a conversation or form lasting relationships because they were never verbally bullied in the playground.

I never said this. Not to be rude, but you seem to be struggling to understand the definition of 'limit' - the word is not a synonym of 'eliminate'. I never said people who are home-schooled have no social lives whatsoever and cannot hold any sort of conversation; I just said the opportunities are vastly limited, which, they are. Sure kids can participate in after-school clubs and stuff, but not having that intimate bond with fellow students is a clear restriction.

By the way, I don't consider the Internet to be a means of socialising. Forms of communication are conducted virtually, not really.

Were you home schooled?

Nope.

[PluMGMK]

Were you home schooled?

Nope.

Well then it's not a first-person opinion. So I ask MLII: Do you find that your social interaction is very limited?

[Xenon]

lol, I don't need to have a first-person opinion. The facts are pretty clear as they stand. I'm sure MLII feels she could have made more friends had she of been in a state school.

[Tobbe]

I've been googling some more or less properly conducted sociological studies. I've only read through a couple of introductions yet, but it seems that the social skills of home-schooled children are as well developed as those of children who go to public schools. I haven't found any info on whether kids in public schools have larger networks of friends than home-schooled ones, though. I'll read some more, see what I can find...

[Cairnie]

what I'd like to know is why she even gets homeschooled.

I've had quite a troubled time at school not just because of the bullying. In my primary days I was being a typical autistic with no idea on what's wrong [those days nobody heard of apserger's so everyone would assume autism] and therefore I was 1) bumped down by one year - meaning I'd be in year 2 but been put in a year 1 class - and 2) sent to a special unit at another school for the last term of year 3 and all of year 4, before I went back to the mainstream of my first school. The unit class was way smaller than a normal class so I kinda interacted better than I would - hell they even let me spend an afternoon playing with lego and that was like the first time I've been good lol.

As for socialising, it's down to the individual. I did want friends, but I wanted to spend more time on my own and that was that. Don't forget, a kid in one school can still be friends with one in another, same goes for those that knew each other in primary school and got put into different sec schools.