Something Bothering you?/Daily Doldrums

[Acarr]

I'm a chatterbox

[MLII]

So I ask MLII: Do you find that your social interaction is very limited?

Not really, tbh...I go to drama classes and TaeKwonDo and stuff..

what I'd like to know is why she even gets homeschooled.

Apparently the schools in my area aren't really that great, I don't know if that's the main reason but meh.

[Raygirl]

By the way, I don't consider the Internet to be a means of socialising. Forms of communication are conducted virtually, not really.

And just because someone meets someone over the internet before getting to know them in reality that doesn't count as socialising? Then why are sites like Myspace and Facebook defined as social networking sites? Yes it helps people who already know eachother stay in contact online but people have met and made friends and fallen in love through such sites. You can't discount the internet as a means of reaching out to people you don't know, and for some people with social anxiety that's the best possible way. Even people who go to school make friends over the internet that they then meet in real life. I know I have, and I'm a firm supporter of the internet as a means for people of different backgrounds to meet up in real life.

The facts are pretty clear as they stand.

What facts are these?

[Cairnie]

That's true actually, and I've had my fair share of meeting someone on the net and then meeting them IRL.

[Phoenixan]

Especially true of some on my MSN friends list. If I haven't seen them, I've at least called them on the phone once.

[Xenon]

Not proper socialising, then. Yes you're talking to them but you're avoiding every other part of communal interaction. I understand where you're coming from as I have made several friends on the net (actual friends, not just members of the same community) myself, but I still don't see how posting instant messages can be considered a form of proper socialising - that and making friends are two different things.

What facts are these?

That lack of state schooling hinders opportunities to meet up with people.

[Raygirl]

Not proper socialising, then. Yes you're talking to them but you're avoiding every other part of communal interaction. I understand where you're coming from as I have made several friends on the net (actual friends, not just members of the same community) myself, but I still don't see how posting instant messages can be considered a form of proper socialising - that and making friends are two different things.

All social interactions have to start somewhere, and some are downright weird. Some people form long lasting bonds after horrific accidents or through dialing a wrong number. Who's to say that the internet isn't another stem of that just because the people don't physically meet (and many do afterwards)? Not me

What facts are these?

That lack of state schooling hinders opportunities to meet up with people.

That's your opinion, not a fact.

[Xenon]

All social interactions have to start somewhere, and some are downright weird. Some people form long lasting bonds after horrific accidents or through dialing a wrong number. Who's to say that the internet isn't another stem of that just because the people don't physically meet (and many do afterwards)? Not me

I totally agree, and I speak from personal experience, but that's digressing. I was saying that merely typing messages is not a form of proper full-on socialising. Several people seem to have gone astray so here's the list of core points I've been making in this topic:

- Home-tutoring hampers opportunities to meet up with people and make friends
- Online chatrooms and forums are not tools to use for proper socialising

I see them as pretty solid, so I'm confused as to why everyone is disputing my posts.

That's your opinion, not a fact.

Debatable.

[Cairnie]

Time for a new bother: discs with scratches. I swear I'll probably have a mountain of Rayman saturn discs before I find one that gets me past Moskito's Nest, because the copy I've got this morning craps out when I get past the bit with the giant berry chasing me. So I had to resort to sending both my fucked discs to a CD repairing service and hopefully they'll do it or my money back, because there's no way I'm searching out to get yet another copy of the game.

Fuuuuck I wish I never glued my gamebox up and just waited to get my scart first.

[Raygirl]

All social interactions have to start somewhere, and some are downright weird. Some people form long lasting bonds after horrific accidents or through dialing a wrong number. Who's to say that the internet isn't another stem of that just because the people don't physically meet (and many do afterwards)? Not me

I totally agree, and I speak from personal experience, but that's digressing. I was saying that merely typing messages is not a form of proper full-on socialising. Several people seem to have gone astray so here's the list of core points I've been making in this topic:

- Home-tutoring hampers opportunities to meet up with people and make friends
- Online chatrooms and forums are not tools to use for proper socialising

I see them as pretty solid, so I'm confused as to why everyone is disputing my posts.

That's your opinion, not a fact.

Debatable.

Because we don't agree with you, and we're sharing our own opinions just like you.

Plus you've yet to provide any solid evidence that your opinion is 'fact'.

[Xenon]

You missed the point on several occasions, but I'm happy to respect your "opinions" if we can put an end to this debate.

[Serza5]

Time for a new bother: discs with scratches. I swear I'll probably have a mountain of Rayman saturn discs before I find one that gets me past Moskito's Nest, because the copy I've got this morning craps out when I get past the bit with the giant berry chasing me. So I had to resort to sending both my fucked discs to a CD repairing service and hopefully they'll do it or my money back, because there's no way I'm searching out to get yet another copy of the game.

Fuuuuck I wish I never glued my gamebox up and just waited to get my scart first.

I never had to get a disc repaired. Yes most of them probably have shit loads of scratches but they all play reasonably well.

[Tobbe]

You missed the point on several occasions, but I'm happy to respect your "opinions" if we can put an end to this debate.

Found something:

A brief narrative description of the journal article, document, or resource. Noting the lack of basic information necessary to begin to make conclusions about a home schooled child's social contacts, a study investigated the social networks of home vs. public schooled children (with a child's "social network" defined as all of the people who interact on a regular basis with the child at least once a month). The subject pool consisted of 21 home schooled children and 20 public schooled children, ages 12-l8, living in Oklahoma. Each subject kept a list of his/her interactions over a month's period of time, i.e. who he/she talked with for periods of at least 2 minutes or more. Follow-up surveys elicited information from subjects and their mothers about the structural and interactional quality of subjects' relationships with people on the list. Results indicated that the home schooling process does affect the nature of the relationships experienced in adolescence for home schoolers. The study found overall that home schoolers are not "at risk" in terms of the total number of people with whom they interact but are "at risk" in the sense of feeling less closeness towards and receiving less support from their peer friend relationships than public schoolers. (Five tables of data are included; 60 references and an appendix providing the Home/Public Relationships Questionnaire are attached.) (NH)

Judging by this, neither of you are entirely right.

[Cairnie]

Apparently the schools in my area aren't really that great, I don't know if that's the main reason but meh.

There aren't fantastic schools round here either but we were still sent to the one that was closest to us when each of us started at reception. Then we move a couple miles away for about 5 years, went to the same school , then we move back to our hometown so we could stay there, and then go to out closest sec school. When you choose a sec school for your kid, it's a really hard choice because there's barely any that don't have a drug and bullying problem. :/

[Raygirl]

A brief narrative description of the journal article, document, or resource. Noting the lack of basic information necessary to begin to make conclusions about a home schooled child's social contacts, a study investigated the social networks of home vs. public schooled children (with a child's "social network" defined as all of the people who interact on a regular basis with the child at least once a month). The subject pool consisted of 21 home schooled children and 20 public schooled children, ages 12-l8, living in Oklahoma. Each subject kept a list of his/her interactions over a month's period of time, i.e. who he/she talked with for periods of at least 2 minutes or more. Follow-up surveys elicited information from subjects and their mothers about the structural and interactional quality of subjects' relationships with people on the list. Results indicated that the home schooling process does affect the nature of the relationships experienced in adolescence for home schoolers. The study found overall that home schoolers are not "at risk" in terms of the total number of people with whom they interact but are "at risk" in the sense of feeling less closeness towards and receiving less support from their peer friend relationships than public schoolers. (Five tables of data are included; 60 references and an appendix providing the Home/Public Relationships Questionnaire are attached.) (NH)

Judging by this, neither of you are entirely right.

Can't say fairer than that, thank you for the info Tobbe!

[Acarr]

When you choose a sec school for your kid, it's a really hard choice because there's barely any that don't have a drug and bullying problem. :/

Barely any? More like there isn't a single one!

I'd just watch out for the one's with the knife crime problems, forget the other flaws...

[PluMGMK]

I had my life's most WASTED 20 minutes today. That really bothers me!

[MLII]

Why, what did you do? Or not do..?

[PluMGMK]

It was a double class at school. The first half was taken by a teacher, we got to do our homework, and everything was fine. However, the second half wasn't taken by that teacher. She left us outside the classroom, expecting another teacher to come soon. Twenty minutes later, there was still no-one. Finally, our real teacher came back from the trip he was on and took the remaining fifteen minutes. Those were sort of wasted as well, as the teacher spent most of the time accusing students of being in possession of illegal fireworks (It's a joke that's been going on in that class for a while.).

[Acarr]

How is not doing any work something to be bothered about?

I'm bothered about the weather, so dull...