New info from old R2 site?

[Acarr]

Rayman PC is a work of art.

[spiraldoor]

Rayman PC is a work of art.

Communities can't really be art. Maybe the banner, but not the whole site.

[Hunchman801]

I also wasn't asking what the absolute definition of art was, I was asking what you define as 'art'. How about some suggestions of what you'd define as examples of 'high art'?

I'm not sure how relevant it is to the current situation, but well, I'll try to give examples for different domains:

• Architecture: St. Peter's Basilica in Rome
• Sculpture: the Winged Victory of Samothrace
• Painting: The Last Supper, Leonardo da Vinci
• Music: Moonlight sonata, Beethoven
• Poetry: Colloque sentimental, Verlaine
• Film: The Shining, Kubrick

[Phoenixan]

I'd hate to interrupt with something like this, but I just got reminded of something that was said in the Let's Play Daikatana videos. Unfortunately, a lot of them were deleted, but this is something that comes to mind.

"To those that say that games are art, this is the ultimate counter-argument."
"But there are those abstract art-forms were people take their own shit and can it or smear it on a wall."
"Hmm.. You're right! This is basically John Romero takin' a big ol' shit and smearing it all over some digital walls!"

Though there are games I do think of as being art while others are just thrown together for money...

[Raygirl]

I also wasn't asking what the absolute definition of art was, I was asking what you define as 'art'. How about some suggestions of what you'd define as examples of 'high art'?

I'm not sure how relevant it is to the current situation, but well, I'll try to give examples for different domains:

• Architecture: St. Peter's Basilica in Rome
• Sculpture: the Winged Victory of Samothrace
• Painting: The Last Supper, Leonardo da Vinci
• Music: Moonlight sonata, Beethoven
• Poetry: Colloque sentimental, Verlaine
• Film: The Shining, Kubrick

Finally, a straight answer! LOL. It doesn't have rellavance to anything, I just asked out of interest to make a comparison.

Mm, nice choice of music and painting

I'd hate to interrupt with something like this, but I just got reminded of something that was said in the Let's Play Daikatana videos. Unfortunately, a lot of them were deleted, but this is something that comes to mind.

"To those that say that games are art, this is the ultimate counter-argument."
"But there are those abstract art-forms were people take their own shit and can it or smear it on a wall."
"Hmm.. You're right! This is basically John Romero takin' a big ol' shit and smearing it all over some digital walls!"

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't that game reviewed on Something Awful? And someone made a LETS PLAY of it? XD Criminy! This I gotta see

[Phoenixan]

Yep yep!

Unfortunately, a lot of the videos were taken down off of Google Video. If you want to see an archive of the thread and whatever videos may be left though, you can take a look at http://lparchive.org/LetsPlay/ . What made the thread really awesome though was just the fact that John Romero him freakin' self actually made an account, argued his case in the game still proclaiming it to be the best thing since sliced bread, and even mentioned it all on his blog at http://rome.ro .

I actually bought this game for one penny. I never played it though because my computer died the same day, and taking it as a bad omen, I never bothered to install the game and play it.

*edit*

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 2580693973#

I think that this may be where they mention what I just said actually.

One good thing to come out of Daikatana though: the music.

*edit 2*

Yep, I was right. About 22 minutes in, they say the thing I quoted.

[spiraldoor]

I found an official R1 site here. When it loads, you have to Right Click > Play to see the site. But there doesn't seem to be anything there. There are similarly-empty R2 and RM sites, as well as an R3 site with essentially nothing on it.

[Haruka]

I found an official R1 site here. When it loads, you have to Right Click > Play to see the site. But there doesn't seem to be anything there. There are similarly-empty R2 and RM sites, as well as an R3 site with essentially nothing on it.

Those were the sites I was talking about in the other day, and it is curious because today I was watching those websites on the lunch time. Spiral is psychic.

[Acarr]

I don't really see the point in deleting all the info, and not the whole website.

[Droolie]

They didn't delete any info at all - it's probably just that the flash file in the Wayback machine tries to read from the website as it is now - and that doesn't exist anymore.
I remember when they still existed. There was almost nothing on it, just a few images and some info from the games you can find practically everywhere.

[Cairnie]

Yeah those sites pretty much had all the concept and 3D art and stuff, all of which should now be on Rayman-Fanpage.

[spiraldoor]

Spiral is psychic.

I know...but that's another story...

They didn't delete any info at all - it's probably just that the flash file in the Wayback machine tries to read from the website as it is now - and that doesn't exist anymore.
I remember when they still existed. There was almost nothing on it, just a few images and some info from the games you can find practically everywhere.

I'd still like to see them. I have the Flash file saved; is there any way I can open it up and see what's inside?

[dingodile555]

I'm really tempted to just give up rip-hunting for my art in general but I'm not standing on people making real money from them on either side. The Duckula tattoo was just bizarre.

You don't mean... someone got your artwork as a tattoo????

[Hunchman801]

I remember when they still existed. There was almost nothing on it, just a few images and some info from the games you can find practically everywhere.

The Rayman 3 website was different though.

[Haruka]

On the other day I visited again the old USA's Rayman 3 mini-site, I downloaded a Press Kit!

[spiraldoor]

I remember when they still existed. There was almost nothing on it, just a few images and some info from the games you can find practically everywhere.

The Rayman 3 website was different though.

Can you remember which one it was?

[Hunchman801]

Can you remember which one it was?

rayman3.com I believe.

[PluMGMK]

Didn't that just redirect to RaymanZone.com? (I was a Lums Quest member in those days.)

[Haruka]

Didn't that just redirect to RaymanZone.com? (I was a Lums Quest member in those days.)

Me too.

Please make sure future posts are longer -Acarr

[spiraldoor]

Didn't that just redirect to RaymanZone.com? (I was a Lums Quest member in those days.)

No, the pre-R3-release archives for rayman3.com all redirect to hoodlumsworld.com. Which is blocked by Ubisoft's robots.txt file.