Vancouver gang rape

[Rsandee]

I agree that you do have alot of feminist thought's on this, i understand that it's sad and all, but men are NOT cruel bastard's that rape every single living thing on sight.

[Adsolution]

Spiral, threads are for various purposes: To show off work, to discuss, to get advice, to share info, to debate, and so on. This doesn't happen to be a debate thread, so I don't care if I'm not 100% politically correct. You also do have a mark for turning every little thing into an argument. I seriously and literally rarely see a post of yours that isn't disagreeing with someone or arguing/debating with someone. There's a reason why people call you argumentative.

I also don't like how you've inserted ' marks where " marks should be in your post there. Me pointing this out is about as valid and important as you pointing out feminism in this topic.

You're annoyed with my slight point of feminism at the very end segment of my post. Do I care what you think of it? Not really. I wouldn't have minded if you pointed it out in a less-blatant manner like Rsandee.

I took out the paragraph since it's causing a ruckus.

[El Dango]

Come on guys, are you really that sensitive about it?

[spiraldoor]

Spiral, threads are for various purposes: To show off work, to discuss, to get advice, to share info, to debate, and so on. This doesn't happen to be a debate thread, so I don't care if I'm not 100% politically correct.

I did not set out to make this a ‘debate’ thread, and it would not be one if you had not responded to my posts. Not that I think there is anything at all wrong with debates (and I don’t think there are any issues which should be undebatable). I’m not sure why you segued from the subject of debates to the subject of political correctness halfway through that sentence, but regardless, my problem here is not with political correctness; if you will read my post on the previous page a little more carefully, you will see that I specifically used political correctness as an example to illustrate my problem with certain branches of feminist thought.

You also do have a mark for turning every little thing into an argument. I seriously and literally rarely see a post of yours that isn't disagreeing with someone or arguing/debating with someone. There's a reason why people call you argumentative.

Come on, that’s clearly not true. I’ve made several thousand posts on this forum that are not disagreeing with anyone. Look at my post history and read my last fifty or a hundred points if you don’t believe me. I’m not sure if you’re making some kind of gross exaggeration or if you really believe what you’re saying, but it can be disproved very easily by anyone who cares enough to take a look. Do you think I’m arguing with you right now? My posts so far in this thread seem calm and respectful as far as I can tell. Perhaps you’re reading into them a little too deeply and seeing things that aren’t there?

I also don't like how you've inserted ' marks where " marks should be in your post there. Me pointing this out is about as valid and important as you pointing out feminism in this topic.

I think I know a little bit more about the subtle differences between various punctuation marks than you do. For your information, the usage of double quotation marks is almost always an Americanism, which is why I never use them. I also prefer the elegant slanted apostrophes to the fugly vertical ones 99% of people use. I care enough to copy and paste them every time I need to use them, as my keyboard cannot produce them efficiently.

Moving on... your feminist outburst was inappropriate and insulting. If I find someone posting insulting messages, I will often call them out on it. As fascinating as the mechanics of the English language are, I don’t think that was a very illuminating or logical comparison to draw. My statement on feminism was relevant to your original post. Your original statement was not relevant. Your punctuation statement was not relevant. I’m not sure how I can state it any more clearly than that.

You're annoyed with my slight point of feminism at the very end segment of my post. Do I care what you think of it? Not really. I wouldn't have minded if you pointed it out in a less-blatant manner like Rsandee.

You don’t care what I think? That’s fine. You have no obligation to. I don’t think you are using the word ‘blatant’ correctly; Rsandee’s statement was shorter and more straightfoward that mine and contained less information. If you think length and detail and thoroughness are ‘blatancy’, then I don’t know why blatancy would bother you.

I took out the paragraph since it's causing a cophuffel .

I don’t think that will change very much, but good for you I suppose.

[Sabertooth]

I'm really sorry to hear about this. It's bad enough for it to happen at all, but for it to happen to someone you know? I just can't imagine that feeling. I hope she gets over this soon.

[Phoenixan]

If you ask me (and I know you didn't), a post like this invites debate, so give Spiral a bit of a break in this case.

You know how a lot of the time, we consider our parents to be super-strict get-in-the-wayers, and would ground us for doing something bad? But their parents scared then and injured them to have them follow instruction. Yet if you think about it, things like this didn't happen nearly as often 50 years ago as they do in this generation. Why? It seems that the only way to get teens to be good people is to scare them with pain, except for those few people who actually can resist and have more important things to do than our immediate present or where our body leads us...

And on this matter, you're talking rape cases. Reported rape. It's not that it didn't happen before. And though this article focuses on domestic violence, one point I'd like to make is that what constitutes as a crime has been further and further defined over the years.

[Adsolution]

You have a point there.

I can't believe how unfair the world was a few hundred years ago. This has nothing to do with now, but back then, who decided that man should take authority? Eh. I wonder what the future holds.

[Acarr]

I'm sorry rayfan, but it's you who's the one who caused an argument, not spiral.

You're entitled to your own views yeah, but there's no point in saying something in a forum if you can't be happy with others making a comment about it.

I can't believe how unfair the world was a few hundred years ago. This has nothing to do with now, but back then, who decided that man should take authority? Eh.

Because women were too busy in the kitchen.

[spiraldoor]

I can't believe how unfair the world was a few hundred years ago. This has nothing to do with now, but back then, who decided that man should take authority? Eh. I wonder what the future holds.

The fact that men are bigger and stronger than women is what led to widespread patriarchal society. Putting the physically smaller/weaker demographic in charge of, say, an early hunter-gatherer tribe would not really make sense. Whether it’s fair or not is another question, but it is the natural order of things.

[Phoenixan]

I can't believe how unfair the world was a few hundred years ago. This has nothing to do with now, but back then, who decided that man should take authority? Eh. I wonder what the future holds.

The fact that men are bigger and stronger than women is what led to widespread patriarchal society. Putting the physically smaller/weaker demographic in charge of, say, an early hunter-gatherer tribe would not really make sense. Whether it’s fair or not is another question, but it is the natural order of things.

Well, it's more-so an occurrence of "western culture," because if you look at some of the native american tribes, women were actually in charge of managing the village, and also made the decisions of who stayed and who went (say, a man needed to be kicked out of the tribe). Plus, it's a belief that stems from the bible, that women are weaker.

Personally, I don't quite believe that that's true.

[Adsolution]

There are some very strange things in the bible. It also literally says in that book that if you (it refers to 'you' as a man) lay with another man, you will not see the kingdom of heaven.

But a good recent example of what you're talking about is Avatar, the tribe works exactly how you described.

[Acarr]

In the bible, women were seen as evil, and were to be subject to their husbands and to be kept silent. Just to think a hundred so years ago, if a woman even cooked a crap meal the husband could put her head in a cage and walk her around by a chain, her tougne clamped so she couldn't talk. And this was the norm.

It doesn't matter now with rights and such being laid down. But of course this is the UK i'm referring to, the world is a huge place with different cultures and beliefs.

[Phoenixan]

Well, the early 1900's weren't that extreme, but they were still pretty bad.

[spiraldoor]

Plus, it's a belief that stems from the bible, that women are weaker.

Personally, I don't quite believe that that's true.

I’m talking about their physical strength, not any other sort. I’m pretty sure that the average man would beat the average woman at armwrestling...

It doesn't matter now with rights and such being laid down. But of course this is the UK i'm referring to, the world is a huge place with different cultures and beliefs.

Afghanistan would be a good example of one of these ‘different’ cultures. Last year they passed a law stating that a woman must allow her husband to have sex with her at least once every four days, and if she refuses she is not allowed to leave the house without permission. I think they amended it though...

[IllarKallas]

I'm very sorry for your friend D:, i hope she gets better soon.

About spiral: Not for being mean, but, Here we go again.

God, i wish i could go to your city and kick these idiots who did that to your friend in the ass...

[Adsolution]

I'm very sorry for your friend D:, i hope she gets better soon.

About spiral: Not for being mean, but, Here we go again.

God, i wish i could go to your city and kick these idiots who did that to your friend in the ass...

Only in the ass...?

[IllarKallas]

And cutting their personal parts with a Knife.

[Phoenixan]

I’m talking about their physical strength, not any other sort. I’m pretty sure that the average man would beat the average woman at armwrestling...

Well, yeah. It's just that I have to argue this because I'm a scrawny nerd with somewhat "feminine" stature. (I don't really have the ability to build up muscle either, in terms of appearance.)

[Adsolution]

I’m talking about their physical strength, not any other sort. I’m pretty sure that the average man would beat the average woman at armwrestling...

Well, yeah. It's just that I have to argue this because I'm a scrawny nerd with somewhat "feminine" stature. (I don't really have the ability to build up muscle either, in terms of appearance.)

I don't really agree. Link me to that picture of you again?

[Phoenixan]

Ah, yes, my super good day.