Vancouver gang rape

[Adsolution]

Ah, yes, my super good day.

That makes you look awesome.

[Adsolution]

She's pregnant.

[Haruka]

She's pregnant.

Oh ****... *Shocked* I just felt right now a very depressive aura on my body...

[Adsolution]

She's pregnant.

Oh ****... *Shocked* I just felt right now a very depressive aura on my body...

I had the same response, followed by a violent day of school caused by me. I had an emo'ish face on the whole day and even got pissed at the teachers out loud. One of the other reasons I was so mad was that noone would believe me. Last time when it was during school prayer, I added in a prayer for my friend who lost both his parents, I got a "pff, yeah right." from the person beside me. I wouldn't bare to hear what people had to say this time.

I just sincerely hope that she doesn't rely on the opinion that abortion is murder. If everyone went by that law, then destroying a computer would be considered murder; they're both things that don't yet have a conscience.

She almost committed suicide, but luckily she decided not to... yet. I hope she never comes to that conclusion.

[Haruka]

In Portugal, Abortion is allowed if the person wishes. Of course it is better to do as fast as possible.

I hope she accepts to do it because a 1 month fetus hasn't got conscience still.

I also pray that she won't give up about the future and continues to build strenght and recover her true self. She has my support.

Do you know if she had more diagnostics? I hope not.

[Xenon]

To be brutally honest I can't understand why she would want to take her own life over something like this. My advice would be to abort the child (for its sake as well as her own) and move on with her life, as traumatic as the incident was.

[spiraldoor]

I just sincerely hope that she doesn't rely on the opinion that abortion is murder. If everyone went by that law, then destroying a computer would be considered murder; they're both things that don't yet have a conscience.

That’s a spectacularly bad analogy. One relevant difference between a foetus and a computer is that a computer doesn’t turn into a newborn baby if you wait a few months. The word you are searching for is ‘consciousness’, not ‘conscience’. They have very different meanings. Besides computers, other things which can be conclusively said to not have consciousnesses include rocks, towels and cheeseburgers. I would not group foetuses with such inanimate objects.

She almost committed suicide, but luckily she decided not to... yet. I hope she never comes to that conclusion.

On a side-note: it’s good that she didn’t kill herself. I have no sympathy for suicides. How anyone can be such a selfish prick that they would be willing to put their family and friends through all that misery and guilt and grief just so they can get a quick and painless escape is beyond me.

To be brutally honest I can't understand why she would want to take her own life over something like this. My advice would be to abort the child (for its sake as well as her own) and move on with her life, as traumatic as the incident was.

Yes, she should definitely get an abortion. While I personally consider an unborn foetus’s life to be more valuable than, say, a murderer’s or a rapist’s life – and accordingly support the death penalty while generally disapproving of abortion – I think that the taking of nascent (albeit innocent) life is justified under some circumstances. This child would probably have a rather poor life (just imagine if it saw the video...) and drag its young single mother down into misery with it. For everyone’s sake it is best to put it out of its misery before it has a chance to properly begin.

Anyone up for an abortion debate? The last one we had was a couple of years ago I think.

[Haruka]

I already gave my oppinion.

I don't see abortion as a bad thing, especially if there are coerent reasons to do it, like preventing that the child gets a poor quality of life when there are no/insufficient conditions to raise a child.

And it's better to do it as fast as possible, before the pregnancy starts to be a real problem and there's no way back.

[Adsolution]

I'm glad this place isn't covered in religious people, otherwise, you know.

[Phoenixan]

Personally, I view things from this angle.

[Adsolution]

Personally, I view things from this angle.

That's a great picture.

Something that pissed me more off, my school just held an abortion protest rally. For our required religion class, we need 30 hours of community service by the end of the year. And guess what: to get students to join, they give the students community service hours if they protest with the staff. People I know who weren't even against abortion went along to get their free service hours.

Now that's WRONG. I'm actually going to tear down that anti-abortion poster in my socials class.

It was pathetic, I hate my school.

And I might replace the poster of the anti-abortion with the picture you posted, Phoenixan.

[Phoenixan]

Wow, you certainly come from quite the religious community. Though, my own area could have its similarities with the fact that time is allowed off from class for students to go to LDS Seminary.

[Adsolution]

I just wanted to post a little update on something since I'm feeling really weird right now. I met her again yesterday, and it was really... hard. It went like this:

There was a little soccer event going on at her school in the gym on Saturday and I decided to join in one, since I have a few other friends that go there too that I was hoping to meet. Four substitutes were called up: me, her, and two other guys. I think the only reason she was there was because she used to play soccer. We all walked up, but she was walking extremely small and slow through the group of people watching until she reached the playing area, then she began to walk away. I walked after her and she stopped. It almost felt like a movie.
"You don't like these games either do you," she asked rhetorically.
"Well... soccer's okay..." We walked slowly, me mostly following her, until we were on the floor beside the tall bleachers.
"Wouldn't you rather do something else?" she asked.
"Exactly. I would rather just sit down somewhere with an instrument or something creative," I said. We glanced at the game for a second. They seemed to have completely forgotten we were ever called up.
"Exactly." She turned to me with tears in her eyes. The whole time she was walking kind of tight and scrunched-up. "I would NEVER want to become a dishonest fuck like they are!" She pointed at the people playing.
I just frowned kind of, starting to feel really strange. "Mhmm..." I hesitantly nodded.
We sat down under the bleachers side-by-side. All I could think about was what could possibly be done, fused with her sadness crawling into me.
"Did you ever see the video...?" She suddenly asked.
I froze, not thinking this question would ever come up. I hated lying when it mattered.
"I... did..." I fumbled. "But only like a few seconds of it...."
"You what?? How could you! I can't believe you! Why would you-" (she's angry that I watched it.)
"No, for the first couple seconds I thought it was just a little school thing, y'know, like those fun-fights some people get in that end in laughter, but then when I saw what it was, I screamed!"
She was heavily in tears now. I saw that she knew I didn't know at first. She shook trying to fight words. "Aagh!" She shouted into her knees.
I started crying a bit too.
All at once I felt every hair on my body stand up and I started shaking and coughing as I thought again of what it would have been like... then what it would have been like to have it happen seven times consecutively. I hugged her at that second and she did the same. "I know it didn't happen to me, but I feel like I know what it's like," I stuttered.
"I know, I can tell," she cried back.

The scene replayed over and over after that, and I relived it even more real than the first time when I went to sleep. I want to tell someone in real life, but it seems way too private of a thing to let out, and I want to protect her. Hence why I never say her name. She's turned ghost-like when I saw her. She's easy to pick out of a crowd because of the way she moves: scrunched up and tight, as if every moment of her life reminds her of it. At the moment, I just kind of feel like Lisa when she first met Bleedin' Gums Murphy.

[Sabertooth]

She got angry at you for not watching more of a gruesome rape video?

That sounds really emotional. Still hoping she gets over it, though that could take years...

[Adsolution]

She got angry at you for not watching more of a gruesome rape video?

That sounds really emotional. Still hoping she gets over it, though that could take years...

No she got angry that I watched it.

From what I see, it might take many years.

[Xenon]

Your friend should seek counselling or at least some form of consultative help because this really isn't normal behaviour. Yes, being raped is terrible and I wouldn't wish it upon anybody, but it isn't healthy to still be experiencing the grief on a daily basis, months after the ordeal.

[Adsolution]

Your friend should seek counselling or at least some form of consultative help because this really isn't normal behaviour. Yes, being raped is terrible and I wouldn't wish it upon anybody, but it isn't healthy to still be experiencing the grief on a daily basis, months after the ordeal.

I agree fully of course, and I think she is going to a counselor... if not now, then soon.

[Jewish Candy]

So awful...
More important than counselling, she's gonna need you, Rayfan. Having someone she knows that she can trust is what's going to save her, not a bunch of heads who she may or may not get on with. Rape is impossible to get over without the 1 or 2 people who are supportive the whole way.
That said, are you ok with this? Being one of those people (and it looks like you are) is a hard gig. It's spiritually and physically exhausting. I'm as worried about you as I am about her, though you seem like the kind of person who'd be up to it.
The whole situation is fucking sick. I haven't looked at this topic for a bit, so are the police involved or are they absent as usual?

[Adsolution]

So awful...
More important than counselling, she's gonna need you, Rayfan. Having someone she knows that she can trust is what's going to save her, not a bunch of heads who she may or may not get on with. Rape is impossible to get over without the 1 or 2 people who are supportive the whole way.
That said, are you ok with this? Being one of those people (and it looks like you are) is a hard gig. It's spiritually and physically exhausting. I'm as worried about you as I am about her, though you seem like the kind of person who'd be up to it.
The whole situation is fucking sick. I haven't looked at this topic for a bit, so are the police involved or are they absent as usual?

I might or might not have said earlier (I don't remember if I did or not) that the police have arrested most of them, which is good news.

I think I'm up for this as well. It's the kind of thing I like doing.

[Jewish Candy]

I might or might not have said earlier (I don't remember if I did or not) that the police have arrested most of them, which is good news.

I think I'm up for this as well. It's the kind of thing I like doing.

Oh, what a relief that they've been caught. 'Tis indeed good news.
Even better news that you're up for this! It's great that you enjoy this kind of role, that will make things so much easier for the two of ye.