Rayman 3

[DesLife]

But you're unable to do that.

[Jewish Candy]

I WILL ONE DAY DAMMIT

[DesLife]

I doubt that. Unless you become Emmett Brown's pupil.

[Jewish Candy]

I certainly would like some more of those. Ridiculous mathematical philosophy and super-sized cumquats have no place in a Rayman thread, though.

[DesLife]

But they're fun. And we don't have much to say about Rayman 3 anymore.

[Jewish Candy]

'Tis true, 'tis true... but meh, I'm all a-sleepy now. Time to go off an dream about surprisingly natural cosmetic surgery.

[iHeckler9]

Can you be specific? It was just a jump timing of not being hit by the swinging dry fruit...

I can't get to it! Sometimes I go mad trying to get it. I jump across and always miss. I'm at exactly the right height, so...help?

[spiraldoor]

I think that, one day, people WILL find a way to divide by zero successfully - in a similar fashion to complex numbers, which no doubt would have seemed impossible to the average caveman.

But complex numbers are still impossible. They make no sense.

And when we do so, everyone (even the men) will have enormous breasts, technology will accelerate to the point that a singularity is a ridiculous concept, and equality, acceptance and solidarity will at last reign throughout humankind. I have a dream indeed.

Equality? Acceptance? Sounds lame to me. You might as well throw in ‘tolerance’ and crap like that. War and strife would be infinitely preferable.

[DesLife]

I think that, one day, people WILL find a way to divide by zero successfully - in a similar fashion to complex numbers, which no doubt would have seemed impossible to the average caveman.

But complex numbers are still impossible. They make no sense.

They do make perfect sense.

[Jewish Candy]

Spiral.

TAKE. A. JOKE.
Seriously, would I really base my philosophy on breast size? (In all honesty, I do seem like the kind of person who might...)

[spiraldoor]

I think that, one day, people WILL find a way to divide by zero successfully - in a similar fashion to complex numbers, which no doubt would have seemed impossible to the average caveman.

But complex numbers are still impossible. They make no sense.

They do make perfect sense.

They make no sense at all. They don’t exist. They are fake numbers invented to fill gaps that were not there. All rules associated with them are arbitrary and false.

[iHeckler9]

Spiral.

TAKE. A. JOKE.
Seriously, would I really base my philosophy on breast size? (In all honesty, I do seem like the kind of person who might...)

Spiralburg...

[DesLife]

I think that, one day, people WILL find a way to divide by zero successfully - in a similar fashion to complex numbers, which no doubt would have seemed impossible to the average caveman.

But complex numbers are still impossible. They make no sense.

They do make perfect sense.

They make no sense at all. They don’t exist. They are fake numbers invented to fill gaps that were not there. All rules associated with them are arbitrary and false.

Well then it seems you don't really understand the purpose of maths. Real numbers don't exist either. They're just concepts humans came up with. That's the same with complex numbers, which were created to solve some equations. Plus, I wonder why would physics use complex numbers all the time if they were "fake." And the results obtained by using complex numbers make perfect sense.

[spiraldoor]

Well then it seems you don't really understand the purpose of maths. Real numbers don't exist either. They're just concepts humans came up with. That's the same with complex numbers, which were created to solve some equations. Plus, I wonder why would physics use complex numbers all the time if they were "fake." And the results obtained by using complex numbers make perfect sense.

Real numbers do exist. Everything which exists can be counted and the result will always be a real number. Complex numbers do not exist. I don’t know about you, but I have never seen a complex amount of anything, ever. That’s Lovecraft territory. The reason they’re called ‘imaginary numbers’ is because they’re exactly that: imaginary. Not real. The reason equations using complex numbers make sense is because mathematicians invented unnatural rules to go along with them.

[DesLife]

Real numbers do not exist. Those are concepts invented to describe quantities, but they are only concepts. Maths have nothing to do with reality, no mathematic object exists. Maths are a bunch of imaginary concepts that can sometimes be used to describe the world, which is done by solving equations. Both real and complex numbers can describe reality : why would only real numbers exist ? And I also wonder what you mean by "natural" and "unnatural" rules since all mathematical rules were invented by humans.

[spiraldoor]

Obviously numbers do not exist in their pure conceptual form, but they certainly have a place in the underlying framework of reality. Real numbers can be used for real things and can be applied to real things. We see real amounts of things all the time. Imaginary numbers are an invention. Minus one doesn’t really have a square root, regardless of whether a mathematician pretends it does to help him solve an equation. Imaginary numbers don’t describe reality; complex numbers do to a certain extent, but that’s because they’re a product of real and imaginary numbers.

By ‘natural’ mathematical rules I mean rules that are inherent in reality: two plus two equals four, pi times the square of the radius equals the circumference, things like that. By ‘unnatural’ mathematical rules I mean rules that were created artificially: the square root of minus one equals i. When Pythagoras came up with his famous theorem, he wasn’t inventing a new rule; he was discovering what was already there. But imaginary numbers were never there.

[DesLife]

You seem to forget that maths are based on axioms... there is no intrinsec truth in "2+2=4".

[spiraldoor]

Two plus two is totally four though. It may be technically uncertain but it’s obviously the truth.

[ParadoxJuice]

How did this argument start on the discussion thread for a video game?

Sure, it's great to have these types of debates, but...such a strange venue.

[Jewish Candy]

Not really, since dividing by zero is the only obvious way to unlock 2D Nightmare in Rayman 3 on the GC.