Rayman Origins

[Pushmipullu]

Might as well boot me off the forums. Three months ago, I would have sworn that Ray1 and Ray2 took place in differant 'worlds'. Or that the red haired nymph wasn't Betilla. I am also a fanfic writer. So sue me.

Off topic, when the Game Informer article comes out, It'll probably be readable on their website.

[rayguy]

Hi there, I don't know if you notice theses images:

Am I the only one who noticed that rayman's hair looks quite different here? looks like he had a haircut or something xD

[Bithainium]

The little prologue story in the Rayman 2 manual describes Rayman and Globox fighting the Robo-Pirates together in the Great Forest right before Rayman gets captured. Globox was described as a fighter from the very very first time he was introduced. He also stands up against the Hoodlums in Rayman 3 with the help of a little Dutch courage...

The people who said Rayman 1 and Rayman 2 took place in different universes were so wrong.

Sorry, my copy of Rayman 2 did not come with a manual.

I would say that Globox's "bravery" against the hoodlums is more down to loss of thought proceses rather than wine aided courage. From the comments said by Globox after consuming plum juice it is quite evident he is not thinking clearly and is intoxicated by the drink. Him "standing up" to the hoodlums is probably due to him not recognizing the danger rather than opposing it . For example, he does not dodge the hoodlums bullets if they are shot at him, a sign of not recognizing the danger rather than being brave, whereas Rayman (acknowledged as a brave hero) would dodge these. Other actions of Globox's in Rayman 3 show him to be a natural coward.

Futheremore, I define courage as the overcoming of fear. Not the committing of brave acts due to lack of fear/danger recognition.

As for the battle in Rayman 2, what does it say about the fighting. Is it possible Globox was taken along but not involved in the fighting? Or was he so traumatized by this event that he was a coward for the remainder of the game (and the sequel).

Sorry for calling it an error, it's just something that needs explaining.

[spiraldoor]

The prologue in the manual says that Rayman was beating up the Robo-Pirates with his magic fist while Globox was using his Rain Dance to make them rust. The Heart of the World is shattered during the fight, and Ly telepathically informs Rayman of this; his powers disappear and he is captured by the pirates. Rayman urges Globox to flee and find Ly; Globox hesitates, not willing to leave his friend, then darts away. Razorbeard (who is present at the battle) tells Rayman that he’ll soon be his most obedient slave, and Rayman vows revenge. This leads into the opening sequence of Rayman 2: presumably several days later, Globox allows himself to be captured by the pirates so he can meet up with Rayman and give him the Silver Lum. Overall Globox seems relatively brave in the prologue. If there’s a continuity error, I think it’s within R2 rather than between R2 and RO.

(By the way, my comment about the idea of R1 and R2 existing in different universes was just a random thought and was not directed at you; also, my double use of the word ‘very’ was accidental and sounds condescending now that I’ve spotted it.)

[mastermatt56]

Once again, I don't want to read through everything I've missed largely due to lack of time. (And I'm lazy ) So I apologize if any of this has already been said.

Based on what we've seen in the trailer, Betilla may not be so happy about what happens next...


(I'm joking. That was a joke. Calm down.)


I may be completely off here, but this appears to be almost like a character selection screen. It's not too clear in this picture, but there are lights below the feet of Globox, the Teensy, and the Lividstone. But then, why would the Lividstone be a playable character?
IDK. That's just the impression I got.

[Hunchman801]

The disposition of the characters was certainly made on purpose but it's probably nothing more than a snapshot of a three-player game.

[SoundslikeStu]

ARGH THIS IS ALL SO AWESOME. Can't believe they're making this game.

That is all.

[Bithainium]

(By the way, my comment about the idea of R1 and R2 existing in different universes was just a random thought and was not directed at you; also, my double use of the word ‘very’ was accidental and sounds condescending now that I’ve spotted it.)

I was not assuming your comment was directed at me. I just couldn't be bothered refining the quote.

I did find it It ironic however, as I have always assumed that Rayman 1 and two took place on different worlds. The evidence being that there were no old characters, no old locations and no old enermies (bar bzzit). Also the back of my manual-less copy of Rayman 2 says something along the lines of "Raymans back in a new dimension" ( subsequent re-examination of this has led me to think that perhaps this is referring to Rayman being in 3D rather than him being in a new world). Also apparently Rayman was discovered in the sea of lums. Why was he discovered after Rayman 1 in a world he had been in since birth? Abouther thing that needs to be explained.

I did not notice the double "very". It does not matter anyway. We all know how easily these typos occur occur.

[spiraldoor]

I did find it It ironic however, as I have always assumed that Rayman 1 and two took place on different worlds. The evidence being that there were no old characters, no old locations and no old enermies (bar bzzit). Also the back of my manual-less copy of Rayman 2 says something along the lines of "Raymans back in a new dimension" ( subsequent re-examination of this has led me to think that perhaps this is referring to Rayman being in 3D rather than him being in a new world). Also apparently Rayman was discovered in the sea of lums. Why was he discovered after Rayman 1 in a world he had been in since birth? Abouther thing that needs to be explained.

Of course there was a significant art shift from one game to the other, but I never took this to mean that the developers intended a dual-universe story. There was never any indication that Rayman was transported from one world to another – had this happened, I’m sure it would have been an enormous plot point, rather than something glossed over without a single mention. The whole idea is terribly contrived. With the exception of a brief period during which I believed it simply because everyone was claiming it to be true, I’ve always considered it to be no more than a very bad fan-theory that diluted the strength of the Rayman universe by attempting to split it in two. The story which describes Rayman washing up on the shore of the Sea of Lums has apparently been replaced by Rayman Origins, but before then I simply assumed it took place before the events of R1; this point of view is supported by the story itself:

It didn't take Rayman long to convince the people of the Glade of Dreams of his good intentions ... And when he triumphed over the evil Mister Dark, the truth was undeniable: Rayman was the bravest of them all, the ideal hero ...

This reference to Mr Dark’s defeat occuring after Rayman’s first appearance on the shore seems to place the events of R1 after his discovery. This raises further questions (eg, Why were the fishermen amazed by his limblessness when they lived in a world populated by limbless creatures? Why did they not react to Mr Dark in a similar way?). I spent a while coming up with complex theories to explain these apparent inconsistencies (the valley and the Glade as distinct locations between which travel is occasionally possible), but ultimately I find that RO’s retconning results in a more coherent story.

[SoundslikeStu]

,,

[spiraldoor]

What questions? I’m not sure if you’re talking to me or not.

[Haruka]

Not to ..be pessimistic but I don't think RO is going to answer ALL these questions, not all the tiny little things people have noticed, but you shouldn't be dissapointed. It's gonna be fantastic.

No one claimed here that all the questions will be answered. And I think there's no problem trying to remember about questions that we would like them to be answered. Who knows if some will be answered for real?

I've been thinking in how much the game might cost in the 3 different platforms. Something tells me that the Wii version will cost (in best of chances) 49,99€ and Xbox 360/PlayStation 3 will go for the 69,99€ if not the 59,99€ (There are games for these two consoles that reach this pricing). If there is going to be a PC version, then it will probabily have the same price as the Wii version. I'll also wonder if it will be possible to pre-order the game in some physical stores, and if they are thinking in doing a collector's edition or not.

[Hunchman801]

Well at least it's something you don't have to think about when you grow up

[Cairnie]

WOULD be nice if they did a really nice figurine when you preorder the game like they did with RRR1.

[Haruka]

Or what about a small collector book? The figurine would be nice indeed.

[mastermatt56]

I did find it It ironic however, as I have always assumed that Rayman 1 and two took place on different worlds. The evidence being that there were no old characters, no old locations and no old enermies (bar bzzit). Also the back of my manual-less copy of Rayman 2 says something along the lines of "Raymans back in a new dimension" ( subsequent re-examination of this has led me to think that perhaps this is referring to Rayman being in 3D rather than him being in a new world). Also apparently Rayman was discovered in the sea of lums. Why was he discovered after Rayman 1 in a world he had been in since birth? Abouther thing that needs to be explained.

I don't think that's true, though. I mean, now it obviously isn't, but there are a few enemies that return in Rayman 2, mostly in the first couple levels. The antitoons are in it, and those piranhas that jump out of the water are also in it.
And yes, "back in a new dimension" is referring to the 3D.

[AJack]

So I found a copy of the new Game Informer and did some nicer scans for y'all:

[AJack]

And a few more...

[MLII]

I once heard someone on dA (i think) say that Rayman1 wasn't canon. e.e

*Shrink shoulders* Then "red" isn't a colour in the point of view of that guy.

Pffft ikr? D: I'm not sure it was dA come to think of it, it might have been iScribble.


EDIT: Loving the pictures. <3 BUT THEY SPELT TEENSIE WRONG

[Haruka]

Thank you AJack, but we all would be even more pleased if you scanned the entire pages about Rayman Origins.