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Re: Rayman 3 Scores

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It is already hard for me to reach the 600000 points. :lol:
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Danone wrote:Mand can you make the combo I asked above please?
Do you mean the combo in BOM part 4 with the green gem for 9.000 points? If so, I'll give it a shot.
Haruka wrote:For example, the Tower of the Leptys. Sometimes it just gives me extra 10 points, other times it gives me 20 extra points. I never understood why.
That's true, just tried it out with the very first Piggybank in TOTL. It turns out that when you break the Piggybank immediately after the initial cinematic, you get 20 points for the Piggybank and the yellow gem as well. If you wait a little bit before breaking the Piggybank you get the usual 10 points. I can't explain why this happens.
sfn42 wrote:@MandM: We have come to an understanding with Cut, getting rid of any hard feelings in the process. I think you could manage that, too. Don't forget he was just a ~13-year-old kid at that time.
You mean you have an understanding with Cut in the German forum? And you can vouch for him now?

I'd be more than happy to overlook the folly of youth if indeed it is just that. In the case Cut however, for a long period of time he behaved disrespectfully towards the players here. It was not just in a few messages, which could be put down as sillyness or youth. He was into elaborate lies about combos and about his score. That's quite an achievement for a 13-year-old kid.

As I said, he's welcome here as long as the administrators allow it. For me personally, I don't want to engage in discussions with him.
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MandM81 wrote:Do you mean the combo in BOM part 4 with the green gem for 9.000 points? If so, I'll give it a shot.
Yes, is that
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Image

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If some of you improve your score in the HOF and your name is in the wiki please contact me for score updating!
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654773 is my current one

Edit: sorry for double post above but I was sure DTUCC posted something before
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Danone wrote:654773 is my current one
Good score you got there. I guess the next big step is reaching 700.000 points :D

Here's the video for BOM

The Bog of Murk part 4 - The Green Gem Combo

Good luck with it!
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Sure I'll get it before of 2012, thanks for the combo
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Sorry for double post, but Im amazing with a things I discovered (probably MandM discovered it before)

In TTOTLD part 4, if you take a yellow gem in the moment of kill the Boss, you get a combo of 1500 points
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Danone wrote: In TTOTLD part 4, if you take a yellow gem in the moment of kill the Boss, you get a combo of 1500 points
I also did that by myself without reading MandM's guide, when I was trying to improve my score in that level.
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About it, Im in the last level of TLOTLD, and seems that when you exceded 99.999, the scores stop to work, why?
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This is taken from RayWiki about the scoring system.

How to pass 99.000 points

It is not possible to keep scoring when you reach 99.000 points, the counter simply stops and no more points are added to the counter. If one tries to keep scoring this way, the result is always lower than 100.000 points.

However, there is a way to pass this scoring limit and the secret lies in the fact that combo points are still added to the counter provided you have stopped scoring before you reach 100.000 points. The way to get the most out of your scoring would therefore be to land on exactly 99.999 points before the combo points are added.

Here is an example that shows how to use this. We can look at the previous example with five yellow gems, five red gems and one green gem. We use the following combo, which was worth 4840 points:

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We now calculate the sum of the points from the gems: 5·10 + 5·30 + 1500 = 1700 points.

Let us suppose you have a good score and you want to find out how many points you must have before you play this combo. In order to get the most out of this combo, you have to have this amount of points before you start playing this combo:

99.999 – 1700 = 98.299 points

When you have finished the combo the counter will show 99.999 points. This allows your combo points of 4840 points to be added to the counter and you final score will be:

99.999 + 4840 = 104.839 points
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That quite hard, but I'll try it the next time
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Making a video from BOM and knowing Mostwanted is (or was?) heading for the a new best score gave me the motivation to look into the combos of BOM and maybe revise some of them. Maybe I could advise an easier journey to the maximum score 100.799 points through videos, and maybe give it one last shot at a potential new best score for BOM, namely 101.199 points.

So far I have revised part 1 and made a video of the essential combo.

The Bog of Murk part 1 - The Gem Combo

I hope in the course of the next month or so to be able to cover all major videos in BOM and perhaps be able to determine whether or not 100.799 is the true maximum score for BOM.
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Wow, very nice one Mand! I investigated that part as well, but constantly failed, regardless of which approach I used. I wondered whether it would be possible. Great stuff!
And, more like was, it should be recognizable in the HOF that I drastically improved something, I have already finished with BOM (99.999) and also replayed LA (42k+), leading my total score to 839956, new all time best. I've actively played recently, just didn't participate in the discussions. Concerning my plans for the future, I'm still feeling very motivated and am currently playing the Summit for 110k+ and potentially more. Afterwards, I'll have another go at BOM for max, and then we'll see. I've still got many possibilities left
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MandM81 wrote:Making a video from BOM and knowing Mostwanted is (or was?) heading for the a new best score gave me the motivation to look into the combos of BOM and maybe revise some of them. Maybe I could advise an easier journey to the maximum score 100.799 points through videos, and maybe give it one last shot at a potential new best score for BOM, namely 101.199 points.
can you actually confirm by now that it's possible to hit razoff 6 times?
i mean, have you ever hit him 5 times without him falling off?

mostwanted told me he managed to do it already, i just want to make sure..
i've been practising part 6 of BOM for 3 days now and haven't managed to make a 1200 combo a single time. (i'm getting better, though.)
would be so helpfull to see a video of 6 hits in my opinion

also, i have a new combo for part 4 of BOM on the drawing board, i'll give it a shot right now and record it if it works.

edit: screw that, it's not even close.
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Mountain Goat: That's a great score you got there. And good to hear from you in the scoring thread. Which part of SBTC are you playing at the moment?

CC: Some years ago I tried to hit Razoff six times. I think I tried for two or three days without any luck. One time in frustration I just hit Razoff with all I got and to my surprise he stayed on the ball and the combo counter showed 800 points. I don't remember the exact position and I haven't been able to do it again. But, and there is a big but, I kept hitting even after the five hits and none of those hits knocked him off the ball. That is, none of those hits registered at all. That led to my conclusion then, that it would be impossible to hit Razoff six times.

However, it's been a few years since then and maybe I can look at the last part with fresh eyes and come up with a new approach. I have dedicated a new game for the sole purpose of replaying BOM (I'm still in FC in my HoF game).

It would be great if you have a new idea for part 4. I look forward to seeing the video. And by the way, wouldn't it be cool if one could enter the upper level in the room with the green gem in part 4 WITHOUT having to kill the Spinneroo? Then allmost everything could be taken in one combo with the Matuvu for 2.500 combo points in the end?

By the way, how did Mostwanted finish BOM, with 100.799 points?
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Didn't intend to confuse ya, but I actually am mostwanted, just known under a different name now Image

So yeah, I completed BOM with 99k as previously mentioned, the maximum, whatever it may be now, will be enforced/achieved later on. im currently playing the first part of sbtc, trying to rack up 20k+ in order to have a solid foundation for area 2 :)

Concerning your experiences with Razoff on the wrecking ball, it does sounds like it wouldn't be possible on first glance, but luckily that doesn't necessarily confirm the theory, might have just been an accident that he couldn't be hit once again afterwards.

CC: I've developed similar theories as well, and despite trying many different approaches, it remained a dream to create a bigger combo. I believe being able to jump up to the mushroom without needing to utilise the vortex given by the hoodlum would be an improvement already. unfortunately, it wasn't possible for me.
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So you're a Mountain Goat now? 8)

I must have missed you got 99k in BOM. I thought 88.500 points should be enough for 100.799 points? I'll make a video eventually that shows how to do it.

Good luck with the Ship.
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sadly, my idea doesn't work at all. i'll try to find sth different..

actually i'm in part 6 of BOM already (started playing about one to two weeks ago) with about 91K points (triple glitch ftw).

i acutally did find out sth interesting:

back then, when roket appeared out of nowhere, showing us the 1500 extra points in LOTLD i went straight to BOM to check whether it was possible to have 98.499 points and beat razoff to finish the level with 101.499.
what i didn't check was, whether it was possible to have 99.899 and hit razoff regularly. now that i reached this part, i checked everything and found out that it's indeed possible to hit razoff when you have 99.899, so that's at least a 100 points-improvement we can make there.
would be awesome if 6 hits were possible, though.
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