Rayman Origins

[ikke471]

the music in the first video is pretty amazing.

i love the flutes playing on the background too!
(i think we saw some more footage from the chacken boos thing from bandland/dessert of the digeridoos)

[spiraldoor]

Actually, the process of aging goes like this: every time a cell splits, it's DNA line gets shorter. Once the DNA line is short enough, the cells who are the descendants of the former cell all die. Cancer infected cells are the only ones who's DNA line doesn't get shorter. If you put these cells in an environment where they have an infinite amount of food and their droppings are cleaned, the first cell, from which they all come, is practically immortal. If we can harness that mutation to make regular cells so, there would be no aging. I've tried so hard to make my mom, who's an oncologist, look at it this way, with no luck.

Are you referring to telomeres? I admit I have only a basic understanding of genetic ageing, but I imagine that such a gene therapy method – modifying all of a person’s cells to deactivate the ageing process – would not be as efficient as a nanotechnological one. People with immortal cells would still die from disease, murder, accidents or general wear and tear. The average life-span might only be extended by a few centuries.

I expect nanomachines could be programmed to replace or repair every cell with a fresh one when its telomere becomes too short, or even every time it divides. There are many other advantages to nanotechnology – one proposed use is to replace a person’s red blood cells with extremely efficient artificial ones. This would allow a person to go hours at a time without breathing, or perform super-human athletic feats.

[Spanex]

Don't worry Rayfan, Hereto, Homo, Trans or Bi, I don't care. If you're nice to me, I will be nice back to you.

[iambored2006]

Actually, the process of aging goes like this: every time a cell splits, it's DNA line gets shorter. Once the DNA line is short enough, the cells who are the descendants of the former cell all die. Cancer infected cells are the only ones who's DNA line doesn't get shorter. If you put these cells in an environment where they have an infinite amount of food and their droppings are cleaned, the first cell, from which they all come, is practically immortal. If we can harness that mutation to make regular cells so, there would be no aging. I've tried so hard to make my mom, who's an oncologist, look at it this way, with no luck.

Are you referring to telomeres? I admit I have only a basic understanding of genetic ageing, but I imagine that such a gene therapy method – modifying all of a person’s cells to deactivate the ageing process – would not be as efficient as a nanotechnological one. People with immortal cells would still die from disease, murder, accidents or general wear and tear. The average life-span might only be extended by a few centuries.

I expect nanomachines could be programmed to replace or repair every cell with a fresh one when its telomere becomes too short, or even every time it divides. There are many other advantages to nanotechnology – one proposed use is to replace a person’s red blood cells with extremely efficient artificial ones. This would allow a person to go hours at a time without breathing, or perform super-human athletic feats.

Probably. I didn't learn the names of all these things. I guess you're right, that nanotechnology is more efficient, but I think it would take more time to perfect such a robot, while it would take less time to make a cure for the shortening of the telomeres.


BTW, I won't be on my computer for 3 days now, since it's new year's for me. Goodbye, cruel electronic world!

[Adsolution]

We know now of so many worlds where there'll be a moskito flight level.

RayFan, I realized what disturbed me so much about your story, other than all the obvious stuff. It reminds me of Catcher in the Rye. I've read it over the summer for English class, and the main character, Holden Caulfield, is a disturbed teenager whom I can closely relate to.

#SPOILERS ABOUT CATCHER IN THE RYE AHEAD#
His little brother died of leukemia, and a friend of his who gets bullied jumps out o the window in their school. Holden obviously became so judgmental of society and so depressed because of these deaths. Your story seems very similar to Holden's, only yours has a good ending.
#END OF SPOILERS#

What do you think, RayFan?

Woot, Moskito's my favourite!

And what can I say? I'll say I think I need to read that book. It sounds like it could be the most important book in my life, if you know what I mean.

@Spiral: yes she had the abortion. Sorry I got the timing a little mixed up. She moved away on December 1st. It was actually quite sad because it started snowing on the 28th of November, the day she told me she was leaving, and it snowed until the 2nd.

I've been keeping watch on biological advancement in technology, and I find it so incredibly fascinating with all the control and knowledge we have. It's one of the school courses that thoroughly immerses me. If I weren't a musician, I would definitely go into genetics.

If I had the choice to live a thousand years, I would definitely take it, no questions asked.

[Shrooblord]

Hey, hey! Biology and genes! That's the area I'm interested in. A lot of interesting things have been discussed, I read. And I share your opinion, Rayfan, when it comes to technology, I'm amazed at how far we've come on the whole - and only in a few decades time! And spiral, I think prolonging a lifespan for 'only a few centuries' would still be pretty long in human standards. Anyway, we don't want true immortality - what would happen to world population? The world would burst out of its boundraries because of the overflow of humans.
Still, it's a nice idea to replace bloodcells with nanobots or cure the loss of DNA and thus eliminating aging. Maybe if we were to combine both theories, we could get some sort of never-aging, immortal and youthful humanoid - and I say humanoid because at that point, one might argue the being can no longer be considered human; with machines running the insides and nature being thwarted on the outside, what is left of the human itself? This is not how I think though, but I thought I'd put the possible opinion out there anyway.

I'm still quite fascinated about how one set of molecules can become this living, breathing, thinking organism. How in the world does electrical currents infused in meaty and liquidicly run substance translate to thinking, concepts, ideas? It's wonderful. Truely wonderful.

[spiraldoor]

Yeah, the world can only hold so many people. But what about the universe? There’s enough room for everyone out there, and off-world colonies should become much more practical as we eliminate various bodily limitations (dependence on oxygen and traditional food, vulnerability to radiation, and fleshy squishiness in general). Alternatively it may become possible to nanotechnologically terraform other planets – make them Earth-like. If nanomachines become accurate enough to manipulate individual protons, neutrons and electrons, we could use them to disassemble any raw material and reconstruct it into literally anything. Since nanomachines could even be programmed to copy themselves endlessly, they should be able to achieve unimaginable goals relatively quickly.

I don’t believe that the advanced civilisations of the future will wish to retain their human bodies. Some artifical body parts, such as arms and legs, work very well already. Artificial hearts are sometimes implanted to keep people who are awaiting biological heart transplants alive a little longer. Artificial eyes which interface with the brain are currently at a very early stage. Eventually it will become possible to replace every single part of the body with synthetic versions that are far superior in every way. The brain is obviously a bit trickier – one method to make it effectively immortal would be to replace each brain cell, one at a time, with an identical synthetic version. You wouldn’t even notice it – after all, every single cell in our bodies is naturally replaced every few months anyway. Nanotechnology should make the process very quick and easy.

[Shrooblord]

Very nice indeed. I had thought about the space travel and terraforming (since I'm also into that) but didn't want to bring it up in case I started a massive wall of speculation that nobody's waiting for - but if anyone's open for discussion, I am; I love talking about space and biology and life and I guess science in general - but also music and art and... whatnot.

Anyway, spiral, I believe braincells are the one type of cells that do not get replaced, are they not? They stay as they are your entire life and make new connections with other braincells to form your memories and learned behaviour, but they themselves are never replaced, are they? Isn't this way diseases as dementia and damaged braincells are so hard to fight - because there is no way of replacing the cells with new ones?

It would be cool to encounter a squid-human from the future who has disposed of its natural limitations and has become boneless, to as such become any shape it wishes... or maybe a humanoid electroplasmatic entity made of pure energy... but that's all quite farfetched indeed.

And to keep you entertained, a most excellent and short story by Terry Bisson, entitled 'Meat':
http://www.terrybisson.com/page6/page6.html

[Rayman3DS]

STOP TALKING OFF-TOPIC!!!
PLEASE!!

[spiraldoor]

The idea that brain cells are for life is a myth (or maybe it’s just an outdated theory); either way, it’s not true. Each molecule in the brain is replaced every couple of months, yet our consciousness persists. With the right technology, it should be possible to divert this process so that the brain is instead transformed into a superior synthetic substrate for the mind, essentially turning an person into a machine without any loss of what makes them what they are.

Maybe we should make a technology thread.

[Cairnie]

Yes please do or we are really going to start deducting tings.

[Haruka]

If the Daily Bubble had really new things I believe the off-topic discussion would have ended.

[ikke471]

If the Daily Bubble had really new things I believe the off-topic discussion would have ended.

The big chicken battle was new..
+ we now know only globox will have the small moskito/bzzit

[Droolie]

To bring more news, Rayman's French facebook fan page has a "contest" up that allows you to win stuff, apparently. It's pretty easy - you'll see.
http://www.facebook.com/rayman.france
I wonder if the prizes will be any different from the ones we're getting for the art contest?

[Haruka]

Rayman Quiz?

I guess I'll try it out with my mother's Facebook.

[Cairnie]

My French is still rusty but I've entered anyways haha.

[Adsolution]

Oh, thank you Spanex.

Personally I don't like Ubisoft's strategy here. They're giving the fans too much. We already know basically the layout of the entire game, characters and whatnot. I feel that by the time the game is released we're going to have felt like we've already played it thoroughly. With large pieces of info coming every two or three days, I don't really see the the sense of adventure. I know they're trying to keep us young and impatient Rayman fans busy, but I think they're keeping us a little too busy.

+ we now know only globox will have the small moskito/bzzit

That is ridiculously ironic.

Ooh nice, a quiz. I like quizzes.

[Spanex]

Rayfan is right. I think I'll avoid reading new DBs and interviews for the next two months.

[Haruka]

It is a weekly quiz. I think the people with most correct answers might get the oportunity to win goodies.

[ikke471]

To bring more news, Rayman's French facebook fan page has a "contest" up that allows you to win stuff, apparently. It's pretty easy - you'll see.
http://www.facebook.com/rayman.france
I wonder if the prizes will be any different from the ones we're getting for the art contest?

where can i see that quiz?