Rayman: Revenge of the Dark

[Adsolution]

Honestly, if someone wants to donate something that will make less than a difference, then don't waste your money.

[Rulez]

Don't worry, I don't plan to waist my money on helping you.



WASTING it, on the other hand is a better deal!

[Adsolution]

Ugh, fucking spelling, I was never good at it. You know what I mean though.

[Pusianka]

I don't get this. People, [EDIT] IN MY HUMBLE OPINION donation would be more appropriate if Rayfan was doing the whole thing for free, but she isn't. She's like a corporation now. Why donate to sth and then pay for the product you supported earlier. No offence just reasonable thinking. She has to deal with technicalities and production costs by herself.

[EDIT] BUT THAT'S JUST MY POINT OF VIEW. WHAT IS YOURS?

[PowerPatrick]

I don't get this. People, donation would be more appropriate if Rayfan was doing the whole thing for free, but she isn't. She's like a corporation now. Why donate to sth and then pay for the product you supported earlier. No offence just reasonable thinking. She has to deal with technicalities and production costs by herself.

We want to donate because we want to save this project, as it's endangered by data loss. Losing it would be the worst thing ever to happen, even to this community, but especially to RayFan who worked on this for about 4 years now. Just imagine losing the greatest works of your life, that you've spent countless hours of huge efforts to create. This project is all made by heart from an individual with a real creative stance, having a desire to show the world a great and magnificent accomplishment that everyone can enjoy. I would rather support this project anytime than any big-assed multi-million dollar game corporation that can afford anything. RayFan would have a hard time affording to pay a professional data recovery company to restore her data. Yes, one of her minor goals is to introduce this game to the Ubisoft studios. But with this project, she's motivated and doing it for the art, not the money, unlike what you think in your twisted world. If you still don't understand it, then leave this commmunity and get fucked really cruelly, because you're barely even contributing at all. I'm not calling that reasonable thinking at all, because there's a lot of things you didn't even consider, as you think it's all simply a joke.

Honestly, if someone wants to donate something that will make less than a difference, then don't waste your money.

You're really underestimating how much donations can help. Even small donations can make a differences when it's done by many members. And we're not wasting it at all, it's all done for a good cause. I would rather help you and your project, rather than buying any personal goods or other selfish stuff. In fact, I'm willing to donate beyond $200 if I really have to, genuinely. And if we don't manage to recover the data ourselves, and we've found a great data recovery company that hopefully has a fixed price, I'll create a thread explaining the situation and asking for donations to your accounts, and I'll also promote it at some places. The thread will also contain a donation ticker that you can edit, which sums up the total amount of donations.

[Haruka]

I don't get this. People, donation would be more appropriate if Rayfan was doing the whole thing for free, but she isn't. She's like a corporation now. Why donate to sth and then pay for the product you supported earlier. No offence just reasonable thinking. She has to deal with technicalities and production costs by herself.

@PP You're absolutely right.

Pusianka, since when RayFan said she would want profit with this game? She isn't asking money to anybody, and she's working hard and alone in this project for 4 years. As PP said, would you like that a big project from you would sink forever for any unprediction? Would you like that everyone declined your help request? If Rayman Pirate-Community was under risk of closing and loosing all its data due to financial problems, would you refuse to help aswell?
You were also saying that like if paying 1000$ was like going to a café and buying a bubble gum. What the hell, really! I feel anguished that I can't help RayFan at the moment, or else I wouldn't even blink. I want to see this project concluded, not watching it sink like Costa Concordia.

[Pusianka]

I'm just saying "donations" is not the way you do it. And as for the example of RPC being closed - no, I wouldn't help financially as well.

[PowerPatrick]

I'm just saying "donations" is not the way you do it. And as for the example of RPC being closed - no, I wouldn't help financially as well.

What is this nonsense bullshit to say? Are you evening listening and understanding? Are you really going so far, implying that you don't care at all about this community, and refuse to help anyone here, especially when they really need it? Aha, so you're simply here to show off as a narcissistic attention whore, a useless and pathetic piece of shit.

Please, get the fuck off, NOW, we don't need you here.

Another one goes into my ignorelist: ucp.php?i=zebra&mode=foes&add=Pusianka

[spiraldoor]

PowerPatrick, your reaction to Pusianka’s post is way out of line. He stated his views in a way that was calm and honest. Not everyone is interested in fangames, and not everyone likes giving away money to people on the internet. Deal with it. Cut the white-knight bullshit. Stop insulting people and telling them they shouldn’t be members of this community; that’s not for you to decide.

[El Dango]

Wow, this sucks man, I really do hope that the project can be saved.

[Pusianka]

I'm just saying "donations" is not the way you do it. And as for the example of RPC being closed - no, I wouldn't help financially as well.

What is this nonsense bullshit to say? Are you evening listening and understanding? Are you really going so far, implying that you don't care at all about this community, and refuse to help anyone here, especially when they really need it? Aha, so you're simply here to show off as a narcissistic attention whore, a useless and pathetic piece of shit.

Please, get the fuck off, NOW, we don't need you here.

Another one goes into my ignorelist: ucp.php?i=zebra&mode=foes&add=Pusianka

kiddo approved. Sooner or later you'll have to start taking "NO" for an answer.

[PowerPatrick]

PowerPatrick, your reaction to Pusianka’s post is way out of line. He stated his views in a way that was calm and honest. Not everyone is interested in fangames, and not everyone likes giving away money to people on the internet. Deal with it. Cut the white-knight bullshit. Stop insulting people and telling them they shouldn’t be members of this community; that’s not for you to decide.

'Cut the white-knight bullshit'? It's always to be expected that you would always appear with such obscure remarks. I have no reason to be nice to Pusianka when he comes with such unconstructive statements. It really boils my piss instantly. I don't smear my own fucking turd in my face for only loving myself and my own interests. But I'm not going to discuss further about this.

[Pusianka]

Funny guy^^

[Edit]: oooh why did you editted the last part it was like icing on the cake. It made me laugh!

[spiraldoor]

'Cut the white-knight bullshit'? It's always to be expected that you would always appear with such obscure remarks.

‘White knight’ – a misguided individual who thinks of themselves as a crusader for righteousness and attacks those whose attitudes do not align with their own. I wasn’t aware that this phrase was ‘obscure’, so thank you for pointing that out, I suppose.

I have no reason to be nice to Pusianka when he comes with such unconstructive statements.

All he did was express a belief that fangames should be funded by the developers. I don’t entirely agree, but I find it a perfectly acceptable position for someone to hold. I could understand your reaction if his post had been antagonistic or wilfully offensive, but that’s the problem – it wasn’t. Surely you can see the irony in accusing someone of making an ‘unconstructive’ post while simultaneousy calling them a ‘pathetic piece of shit’?

I don't smear my own fucking turd in my face for only loving myself and my own interests.

What is that supposed to mean?

kiddo approved. Sooner or later you'll have to start taking "NO" for an answer.

Don't expect anyone to care about you, I'll make sure they all know about this.

Am I mistaken, or are you threatening some kind of personal vendetta here? If so, did you remove it from your post because you had second thoughts, or because you wanted it to be a secret? Are you really going to try and start some kind of smear campaign against another member for the crime of not caring about a fangame?

[MLII]

PP, while I don't particularly agree with Pusianka, that was kind of unnecessary. o-o'


As for you, Raye, I don't really have any money of my own, and my mom has to pay for a shizload of GSCEs for me and my brother. But I'll make journals on dA about it and get my friends involved. Is that okay?

[Shrooblord]

Hooooooly crap. Oh my god this is awful. I wish I could do something to help you out, RayFan! I also hope your stuff won't be lost and that when (notice the implicit when) you get it repaired, you'll still have enough money or resources to create back-ups... what misfortune to befall you, of all people.

And Pusianka, too bad you feel that way. PowerPatrick, I can understand your anger completely. I was a hothead in the past too - and this is something to get angry about; a project you love in jeopardy and someone else seems to make offensive remarks. However, we can curse upon the people we don't like from behind our screens, not through our screens.

As for your music, RayFan, it's really good! I'm listening to it right now as I'm writing this - well, kinda; my speakers are phasing so at one point I can hear music and at another I hear near-silence - and I think it's got a real creative spark in it that I've been missing in some of your other tracks (no offence). Have the BEST of luck restoring your fantastic work!

And for a special occassion, a song to go onto that final song from your soundtrack (Phase One redux).

Forever more, lost in strands of time
In a state of primitive grace, the sands run down its neck
In the Temporal Palace, where Rhook watches over you
Lost in a place long ago, at a time far away

But remembered
And echoed through history
He will return stronger

He will return
He will face the darkness,
Beat that ghoul back into the void, whence he came
You better run, his powerful fists
Will beat you 'till you're smoke and pulp and your legion's turned to mist
Dark Rayman, your time is up
Your hourglass's been emptied - the vulture cries your name
Your game is over, no more escape
Here comes your nemesis, this is your end of days

He has returned, he has returned
Infused with the power of all you would have burned
Your army's beaten, your influence shrinks
The land will be free once more, it's over in mere blinks

Your fate is sealed
He has returned, he has returned

Aeons ago, in the centre of the Dreamer's mind,
This moment was decided and it's outcome was alike
You are to die, there's no other way
None can take your place
Farewell, lord of darkness,
Your time is up

No more return, no more return
No more return

~You may decide what you think of that yourself - just don't tell me~

[SuperSunshine]

I don't think i'll beable to donate much but if you do end up getting a Paypal account I'll donate somewhere near $20 and whatever I end up having over the course of this period.

But for now. I'm broke.

[PowerPatrick]

Thanks Shroob, that was a useful post.

I always try to converse rationally and open-minded, when it's not about catastrophic situations like these. The reason why I'm pissed at Pusianka, is because he's really not caring about what's at stake, and posts something completely irrelevant and provoking to the situation, which is what I meant by unconstructive earlier. It's worse when he only spends the time on this forum to show off his own stuff (I looked at his history of posts, he created threads for himself to be 'admired'). I also understand why Spiraldoor reacted as he did, but what I don't understand is why he's always insisting to cover every unnecessary details, which basically derails the thread and turns the focus away from the actual subject. (Spiral, if you want to argue on this, please send me a PM instead)

Now let's not talk about this anymore, and only focus on the things that actually matters.

[Haruka]

I don't censure anyone who is not willing to help. I wish the best of luck for you, RayFan.

[Adsolution]

I don't get this. People, donation would be more appropriate if Rayfan was doing the whole thing for free, but she isn't. She's like a corporation now. Why donate to sth and then pay for the product you supported earlier. No offence just reasonable thinking. She has to deal with technicalities and production costs by herself.

I'm just saying "donations" is not the way you do it. And as for the example of RPC being closed - no, I wouldn't help financially as well.

I'm fully capable of dealing with the money issue myself, but I don't see why you have to go out of your way to prevent people from helping if they want to.

Honestly, if someone wants to donate something that will make less than a difference, then don't waste your money.

You're really underestimating how much donations can help. Even small donations can make a differences when it's done by many members. And we're not wasting it at all, it's all done for a good cause. I would rather help you and your project, rather than buying any personal goods or other selfish stuff. In fact, I'm willing to donate beyond $200 if I really have to, genuinely. And if we don't manage to recover the data ourselves, and we've found a great data recovery company that hopefully has a fixed price, I'll create a thread explaining the situation and asking for donations to your accounts, and I'll also promote it at some places. The thread will also contain a donation ticker that you can edit, which sums up the total amount of donations.

That would be somewhat helpful.

As for you, Raye, I don't really have any money of my own, and my mom has to pay for a shizload of GSCEs for me and my brother. But I'll make journals on dA about it and get my friends involved. Is that okay?

That's alright, it's entirely up to you.

I feel clumsy accepting donations.

As for your music, RayFan, it's really good! I'm listening to it right now as I'm writing this - well, kinda; my speakers are phasing so at one point I can hear music and at another I hear near-silence - and I think it's got a real creative spark in it that I've been missing in some of your other tracks (no offence).

I'm sad to see that this is the only truly on-topic post in the last two pages. Are they any more comments/suggestions/feedback?

And for a special occassion, a song to go onto that final song from your soundtrack (Phase One redux).

Forever more, lost in strands of time
In a state of primitive grace, the sands run down its neck
In the Temporal Palace, where Rhook watches over you
Lost in a place long ago, at a time far away

But remembered
And echoed through history
He will return stronger

He will return
He will face the darkness,
Beat that ghoul back into the void, whence he came
You better run, his powerful fists
Will beat you 'till you're smoke and pulp and your legion's turned to mist
Dark Rayman, your time is up
Your hourglass's been emptied - the vulture cries your name
Your game is over, no more escape
Here comes your nemesis, this is your end of days

He has returned, he has returned
Infused with the power of all you would have burned
Your army's beaten, your influence shrinks
The land will be free once more, it's over in mere blinks

Your fate is sealed
He has returned, he has returned

Aeons ago, in the centre of the Dreamer's mind,
This moment was decided and it's outcome was alike
You are to die, there's no other way
None can take your place
Farewell, lord of darkness,
Your time is up

No more return, no more return
No more return

~You may decide what you think of that yourself - just don't tell me~

You posted it here, so I'll end up sharing my thoughts: Interesting, can you show me how the lyrics fit into the song?