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[Adsolution]

I’m astonished that anyone could make such an ignorant and one-sided comment with any degree of seriousness. You sound like a character in a bad parody. You’ve bought so deeply into your own side’s propaganda that you have lost all perspective. You genuinely believe that you are objectively correct, and that everyone who disagrees with you is simply wrong. You cannot even muster an ounce of respect or civility in dealing with your opponents.

No, Spiral, I was actually poking a little fun, I'm not that ignorant for fuck's sake. Each side has their opinions, and as we all know very well, when it comes to liberalism versus conservatism, the argument isn't ever won. We are just two completely different mindsets.

And to top it all off, you think it’s OK for a guy to fuck his dog.

That's an Ignoratio elenchi if I ever saw one. Spiraldork, you know better than to play that low. Who needs a hug?

You never cease to amaze me.

Why thank you. I am quite an interesting specimen, aren't I? Human.

how is anyone supposed to know how it even feels

If you've ever been close to a pet (I don't necessarily mean in a sexual way), then you'll find that it's VERY easy to tell if they like something or not. When I said I didn't have a problem with bestiality, I was speaking with regards to the animal's safety and comfort, which in actuality is quite a rare case of occurrence. Most people who commit it don't think about those things, or they do and don't care. That is obviously animal cruelty. I think that unless you have a really big pet, it isn't going to work. Just the concept, if there weren't any safety or comfort roadblocks, to me is fine. I don't see why it wouldn't be. Unfortunately there are roadblocks, and unless a way around them is found, then I don't think it's right. Just like with anything else. I don't think intercourse needs to be its own separate and sacred thing that for some reason exists with fewer experimental privileges. It's just an action, like tossing a ball.

So yes, SpirillusDoorway, I think that it is okay, if all precautions are met, for a man, woman, or androgynous human to fuck his, her, or their male, female, or androgynous dog or mixed incestual breed.

Tallyho.

[Xenon]

Haha, experimental privileges? Would you really consider having sex with an animal to be a sexual privilege?

My view is the same as Stacey's. As far as ethics are concerned, no animal should be subjected to anything it doesn't want to do, be it sexual intercourse (even saying this disgusts me), violence et cetera. As far as everything else is concerned, it's pretty absurd for a human to want to have sex with an animal. I'm all for a free society, but shagging animals is a step too far...

[Adsolution]

Haha, experimental privileges? Would you really consider having sex with an animal to be a sexual privilege?

Well, I used the word "privilege" for a satirical purpose, but it wasn't well timed. Pretend I said "possibility" instead.

As far as ethics are concerned, no animal should be subjected to anything it doesn't want to do

Exactly, I agree fully.

(even saying this disgusts me)

Irrelevant, but fair enough.

As far as everything else is concerned, it's pretty absurd for a human to want to have sex with an animal.I'm all for a free society, but shagging animals is a step too far...

I do think it is quite a laaaaaaaarrge step out of the norm, but in my opinion, like anything, I don't have a problem with it if all is well with both parties.

[spiraldoor]

And to top it all off, you think it’s OK for a guy to fuck his dog.

That's an Ignoratio elenchi if I ever saw one. Spiraldork, you know better than to play that low.

I explained in detail what was wrong with the ignorant and insulting statement you now claim was ‘poking a little fun’. According to the link you have provided, you are alleging that I did not address the issue in question. Since this is patently false, it would seem that you do not understand the concept you’ve invoked.

[Adsolution]

And to top it all off, you think it’s OK for a guy to fuck his dog.

That's an Ignoratio elenchi if I ever saw one. Spiraldork, you know better than to play that low.

I explained in detail what was wrong with the ignorant and insulting statement you now claim was ‘poking a little fun’. According to the link you have provided, you are alleging that I did not address the issue in question. Since this is patently false, it would seem that you do not understand the concept you’ve invoked.

Not so. You decided to take a step backward and generalize as if it were, as a whole, a vile, despicable act. While that may be the case in your eyes, you addressed it as if it were too stupid of a thing to be debated, and that the obvious answer would be to think of it as such. Basically, because you took such a large backward step and decided to completely not address the content of the subject, and instead mock the notion of bestiality as a whole, you have committed an Ignoratio Elenchi.

However, this also leads all the way back to my original post of the journal: you've clearly shown you did not read it properly, as I clearly stated through the words I chose in the journal and in direct confrontation that I did not state my views on bestiality in the journal. It was very, very clear that I only used bestiality as an fast example of other social possibilities, not as a definition of moral comprehension, so I don't know how you could misinterpret that so quickly in your first response. I also am going to point out that the bestiality example I gave served about 1/500th of the journal's actual meaning, but it's also demonstrated how the social boundaries have clouded your mind into perceiving it as nothing else other than a crime against nature.

[DesLife]

Let's move on.

[Adsolution]

Let's move on.

[spiraldoor]

Sorry DesLife, I wrote up a response before I saw your post. I’ll just leave it here:

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[quote="RayFan9876"]Not so. You decided to take a step backward and generalize as if it were, as a whole, a vile, despicable act. While that may be the case in your eyes, you addressed it as if it were too stupid of a thing to be debated, and that the obvious answer would be to think of it as such.[/quote]I do find your views on bestiality sickening and disturbing, but how can you possibly think that I view the subject as too stupid to be debated? The fact that I’ve already debated it with you today seems to suggest a lapse in memory on your part.
[quote="RayFan9876"]Basically, because you took such a large backward step and decided to completely not address the content of the subject, and instead mock the notion of bestiality as a whole, you have committed an Ignoratio Elenchi.[/quote]The purpose of my comment (that you think it’s OK to shag a dog) was to highlight the fact that you condone bestiality. I think this provides a relevant insight into your mind and shows that arguing with you is not likely to yield anything of worth. Your claim that I ‘decided to completely not address the content of the subject’ is patently false; my post up to that point was focused directly on the contents of your previous one. As I clearly specified (‘to top it all off’), my final comment was intended to act not as the bulk of my argument, but as an amusing and disturbing little observation. I can’t believe I have to explain this is such detail.
[quote="RayFan9876"]However, this also leads all the way back to my original post of the journal: you've clearly shown you did not read it properly, as I clearly stated through the words I chose in the journal and in direct confrontation that I did not state my views on bestiality in the journal. It was very, very clear that I only used bestiality as an fast example of other social possibilities, not as a definition of moral comprehension, so I don't know how you could misinterpret that so quickly in your first response. I also am going to point out that the bestiality example I gave served about 1/500th of the journal's actual meaning, but it's also demonstrated how the social boundaries have clouded your mind into perceiving it as nothing else than a crime against nature.[/quote]First of all, I specifically stated in my initial post that I did not read your journal entry, as I was too disgusted by the opening lines. In any case, what I read was enough for me to conclude that you supported bestiality. You admitted that this was indeed the case soon afterwards; I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make by questioning the logic I used to arrive at my correct conclusion.

You can have the last word if you like; I’m not interested in discussing this any further with you.

[THEdragon]

I posted a huge post about the amazing things my mind does in a near-sleep state, and everyone has an argument over shagging animals.

Real classy.

[DesLife]

I share your disappointment.

[Adsolution]

I posted a huge post about the amazing things my mind does in a near-sleep state, and everyone has an argument over shagging animals.

I'm sorry for your loss.

[Haruka]

Haha, experimental privileges? Would you really consider having sex with an animal to be a sexual privilege?

My view is the same as Stacey's. As far as ethics are concerned, no animal should be subjected to anything it doesn't want to do, be it sexual intercourse (even saying this disgusts me), violence et cetera. As far as everything else is concerned, it's pretty absurd for a human to want to have sex with an animal. I'm all for a free society, but shagging animals is a step too far...

Same opinion in here.

Other subjects, please watch this: http://portal.sliderocket.com/BBVXH/Hoshyar-Foundation

[Rulez]

People, I'm planning to make another music video with Gutek the B.C. Rich Warlock player teddy bear, the squeaky guy, the blue drummer and DJ Lopez, this time with a professional white photography background and 720p or 1080p (so HD either way), but I need an idea what song to make a video to. However I have some criteria - it must be longer than 2 minutes, yet shorter than 4 minutes and here's the critical part - it must have some drum solo. I'm sorry, but it's what I need because I have it perfectly prepared and I can't just say ''man fuck dat shit'' with a Yao Ming face and throw it away. So to anyone who shows me the best (or tells me the artist/name of it) song will get... err, his name will appear in the credits and he will receive up to 500 Tings. Deal?

EDIT: OH and it needs vocals. Mr. Squeakly (le purple gay guy) can't be left out of this.

[DesLife]

Fuck vocals.

[Adsolution]

They have brought grade nine history class to life:



The atmosphere is beyond phenomenal. We need Ancel to have this team creating Rayman for the love of everything that is good.

Also, the main character's name is Connor = my brother's name!

[DesLife]

Bof. This trailer didn't impress me at all.

[Adsolution]

Bof. This trailer didn't impress me at all.

Your opinion is wrong.

[DesLife]

Your mom's wrong. And fat.

[Adsolution]

Your mom's wrong. And fat.

Thank you for pointing out the obvious.

[Rulez]

Your mom's wrong. And fat.

Thank you for pointing out the obvious.

If I were the original insulting one, I would say 'Touché' right now.