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spiraldoor wrote:It sounds to me like you cut yourself because you really want your brother to pay attention to you.
I actually totally missed that.

What was it specifically or generally that caused you to cut yourself though?
Spanex wrote:I actually have a similar problem. I don't think my brother (he is older) understands that my feelings get deeply hurt when he calls me out when he thinks I did something wrong. I was told he doesn't mean it that way, but the tone of voice he uses just...ugh. It just burns, you know? At some point it made me wish I was a single child.

Once, rather than asking me about it first, he simply accused me unjustly of leaving wet washcloths in the bathroom. So, how did he punish me? He dropped them right on my chair. That's right. And when I asked about who did it, he began to cuss me out.

And though that's not even one of the worst things he did to make me feel like crap, it was the last straw. I didn't know what to do, so I talked with my mother about it. And even though I should have spoken to him, it was her who began the confrontation.

I'm not a person who can fight back. Especially against abusive family members. When he does these things and backtalks, I just shut down. Defeated.

Sometimes I think he likes to pick on me just for the reason I'm so easy to pick on...
I get the feeling that the older sibling often does have a different mindset in terms of family relationship - since it's been that way all their life, and it would be almost literally impossible for them to stand in the younger sibling's shoes. They've been older than you, and they always will be. However, I do believe there's always some of the relationship trouble to be placed on the younger sibling, but hardly any in comparison, since the younger in reality is rarely on the offense.
ikke471 wrote:nah sorry rayfan... but serieusly everyone gets mad at me today for some reason.... I kinda deserved that one from you though xD
Hahah, that's alright I suppose.
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RayFan9876 wrote:I get the feeling that the older sibling often does have a different mindset in terms of family relationship - since it's been that way all their life, and it would be almost literally impossible for them to stand in the younger sibling's shoes. They've been older than you, and they always will be. However, I do believe there's always some of the relationship trouble to be placed on the younger sibling, but hardly any in comparison, since the younger in reality is rarely on the offense.
I'm not sure if it's a valid assumption, but sometimes I get the feeling he acts like he does towards me for my you-know-what, and not necessarily that I'm the younger sibling. And like I said, I was told that he doesn't really mean to hurt my feelings. But it still passes over as that very often from the way he speaks to me.

Suddenly I feel like a fragile little butterfly. :lol:
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Spanex wrote:
RayFan9876 wrote:I get the feeling that the older sibling often does have a different mindset in terms of family relationship - since it's been that way all their life, and it would be almost literally impossible for them to stand in the younger sibling's shoes. They've been older than you, and they always will be. However, I do believe there's always some of the relationship trouble to be placed on the younger sibling, but hardly any in comparison, since the younger in reality is rarely on the offense.
I'm not sure if it's a valid assumption, but sometimes I get the feeling he acts like he does towards me for my you-know-what, and not necessarily that I'm the younger sibling. And like I said, I was told that he doesn't really mean to hurt my feelings. But it still passes over as that very often from the way he speaks to me.

Suddenly I feel like a fragile little butterfly. :lol:
Wait, really? If I were in that (possible) situation, I would want to fly to the other side of the planet. Yikes. I hope that isn't the case.
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RayFan9876 wrote:
Spanex wrote:
RayFan9876 wrote:I get the feeling that the older sibling often does have a different mindset in terms of family relationship - since it's been that way all their life, and it would be almost literally impossible for them to stand in the younger sibling's shoes. They've been older than you, and they always will be. However, I do believe there's always some of the relationship trouble to be placed on the younger sibling, but hardly any in comparison, since the younger in reality is rarely on the offense.
I'm not sure if it's a valid assumption, but sometimes I get the feeling he acts like he does towards me for my you-know-what, and not necessarily that I'm the younger sibling. And like I said, I was told that he doesn't really mean to hurt my feelings. But it still passes over as that very often from the way he speaks to me.

Suddenly I feel like a fragile little butterfly. :lol:
Wait, really? If I were in that (possible) situation, I would want to fly to the other side of the planet. Yikes. I hope that isn't the case.
Well guess where I'm going for 3 weeks this summer?
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Spanex wrote:Well guess where I'm going for 3 weeks this summer?
The United-States of Amerrrrica (please say Canada)?
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RayFan9876 wrote:
Spanex wrote:Well guess where I'm going for 3 weeks this summer?
The United-States of Amerrrrica (please say Canada)?
Sorry.. C': We go to Boston and New York first, then to California to see the Grand Canyon, then fly all the way home again.
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I hope you have fun! You can call me if you ever go to Portugal. :P
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Thanks! Who knows, maybe we might, me and my mother have big plans to see the world.
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Spanex wrote:
RayFan9876 wrote:
Spanex wrote:Well guess where I'm going for 3 weeks this summer?
The United-States of Amerrrrica (please say Canada)?
Sorry.. C': We go to Boston and New York first, then to California to see the Grand Canyon, then fly all the way home again.
Stupid America. Truthfully, there are many, many more beautiful sites in Canada. Canada is basically the Grand Canyon but everywhere, but extremely varied, and more mountain/river/waterfall/lush than anywhere else in the world. We have every landscape imaginable. People going to the US to sightsee is really funny when you think about it, unless they're going to sightsee the cities.
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RayFan9876 wrote:
Spanex wrote:
RayFan9876 wrote:
Spanex wrote:Well guess where I'm going for 3 weeks this summer?
The United-States of Amerrrrica (please say Canada)?
Sorry.. C': We go to Boston and New York first, then to California to see the Grand Canyon, then fly all the way home again.
Stupid America. Truthfully, there are many, many more beautiful sites in Canada. Canada is basically the Grand Canyon but everywhere, but extremely varied, and more mountain/river/waterfall/lush than anywhere else in the world. We have every landscape imaginable. People going to the US to sightsee is really funny when you think about it, unless they're going to sightsee the cities.
I'll talk with my mum about it. How's that sound? :D
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Spanex wrote:I'll talk with my mum about it. How's that sound? :D
Heehawh, do as you please. That's just my viable opinion.
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Spanex wrote:I'm not sure if it's a valid assumption, but sometimes I get the feeling he acts like he does towards me for my you-know-what, and not necessarily that I'm the younger sibling.
Do you realise how creepy that sounds?
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spiraldoor wrote:
Spanex wrote:I'm not sure if it's a valid assumption, but sometimes I get the feeling he acts like he does towards me for my you-know-what, and not necessarily that I'm the younger sibling.
Do you realise how creepy that sounds?
Sorry, no. And you don't need to know about what it really means.
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spiraldoor wrote:
Spanex wrote:I'm not sure if it's a valid assumption, but sometimes I get the feeling he acts like he does towards me for my you-know-what, and not necessarily that I'm the younger sibling.
Do you realise how creepy that sounds?
I think we all did, which is why that question never needed to be asked.
Spanex wrote:
spiraldoor wrote:
Spanex wrote:I'm not sure if it's a valid assumption, but sometimes I get the feeling he acts like he does towards me for my you-know-what, and not necessarily that I'm the younger sibling.
Do you realise how creepy that sounds?
Sorry, no. And you don't need to know about what it really means.
Is there something you're unconventionally used to?
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I just don't feel the need to shout it all over the place is all. I should not have mentioned it. Sorry about that.
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Spanex wrote:I just don't feel the need to shout it all over the place is all. I should not have mentioned it. Sorry about that.
It's alright, that's the point of this thread.

I can't count how many things I wish I hadn't said though, namely one recently.
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spiraldoor wrote:It sounds to me like you cut yourself because you really want your brother to pay attention to you.
As much as I'd love to agree, I'd have to say no. This was before my brother began the asshatiness; in fact I think the not caring was the start of it.
RayFan9876 wrote:I swear that was an exact copypasta of something I posted a while ago.
I had you in mind when I typed it :P
RayFan9876 wrote:As for your brother, relationship speaking, I think you have the worst kind. The way your brother talks to me is similar to the way my "mother" talks to me, and it feels so incredibly degrading. My "brother" does it too, but he's hardly around (he's usually out with friends getting drunk and performing with his band). If you're on your last legs, all I can probably suggest is doing something that proves to him that you're more than a "little sister" (I assume he's older than you, right?). I haven't succeeded at that yet, albeit I would have tried harder if he were around more, but for me it's just not worth it anymore. You live with your brother though, so I think it's plenty worth it to really surprise him with something. Unless you already do this, try doing something for him that would be completely against your normal interests and inside his, and see if he likes it. If he criticizes it, then... shit. If he is actually pleasantly surprised and it's the first nice reaction you get out of him, then maybe, through unnecessary acting on your part he'll start to like you more. I can't really say if that will happen or not, but it kind of seems like one of those possible things to me.
Thanks for the adivce. o3o I didn't know you had it the same tbh.

The thing is though, i don't know what's in his interests. I tried talking to him about music videos; I asked if he'd seen the one for If I Were A Boy ( which I think is pretty neat) and his response was "no." -walks off- which isn't very comforting.

But thank you, I'll see if I can try something else

RayFan9876 wrote: What was it specifically or generally that caused you to cut yourself though?
Like I said, I don't remember. I think it was something to do with an article on the internet about banning under-6s from resteraunts. If I remember correctly it wasn't the article that made me sad, it was the coments which were basically comprised of I HATE KIDS AND ANYONE UNDER 21 SHOULD BE BANNED FROM GOING ANYWHERE EXCEPT FOR CHUCKY CHEESE I'M ANTI BREEDER AND PROUD and bascially went on about how they'd euthinise every child on the planet if they could.

I'm sure it wasn't just that though, there has to be something else. I'm not THAT sensitive.
Spanex wrote:I actually have a similar problem. I don't think my brother (he is older) understands that my feelings get deeply hurt when he calls me out when he thinks I did something wrong. I was told he doesn't mean it that way, but the tone of voice he uses just...ugh. It just burns, you know? At some point it made me wish I was a single child.

Once, rather than asking me about it first, he simply accused me unjustly of leaving wet washcloths in the bathroom. So, how did he punish me? He dropped them right on my chair. That's right. And when I asked about who did it, he began to cuss me out.

And though that's not even one of the worst things he did to make me feel like crap, it was the last straw. I didn't know what to do, so I talked with my mother about it. And even though I should have spoken to him, it was her who began the confrontation.

I'm not a person who can fight back. Especially against abusive family members. When he does these things and backtalks, I just shut down. Defeated.

Sometimes I think he likes to pick on me just for the reason I'm so easy to pick on...
It's the same here. All of it. Where "parenting" is concerned my brother seems to think he has the right but not the responsibility; ie, he can tell me off for ANYTHING he wants however minor (read: one swear word) but he doesn't have to; It's like he does it for a lesiure activity. And I back down because I'm not good at arguing. At all. I think Spiral can testify :P

It's funny though; he used to go on about how intelligent I am and how I'm going to do so well in my GCSEs and how I'm cleverer (is that a word?) than him, and it's like he doesn't believe that anymore n.n
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MLII wrote:Thanks for the adivce. o3o I didn't know you had it the same tbh.
Well I don't really, your brother is notably more aggressive.
MLII wrote:It's funny though; he used to go on about how intelligent I am and how I'm going to do so well in my GCSEs and how I'm cleverer (is that a word?) than him, and it's like he doesn't believe that anymore n.n
When did he change/how old is he? That could probably/maybe relate to things.
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About 2 or 3 weeks ago, I think. My mom says it's GCSE stress.

He does have nice moment in between, it's not constant or anything, but it's still annoying.
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MLII wrote:About 2 or 3 weeks ago, I think. My mom says it's GCSE stress.

He does have nice moment in between, it's not constant or anything, but it's still annoying.
I really don't think stress is a good enough reason to act like an asshole. It benefits no one.
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