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[Haruka]

The VAT also varies in here depending of specific products and services, but in terms of electronics it is 23%, and used also to be 22 a while ago. Of course, people stop buying in here and order from UK, where VAT is 17% for the british.

If this helps, the plugs in here are like this:

[Master]

I'm sure the British VAT rose to 20% recently...

[Haruka]

Seriously? I didn't know that. I also haven't been buying in UK since a good while.

[stan423321]

This is the workaround plug. Show me your socket please. Does it have a sticking out bolt, weird steel connectors on top and bottom, or none of that?

On the point of VAT: the situation in Poland is really ridiculous, but that's topic for another day.

What's really interesting: the Wii U software prices. This is more complicated than I can handle. In UK, general pricing is 50Ł (sorry guys, no pound key there), which is PS360 level, and this is for instance price of RL and ZombiU, but Nintendo titles are priced 45Ł - half the way. But in Germany, the price for Nintendo titles is 70€ (while 60€ is PS360 standard), yet RL is priced 50€! What in the world? I'm using Amazon prices by the way.

EDIT: I'm pretty sure "high power" kitchen appliances, not including the 380V ones with obviously different sockets, can't use the workaround plug, but I have no idea why; I may be wrong about it.

[Haruka]

That's Nintendo for you. I still see today games like Super Mario Galaxy at 50€ and Mario Kart DS at 40€.

Here are the sockets from here:

[stan423321]

German-like ones. I pity you. They're horrible, especially when combined with deep socketing system.

The fact that Nintendo games do not get lower prices is directly connected to the point one: people still buy them at those prices.

EDIT: Holy !@#$%^&*. Suppose ZombiU gets 18+ PEGI rating. Then it will probably get equivalent USK rating. Then Wii U ZombiU bundle will be hard to get in Germany, and then want for other bundles gets different. This gets really complicated...

[Haruka]

The fact that Nintendo games do not get lower prices is directly connected to the point one: people still buy them at those prices.

You're right, and I'm sure it is people that don't feel their pockets tight. I know about many many portuguese players that stopped buying games here since years and buy only in UK since it is by far more rewarding: you get more games for less money. I've been doing the same thing for almost 3 years when I have the chance to do so. If everybody was doing this I'm sure Nintendo, Sony, etcs would start thinking twice. People are not that stupid anymore to fall in the traps of the gaming sales: we all know the games that are on sales for 10€ or less it is because it is a poo game that nobody wants. The day this happens to games like Mario it will rain frogs.

German-like ones. I pity you. They're horrible, especially when combined with deep socketing system.

Can you explain me why?

[stan423321]

This is slightly different in Poland, because if the game for Nintendo platform is really good and appealing it may get unavailable. That's because almost every male teen in Polish towns and cities is or was a PC gamer, and so, well, even if they migrate to other platforms they will probably not go for Nintendo. I even heard comments Wii is kind of equivalent of hardcore platform in Poland, because it's for specific type of gamers, not for folk, as folk plays FPSes, LoL, Diablo etc.

On sockets: well, I've been using deep German-style sockets in Norway, and they were horrible - it was hard to push plugs in, but they jumped out every time except you wanted them to. In Lithuania, I've bought a German-styled power cord, and it is only slightly better - however we slept in an old hotel with Soviet "no grounding" sockets, so it didn't bother me too much. For whatever reason I can't remember what kind of sockets were there in Latvia...

EDIT: Too -> To

[Haruka]

Wierd, I never had the issues you just told about the sockets/plugs we have.

[stan423321]

Maybe because you're not used to French plugs. Well, Americans would probably hate all of them as they're large.

Meanwhile, in French Amazon: RL for 50€, ZombiU and N titles for 60€ with exception of Pikmin 3, pre-announced for 70€. In Poland, Wii U is obviously released with no games so far, excluding pack-ins - that said, it's in two online shops so far, and situation may change in future.

I know I will pre-order Wii U, but I'm not sure where should I do this to save the most cash and get games immediately. And now, back to RL - do you think the game will do good? I.e. how many Wii Us sold for RL copy do you expect?

EDIT:

I know about many many portuguese players that stopped buying games here since years and buy only in UK since it is by far more rewarding: you get more games for less money. (...) If everybody was doing this I'm sure Nintendo, Sony, etcs would start thinking twice.

Which Nintendo are you talking about? Nintendo of Europe, located in Ireland, which is totally content with that? Nintendo of Japan, which couldn't care less? Actually this would be far better for them. There is no Nintendo of Poland for instance, we're handled by an Austrian company which is horrible in terms of Polish marketing etc. - but given the local circumstances mentioned above, it's not like they could improve N's stats there much. The situation in Portugal is obviously far different, but if it's true Nintendo of freaking America has advertising plans designed in Kyoto, then again the situation gets really complex.

[Adsolution]

this is normally the logic of the European shops:

Example: 500$ = 500€

Now if they keep following their logic for the Wii U, here it goes:

Wow, really? That sucks, I must say. I didn't think they would actually not bother to adapt the prices. They better not do the same for pounds, do they?

[stan423321]

As I said above, it's not like they don't bother at all. And yes, UK prices are different, but they're rather around EU prices usually.

EDIT: As in value.

[Haruka]

Nintendo of Europe is what I'm talking about, at least for Portugal's, France's and other countries cases where the Nintendo games prices don't change a cent for 6 years.

[saerleiya]

That prices are just too idiot. 500$=500€...lol. I remembered that was the same for The Witcher 2 when I saw pre-release video about it.
Yes, considering the pruchasing power of each country, prices are quite balanced. But in many situations console producers use the system to make money :/...
Some games need 2 years after their release to see their price decrease. With the number of games being released each month nowadays (and many are not still pretty good in order to be sold 60€) that's a shame

[stan423321]

But in many situations console producers use the system to make money :/...

Erm, 360 model is good for you only if you don't play premium multiplayer and buy only a few games for your system. Otherwise profit on system is good for you. That is, unless you compare the thing with self-made PC, but this is another story.

Also, turns out NoE has changed into German+UK operated company. This quite explains the Wii U price mess. But still this means they probably do not care much about their Portuguese branch.

[sergiomonty]

Yo! yo! holy fried chicken and watermelons! new interview!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emAY26zpMcs

[saerleiya]

Another interview...and another same one...(or maybe u found the little word that changes everything but I didn't XD).

[Adsolution]

There's absolutely nothing new in this interview. The only thing I remotely care about is that spiffy shirt he's wearing. I want that shirt.

[Shrooblord]

Maybe because you're not used to French plugs. Well, Americans would probably hate all of them as they're large.

That's what she said.

In the Netherlands, VAT prices are around 19% for most things, but it depends on the product. Some food items have only 11% and some more exotic products have more.

[Adsolution]

Maybe because you're not used to French plugs. Well, Americans would probably hate all of them as they're large.

That's what she said.

Hah!

Luckily in British Columbia we always have American, UK and Euro outlets in public places like Libraries, airports, harbours and recreation centres. This place is so full of European and Asian immigrants that they make up at least 2/3 of the population.