Rayman Legends

[Haruka]

Just watched it, and I believe I really didn't miss anything at all.

Sony is probably saving the console design for E3.

[stan423321]

I posted a silly recap of the conference I found in viewtopic.php?p=744933#p744933 Haruka. The conference wasn't that impressive and they failed to show anything about the console itself, only social features and games that will be released on it.

With all due regards, the social features are still console features, and games are the most important console features. Moreover, they said a bit about hardware, and it makes sense with its separate chip handling downloads, relatively normal CPU and GPU, alright amount of RAM and so on. What will PS4 look like is really an enthusiast's smallest problem.

EDIT: Well, probably. I acknowledge that if they wanted to, they could make it a problem.

[sergiomonty]

Woah, I've checked a lot of opinions about PS4 and... my faith in humanity is... being restored? people are not swallowing graphics anymore? they actually want... gameplay innovation?! I'm stunned.

[Slogbait]

I posted a silly recap of the conference I found in viewtopic.php?p=744933#p744933 Haruka. The conference wasn't that impressive and they failed to show anything about the console itself, only social features and games that will be released on it.

With all due regards, the social features are still console features, and games are the most important console features. Moreover, they said a bit about hardware, and it makes sense with its separate chip handling downloads, relatively normal CPU and GPU, alright amount of RAM and so on. What will PS4 look like is really an enthusiast's smallest problem.

EDIT: Well, probably. I acknowledge that if they wanted to, they could make it a problem.

The only problem I have with them not showing the console is entirely just me wanting to know what it looks like. It's not really a big deal, and you're right the games and social features are the important console features. I, however, was not interested in anything Sony had to show and it seems like I'm not alone. On the upside, the addition of things like recording and streaming will make things much better for LPers and people who want to record walkthroughs.

Woah, I've checked a lot of opinions about PS4 and... my faith in humanity is... being restored? people are not swallowing graphics anymore? they actually want... gameplay innovation?! I'm stunned.

The main reasons graphics were such a huge deal were because, especially when the last generation of consoles were released, we were never able to reach such a high level of detail in games before. People binged on that for awhile, and now they've begun to get bored at the lack of variety, playing nothing but the same handful of games that are essentially all the same game copy pasted with a poor story and slightly different visuals.

[The Edditaur]

The main reasons graphics were such a huge deal were because, especially when the last generation of consoles were released, we were never able to reach such a high level of detail in games before. People binged on that for awhile, and now they've begun to get bored at the lack of variety, playing nothing but the same handful of games that are essentially all the same game copy pasted with a poor story and slightly different visuals.

That Klack game looked pretty different, had a nice little style to it, and isn't another bloody shooter, and people complained that it looked terrible. The same thing happened with the Witness only the complaints were aimed at the fact the game looked like a painting. To be honest though, both of those had the nicest art styles out of the games they had on show there, in my opinion.
Can't please anyone, eh?

[stan423321]

I know, right? Maybe they didn't look too next-genish, especiallyThe Witness, but to be honest I didn't find Watch_Dogs visually appealing OR technically impressive from visual viewpoint at all... and yet some people say that the only thing that interests them in this game is graphics. What the !@#$%^&* hell.

[Adsolution]

I think Watch Dogs looks quite graphically impressive for the hardware it's being run on, but the main selling point is clearly the unique gameplay style.

I must say, even though it's the end of the current generation's lifespan, there were/are some great games being released this past year. I think this generation has really learned how to optimise like mad; from 2006 until now, there's been such a massive graphical improvement that it's almost unbelievable, purely through software optimisation.

[sergiomonty]

I'm interested in watch dogs for the gameplay... not the graphics. Wii U will have the game too, so...

The main reasons graphics were such a huge deal were because, especially when the last generation of consoles were released, we were never able to reach such a high level of detail in games before. People binged on that for awhile, and now they've begun to get bored at the lack of variety, playing nothing but the same handful of games that are essentially all the same game copy pasted with a poor story and slightly different visuals.

That Klack game looked pretty different, had a nice little style to it, and isn't another bloody shooter, and people complained that it looked terrible. The same thing happened with the Witness only the complaints were aimed at the fact the game looked like a painting. To be honest though, both of those had the nicest art styles out of the games they had on show there, in my opinion.
Can't please anyone, eh?

What I liked about the game was the facial expressions. The textures looked pretty meh for a next gen game. In that aspect, even freaking Nintendo Land looked better.

[saerleiya]

from 2006 until now, there's been such a massive graphical improvement that it's almost unbelievable, purely through software optimisation.

Quoting Crysis and CryEngine is enough, I guess, to say how it has been improving during the last decade. The gap between the games on PS2 and those on PS3 is incredibly high now .

[Haruka]

I agree. Its impressive how in the last decade the graphics improved so quickly, and becoming even more detailed and fotorealistic.

[Shrooblord]

And let's not talk about the Xbox 360's red ring of death.

If you take good care of your console, that won't happen.

If we compare a PS2 with a PS3, you can see a drastic evolution that completely blowed our minds.

I remember when the PS3 came out with a new way to put HD on a disc: the BluRay. Now, most DVD players are triumpantly pushed aside by the BluRay players that give you the excellent quality a DVD couldn't give you. It's been a fun development to watch: bringing out a console that is, of course, in the first place made to play games on, which brought innovation in a completely different field of industry: the movies.

You know what I think about the social network already.

Social networks have completely taken over the lives of many, many people on this planet. I choose to ignore most occurences of this sad fact, but it's a sad fact to behold nonetheless.

On the upside, the addition of things like recording and streaming will make things much better for LPers and people who want to record walkthroughs.

I agree fully; both these parties as well as people who want to make fan videos (a bit like what plotlineplus did with Rayman 2) can now more easily do this, without having to go all-out and spend another $100 on a good video capturing device.

I agree. Its impressive how in the last decade the graphics improved so quickly, and becoming even more detailed and fotorealistic.

And it goes further than the gaming industry. At Christmas, I was over in England to see my family and we went to the cinemas to watch Life of Pi in 3D. I can tell you, oh boy, that's the best 3D I have ever seen. Before that, Avatar was my favourite in that field, but this movie just made it look like I was looking out a window. At some points, I caught myself realising that I was sitting in the theatre and was in fact not looking out a window.
Games look so amazing nowadays and I really love that about them. I saw the Crysis 3 trailer on the TV just the other day and - while I normally skip the adverts because I hate them - I found I enjoyed watching it because of the sheer amount of eyecandy on display (and of course his 'manly walk' at the end is just hilarious).



So... Legends.

[sergiomonty]

And let's not talk about the Xbox 360's red ring of death.

If you take good care of your console, that won't happen.

Eh... no, it was a problem in the hardware of the first consoles. Not taking care of the console doesn't sound as a proper excuse, as thousands of consoles around the world suffered this malfunction.

[Shrooblord]

And let's not talk about the Xbox 360's red ring of death.

If you take good care of your console, that won't happen.

Eh... no, it was a problem in the hardware of the first consoles. Not taking care of the console doesn't sound as a proper excuse, as thousands of consoles around the world suffered this malfunction.

Eh, yes. My console is probably one of the oldest around and I've never, ever suffered from the Red Ring of Death. I take very good care of my equipment.

But alright - maybe mine is a fighter, maybe mine is one of the exceptions.


(there are other old-age issues, but that's another matter)

[Minor-T5]

The Red Ring of Death sounds like something from a horror story.

[Haruka]

That was one of the reasons that lead me to avoid buying a 360. I heard about Microsoft costumers that were buying their 3rd Xbox 360 console, since the previous two died of the same issue. But it also makes me think: how the hell people install a console at home? If they do this in closed places or at the very side of a wall, it doesn't amaze me. At least my consoles have enough air circulation since they aren't closed anywhere.

[sergiomonty]

But alright - maybe mine is a fighter, maybe mine is one of the exceptions.

That appears to be the case. A friend of mine took care of his Xbox 360, but randomly it just stopped working. It was a hardware malfunction that a lot of the initial systems had. A lot, but not all of them. You seem to have one of those lucky survivors.

[Rulez]

The Red Ring of Death sounds like something from a horror story.

Are you implying it isn't?

[Shrooblord]

I guess they fried their consoles, yes. I remember Microsoft sending me a new power unit on their own volition at some point, solely because they said that the old one would "cause issues". I guess that explains some of the console deaths.
The one thing that really pisses me off about Microsoft (in their console management, that is) is their poor way of handling customers. There are no clear answers to the questions you actually have, and most of them will result in "oh I'm sorry, how about try buying another", whatever it is you're asking about.

@Rulez:
I think he's implying that he doesn't know what it is. If that's the case, Minor, the RRoD is similar to the computer's Blue Screen of Death in that it means something has gone horribly wrong with your Xbox360. Contrastingly, in most cases, your console will never wake up from this condition, whereas the computer just needs a reboot (and maybe a virus scan).

[Minor-T5]

No, I know what the Red Ring of Death is, I just think it sounds like something from a horror story.

[Rulez]

And I was jokingly saying a sarcastic "are you implying it isn't?", as I believe a situation like the Red Ring of Death happening to your Xbox 360 is kinda like a horror story. I should have been more clear.