Rayman Legends

[Adsolution]

Well, anything's more important than school if you don't care about school.

I don't care about school, but I know that I need to finish it if I want to get into the Art Institute. Therefore, unfortunately school takes priority.

Yes. I've had to learn the hard way that school should always take priority over all things if you want to make something of yourself in the real world.

No, this is completely false. School isn't required for squat if you have passion. The reason I want to go to the Art Institute is so I'll have access to million-dollar equipment, things you would never have access to unless you're well into the industry. Heheh, I'm not going there for a degree or the learning experience. Well, maybe 10 percent for the learning experience, and 25 percent for meeting new people. Fuck school, it's immoral and an unjust means of success unless it's truly something you enjoy. Abuse it to you advantage if you must.

[Rayfist]

Funny enough, I know someone from the Art Institute who told me it sucks, that was just her though. The presentation I saw for it looked amusing.

[Earth Gwee]

Well, anything's more important than school if you don't care about school.

I don't care about school, but I know that I need to finish it if I want to get into the Art Institute. Therefore, unfortunately school takes priority.

Yes. I've had to learn the hard way that school should always take priority over all things if you want to make something of yourself in the real world.

No, this is completely false. School isn't required for squat if you have passion. The reason I want to go to the Art Institute is so I'll have access to million-dollar equipment, things you would never have access to unless you're well into the industry. Heheh, I'm not going there for a degree or the learning experience. Well, maybe 10 percent for the learning experience, and 25 percent for meeting new people. Fuck school, it's immoral and an unjust means of success unless it's truly something you enjoy. Abuse it to you advantage if you must.

Well, of course, if you don't have passion for something, then you're stuck. I myself would love to go to an art institute where I can use my passion to its full extent. But if you're going to be living on your own, it's best to have a well-rounded education. That's just as important as following your passions.

[sergiomonty]

Aaah... education and artists, such a controversial topic. In my opinion, education depends of the actual...you know, talent of the artist. Sometimes is something that you grow up with, maybe because of the experiences of your early life. But in order to be a GREAT artist... well, that depends on how the artist is gonna innovate the perspective of the world.

It's difficult, and it's definitely not a matter of something that a professor in a classroom would teach you. Education doesn't teach you how to be successful as an artist, it doesn't even teach you how to be an artist, it just gives you some tools that, if you didn't had already, could guide you to success if you know how to use them.

I've heard about great artists that didn't complete their studies and now are easily recognized. Let's take an example from the internet.... Egoraptor didn't finish his highschool studies, but he's recognized as one of the most influential flash animators of the internet. Why? because he's got "something" that made him an easily recognizable artist... His artstyle, his voices, his quirky presentation. It's just something that people do love.


HOWEVER.

That doesn't mean that education isn't necessary at all. Our chances of being as lucky as that bastard are very low. One gets the graduation papers and stuff because they're requirements to highly increase the chances to get an actual job. And job means... well, money.


The priority taken on studies can vary. People usually don't understand this, and maybe this is why this topic is so complicated.

[Adsolution]

But if you're going to be living on your own, it's best to have a well-rounded education. That's just as important as following your passions.

There's nothing that really backs this claim other than your view on what living on your own is. You're hardly living on your own if you're run by the injustice and immorality of the people who require of you a pointless education that does not serve you or anyone else, in my opinion. It's hardly even what I'd consider living.

The priority taken on studies can vary. People usually don't understand this, and maybe this is why this topic is so complicated.

It really isn't complicated at all though, it's actually very simple. We just make it much more complicated than it needs to be when we start placing a biased importance towards things that we would consider society's norm, such as making money via a high-paying job, because the thought of isolation is ever so frightful. If someone grew up in a library full of knowledge, a warehouse full of material and a lab full of chemicals without having ever been taught a thing about the world works and only have their childish dreams and ambitions to live off of, they would likely have made it to Mars and beyond by now.

[OCG]

But if you're going to be living on your own, it's best to have a well-rounded education. That's just as important as following your passions.

There's nothing that really backs this claim other than your view on what living on your own is. You're hardly living on your own if you're run by the injustice and immorality of the people who require of you a pointless education that does not serve you or anyone else, in my opinion. It's hardly even what I'd consider living.

The priority taken on studies can vary. People usually don't understand this, and maybe this is why this topic is so complicated.

It really isn't complicated at all though, it's actually very simple. We just make it much more complicated than it needs to be when we start placing a biased importance towards things that we would consider society's norm, such as making money via a high-paying job, because the thought of isolation is ever so frightful. If someone grew up in a library full of knowledge, a warehouse full of material and a lab full of chemicals without having ever been taught a thing about the world works and only have their childish dreams and ambitions to live off of, they would likely have made it to Mars and beyond by now.

I agree 100%

[Keane]

It really isn't complicated at all though, it's actually very simple. We just make it much more complicated than it needs to be when we start placing a biased importance towards things that we would consider society's norm, such as making money via a high-paying job, because the thought of isolation is ever so frightful. If someone grew up in a library full of knowledge, a warehouse full of material and a lab full of chemicals without having ever been taught a thing about the world works and only have their childish dreams and ambitions to live off of, they would likely have made it to Mars and beyond by now.

Well if this isn't just the damn truth. +1

[Haruka]

I wanted to have watched the E3 2012 of Nintendo this last year but it was impossible since I had school and it was an extra class of preparation for the exams that would come in very few days so I obviously missed it, with some shame. However, from what I got told, I didn't miss a lot.

At least I'll hopefully be able to watch both Ubisoft and Nintendo's press conferences of this year.

[OCG]

I wanted to have watched the E3 2012 of Nintendo this last year but it was impossible since I had school and it was an extra class of preparation for the exams that would come in very few days so I obviously missed it, with some shame. However, from what I got told, I didn't miss a lot.

At least I'll hopefully be able to watch both Ubisoft and Nintendo's press conferences of this year.

I missed Nintendo conference too, but I watched sony's and ubisoft's
This year I am not missing any (hopefully)

[sergiomonty]

It really isn't complicated at all though, it's actually very simple. We just make it much more complicated than it needs to be when we start placing a biased importance towards things that we would consider society's norm, such as making money via a high-paying job, because the thought of isolation is ever so frightful. If someone grew up in a library full of knowledge, a warehouse full of material and a lab full of chemicals without having ever been taught a thing about the world works and only have their childish dreams and ambitions to live off of, they would likely have made it to Mars and beyond by now.

It's not complicated, but society makes it seem complicated.

Hm, you know? I totally agree with you. Yeah! Such a great post deserves some Tings. here, take em'

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Is anybody here interested on buying an Xbox One, by the way? everybody seems hyped for Ubisoft, Konami, Sony and Nintendo's E3 but nobody seems to care about Microsoft anymore. People complain because it has no games or even better graphics. It will have games, eventually... they'll be shown at e3. For me, the problem is that it doesn't have the proper features....
No used games? ... forced online at least one hour per day? no retrocompatibility?... Those are things to worry about, and people complain about the TV features.

Rayman Legends comes out in a few months, and it's sad to know that a next-gen console can't play it.

[Robotic Teensie]

If someone grew up in a library full of knowledge, a warehouse full of material and a lab full of chemicals without having ever been taught a thing about the world works and only have their childish dreams and ambitions to live off of, they would likely have made it to Mars and beyond by now.

I doubt it. Maybe they would create a couple of fun inventions, but there's no way they'd be able to launch space missions on their own, without any education whatsoever.

Anyway... I (well, "we" - the family) own an Xbox 360. We use it to play Halo... that's all we do with it really. I'm not that excited about the new console.

Online one hour per day? I thought it was "connect once every 24 hours"... either way it's bad.

What annoys me is that they spent so much time on those additional features... that are probably not going to work outside the US. Microsoft is just too US-oriented. :/ Half the apps on the 360 don't work here either - just in the US. Besides, I don't give a damn about TV features. It's a shame they lost their focus on games. Maybe they can redeem themselves at E3...

No backward compatibility is unfortunate indeed... really awful. As is the name... Xbox 1?! Wtf... the thing is ugly too .

We don't have that much Xbox games, but the ones we got were all new. I've never bought used games before... so the no used games thing doesn't really affect me... but I think they're going to lose a lot of customers because of it.

Kinect is just a gimmick... I don't care much for motion-based gameplay. And all the Kinect games suck. Just give me a controller. The updated controller is nice btw .

The good news is that the Xbox One is a lot more like a PC than previous consoles. So if Ubisoft is going to do a PC version of Legends sometime, it would be relatively easy for them to port that to the new Xbox.

[Adsolution]

I doubt it. Maybe they would create a couple of fun inventions, but there's no way they'd be able to launch space missions on their own, without any education whatsoever.

It's an analogy.

I also don't think you understood or even fully read my post either, as I was referring to the hypothetical mindset of someone growing up with no social education and no human distraction whatsoever. Besides, even if you understood what I meant and you decided to take an analogy so literally, there is, again, absolutely nothing to back up your claim other than your own talking ass. You can doubt the plausibility of something, but you can't prove that it isn't possible. I for one, think that it's very possible. What better environment is there for clear thought to give birth to genius?

#Is anybody here interested on buying an Xbox One, by the way? everybody seems hyped for Ubisoft, Konami, Sony and Nintendo's E3 but nobody seems to care about Microsoft anymore. People complain because it has no games or even better graphics. It will have games, eventually... they'll be shown at e3. For me, the problem is that it doesn't have the proper features....
No used games? ... forced online at least one hour per day? no retrocompatibility?... Those are things to worry about, and people complain about the TV features.

Rayman Legends comes out in a few months, and it's sad to know that a next-gen console can't play it.

I didn't know people were hyped for Sony's presentation. What do they have to show really? At the very least the XOne is going to attract a crowd to enjoy its humourously bad reputation, but the PS4 is just sort of in the middle. It's not bad enough to be severely mocked, but there's nothing interesting about it to watch.

This E3 looks to be quite boring and uneventful. At least Ubisoft dominated the scene last year. Now, I doubt they even have much to show off aside from AC IV, Watchdogs and perhaps Legends, all things we've already seen last year (aside from AC IV).

Kinect is just a gimmick...

For fuck's sake, why are people always so insistent on calling it a gimmick? If the software is programmed well, Kinect works like a marvellous charm. Even though it barely had any good uses on the X360, the voice control is incredibly responsive and I can use it to navigate the dashboard simply by flicking my fingers around, which is way faster than with a controller. That's the kind of thing I think Kinect should be used for, because that's what it's so damn good at. If a game wants to use it, then the game should refrain from making you look like a retard and instead have a much more minor focus. Kinect works really, really well, there's just hardly anything out that uses it properly. Kinect is far from a gimmick, I'd rather like to call it a very innovative piece of technology that will likely over time integrate into other machines.

If you think Kinect itself is a gimmick, then why is it that it's such a good idea that works so well?

[Master]

I have to agree with Ad regarding the Kinect thing, it may not be the best for gaming purposes, but given that Microsoft actually released a free SDK for the device, you can tell it has uses elsewhere, and I genuinely hope the device succeeds for it.

[GNineify]

Oh boy, finally someone said it about Kinect! It is indeed responsive and casual gamers won't complain. It's probably one of the best motion control machines that exist. Combine it with Oculus Rift and some actually interesting games, which unfortunately just don't exist yet because nobody bothers to do any, for some real fun. I wouldn't care if I looked like a retard.

[Robotic Teensie]

I doubt it. Maybe they would create a couple of fun inventions, but there's no way they'd be able to launch space missions on their own, without any education whatsoever.

It's an analogy.

I also don't think you understood or even fully read my post either, as I was referring to the hypothetical mindset of someone growing up with no social education and no human distraction whatsoever. Besides, even if you understood what I meant and you decided to take an analogy so literally, there is, again, absolutely nothing to back up your claim other than your own talking ass. You can doubt the plausibility of something, but you can't prove that it isn't possible. I for one, think that it's very possible. What better environment is there for clear thought to give birth to genius?

Well, okay. I wasn't sure how serious you were about your analogy... good to see you're not that misguided. I couldn't really tell after ridiculous statements like this:

Fuck school, it's immoral and an unjust means of success

You sound like an anarchist - "the system is evil!". Please explain why the hell school is "immoral" and "unjust"? I understand you're frustrated. You want to become an artist and you think you don't need so much education. I get that. Being an artist isn't really something you can learn at school. I too dislike having to study things like ancient Greek that I know I will not need later on. But... you're overreacting.

Kinect is just a gimmick...

For fuck's sake, why are people always so insistent on calling it a gimmick?

I wasn't talking about alternative uses of Kinect. I'm sure that's all great. I was talking about its use for Xbox games. Why is it a gimmick in Xbox games? You said it yourself.

it barely had any good uses on the X360

making you look like a retard

hardly anything out that uses it properly

Who knows, maybe it'll become better? I don't know. We'll have to see...

[Rayfist]

Apparently it's been rumored Rare may make an appearance. If they do, they really should present a new Conker or Banjo, enough of this Kinect sports. And I REALLY hope Microsoft doesn't pull another USHER on us again this year... seriously.

[OCG]

Apparently it's been rumored Rare may make an appearance. If they do, they really should present a new Conker or Banjo, enough of this Kinect sports. And I REALLY hope Microsoft doesn't pull another USHER on us again this year... seriously.

New Banjo and Conker could basicly be only reason why to even get Xbox ONE. In my opinion, console is not that good (no disrespect to anyone who likes the console).

[Rayfist]

The first impression is REALLY bad so far by many, of course we can't fully judge, but the first impression just... awful.

[Adsolution]

Well, okay. I wasn't sure how serious you were about your analogy... good to see you're not that misguided. I couldn't really tell after ridiculous statements like this:

Fuck school, it's immoral and an unjust means of success

You sound like an anarchist - "the system is evil!". Please explain why the hell school is "immoral" and "unjust"? I understand you're frustrated. You want to become an artist and you think you don't need so much education. I get that. Being an artist isn't really something you can learn at school. I too dislike having to study things like ancient Greek that I know I will not need later on. But... you're overreacting.

I believe that it's almost factually immoral for children to have to learn this way - and are required by law to waste at least ten years of their precious life to meet society's expectations of being a citizen. There's no outside option for those who have a passion or know what they want to do. It's not learning that I find to be 'evil,' as you put it, it's the method in which it's enforced. I think it's also a very old-fashioned belief that children learn at the same rate. They try to group kids together and teach them the same things at the same pace.

You know, I could go on and on about the flaws of modern schooling in particular, but there are too many negative things about it worth wasting my time writing about. Why even try to defend it? It's a system designed to benefit the economy by producing people that can get down and work in the easiest, cheapest way possible, by throwing them all in a classroom and reading a book to them - disobedience of participating in the schooling process is considered truancy, and is a criminal offense; seriously? Sure, the odd charismatic teacher makes the experience seem a little more enjoyable, but that's virtually the same thing as trying to make moving through airport customs a 'fun' activity. If you enjoy school and it moves right at your own pace and you feel incredibly productive and at home there, then great, it was built for you, but most people do not enjoy school and would rather be doing something else that they enjoy. If not, then why not instead utilise system that leans toward and benefits the individual, focusing on their interests and teaching it to them in a fashion that they can understand and having them later bring it to life, so motivated that it will contribute to the advancement of our civilisation?

If that isn't their thing and they would rather enjoy life around the edges, then leave them be; there are plenty of people who would be perfectly content living on a lakeside house, fishing for their family and strumming a tune about the wonders of life.

Unfortunately, almost all companies require of you a graduation certificate at the very least - and usually a post-secondary degree of some kind - to work for them. Why? Is that not immoral and unjust? Logic tells me that it is.

[GNineify]

If it turns out to be Banjo, there would still be the question has Rare learned from the mistake that was Nuts & Bolts. If it's good, then there's definitely something for the Xbone.