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[OCG]

True. I am sure some other franchise gives them more money than Rayman. But still Rayman is my fav.
I guess I forgot about Assassin's Creed for second

[Master]

And Far Cry, Splinter Cell and plenty of other popular franchises.

[Dark Lum Lord]

Aye, and I've been very guilty of this sort of thing in my past years as well. If it's a real problem however (I perceive some of your extremely negative and self-deprecating posts to be, and not just because they may affect you, but they may affect others as well), I feel that they should be pointed out on each and every occurrence so that the user becomes very aware of the problem and is able to control it.

Understandable.

The logic is perfectly valid though, as the speaker is straight-up indicating their intention by stating that they aren't an asshole, a motive that oftentimes requires definition due to its ease of misperception. There is no lack of clarity if someone were to shoot someone else in the foot however, that's about as literal as you can get. That is why the analogy you made for disproving my logic does not work. Someone will state that they aren't trying to be an asshole if they are afraid the reader may interpret the speaker as being one given their tone, when the speaker can't find a 'nicer' way of wording something. If you don't believe this to be good reasoning, then it's not because it's illogical, it's because you aren't a fan of blunt logic.

Fair enough. I'm surprised that I didn't realize that myself, but at the time it was night and plus my emotions where "out of whack", I suppose. My emotions had clouded my ability to think clearly.

Opinions should be logical in order for them to properly assume the role of a grounded opinion, and there's no such thing as over-the-top logic. Logic is entirely black and white.

Hmm, good point.

Untrue, because:

The whole "calm down" point is a bit of a cliche - I've heard it before and it's not the strongest of arguments. Telling someone to calm down won't magically cause it to happen nor is the person who's apparently hystericaly truly hysterical. The might be, but they might not. Sure, they might appear to have a certain emotion in a post to you, but that doesn't mean it's true. I viewed you as being a bit cold and harsh, but then you claimed that you weren't intentionally trying to which would be an example.

"Calm down" in this context is telling you to be calm and collected. If you were entirely calm and collected, you wouldn't have made that angsty post, unless you have a very unfunny sense of humour in combination with wanting to get some irritating, bottled-up and illogical bullshit off your chest. If that were the case though, it would be great for you to let us know that that's what you're doing. Just because it's a commonly used phrase doesn't mean that it holsters a lower level of validity. It's a versatile phrase; would you have perceived it differently if I'd used a radically different set of words to convey the exact same thing? If so, then according to logic, that's not my problem.

Since it seems that the troubled accusation against me for uttering faulty logic was in itself not entirely based on logic, then there's a good chance that it's partially because you haven't grown enough to make the most of the rational sectors of your mind. That also means that there's a good chance your social anxiety isn't an irrational fear, and that you'll likely grow out of it in a few years as a clearer sense of deductive reasoning develops. As far as your ability goes, you're even great at that now, so I have the utmost faith in you becoming one of the smartest people I know.

I have to admit that at the time I wasn't really calm - I felt a bit offended and you claiming that you weren't attempting to be an asshole only confused me a bit more and so thus a wall of text about something that has nothing to do with the point of your argument commenced. Basically, I was more or less ranting and accussing you of having false logic because I was not in the greatest of moods and the logic of what you typed didn't appear to be very logical to me at the time. After re-reading the conversation and then reading this reply I've realized that yes, it truly does work therefore it is logical. Ironically my own logic had been flawed a bit.

The whole argument of mine stemmed from my bad mood and hatred of the words "calm" and "down" used together. I've heard that one far too many times from my family - my sister's variation is especially annoying and would be "Stop acting like that", whatever the fuck "that" is supposed to mean - and it's come to the point that I want to explode every single time I am reminded of those two words in conjunction.

As for my social anxiety, I'm not too sure about the villainy behind that mess, but I'm convinced that it's a combination of an irrational fear and what you said about me not making the most out of my rational sectors of my mind. "It's complicated", is basically my point. And I'm flattered by the words in your last sentence, almost too much so, but I'm sure that even if my intelligence were to grow that you'd know some smarter people. I may have delicately phrased sentences, but I don't think I have what it takes to become that intelligent at all.

By that logic if I said that I'm not trying to be an asshole, I would be an asshole anyway? Its just to point out that the person saying this doesn't want to be seen as one and have no intentions in being one.

I think you should calm down a bit with posts like that though, not only does it affect yourself for posting self-loathing posts, but it also affects the mood of others that read it. I also think you should think a bit more optimistically, no need to be extremely pessimist like you're doing, life have its good sides too but you seem to not see them. I bet you that not everyone where you live hates you, that's kind of impossible unless you killed people or did something of the kind. I already went through a self-loathing stage and am a big pessimistic person, but thinking optimistically sometime helps more than you would think.

Whenever I'm happy there's always something that occurs later which brings down my mood again.

Don't jump to conclusions like that about someone until you actually have spoke to them. If I did that, I would consider more than half the people here to be complete assholes that don't give a fuck because of the way they act which is untrue.

True, most of the individuals one here can appear to be the largest assholes to exist unless you realize that we're joking.

Don't think that people always think " oh he so ugly, he should die, fucking idiot" etc, because people honestly don't. Having a low self-esteem can be bad but have you ever tried to push yourself forward in what you would like to do in your day? And I'm pretty sure not everyone ignore you.

Does everyone always ignore me? Of course not, but for a large chunk of my time I am alone and it remains that way unless I take action to change it. Even then though, many times I remain unnoticed. But today I had been especially social and it turned out postitive for once, which proves that I have no reason to always be a pessimistic, sardonic downer.

It sounds like you're hating yourself a lot. Being physically weak is nothing wrong at all, being mentally weak isn't either, everyone have weaknesses. Who said you were ugly? You can only be ugly from the inside, the outside of someone isn't that important to be honest, someone could look beautiful but would be a complete jerk and vice-versa. You can learn how to have better social skills by trying to talk to people, might be hard to think about but its easier than you think. Being aloof and awkward isn't a wrong thing. Being "weird" isn't wrong, because you're not the sheep following the shepherd that most people follow and decided to follow a different path in life.

But socializing with others is difficult because it's hard for me to think of what to say and even if I do manage to go past that obstacle, most people appear to ignore me for absolutely no reason. I assume it has to do with me being "weird", and one negative of that would be the fact that many people I don't even know act like I'm invisible which is quite close-minded. But I agree, there's nothing wrong with that and most of my friends are also lumped into the "weirdo" category, and they're quite funny, a bit witty, and creative.

An example would be how much I was bullied in the past, but when I was fifteen, a guy I knew since kindergarten stood up for me and said if they didn't stop he was going to make them see the hospital.

I think it's very kind of him to do that. I've stood up for my friends when they were being ridiculed, myself. I think that's a great example.

In short: don't mind what people may say or think about you, they are a minority and are just stupid. Keep your head up and don't let yourself fall down, because one day you might not be able to get up anymore. Think about how there are thousand of people in the world that are like you, you aren't alone in this. Life isn't always bad, there is a lot of things enjoyable, if there wasn't any bad things, there wouldn't be anything good either, just like how if there is no Sun, there wont be shadows because the Sun isn't there to make them appear. If anything bothers you, you can always ask help from a friend, a relative or people you trust. People always judge, no one can do anything about that.

I literally could not have said that better myself even though those thoughts have been inside of me deep down, however they've been overshadowed by my sadness. Thank you, I'll try to remember that next time I'm down in the dumps.

So much of text, and probably half of it makes no sense because I'm really tired and I often express myself badly already.

Bleh, going to bed now, I should have been sleeping since an hour and half ago.

Heh, I can relate to that on a spiritual level, as you could imagine.

I think he already knows most of this deep down, and that much of the anxiety simply thrives off of older, less-sensical thoughts, things that aren't not necessarily what he still believes about himself to this day.

That's just my guess though, I may be completely wrong.

Thinking about it, I'd have to say that you're certainly correct with that one.

In my younger years, when I did have to suffer bullying and the like, I believe I did sometimes go under the impression that I wasn't generally liked, though as I've gotten older and with support, I've learnt to not allow that to not put me down, though I think I've become a little bitter internally at times.

Other than the support I've received here, I haven't really had any which only made me feel as though my thoughts were correct. Nearly every time I'm happy and I don't allow things to bring me down something occurs not too long later that only shatters the bliss, which also "reassured" my exaggerated thoughts. I nearly always keep this inside of me, so if it weren't for the fact that I look depressed even when I'm not depressed at all - according to others - no one would really notice my internal struggles, but then again most don't realize anyways besides the handful of people who've pointed out the prior about how I'm perceived.

[Dart]

my head just blew a fuse, but i think i understand.

[Dark Lum Lord]

Look again. I edited it and the post is at least a mile long, and it literally would've been if I used my typical "Insert one paragraph at the least for every quote" formula. Y'all are lucky that I'm one lazy-ass motherfucker.

[Zikken]

By that logic if I said that I'm not trying to be an asshole, I would be an asshole anyway? Its just to point out that the person saying this doesn't want to be seen as one and have no intentions in being one.

I think you should calm down a bit with posts like that though, not only does it affect yourself for posting self-loathing posts, but it also affects the mood of others that read it. I also think you should think a bit more optimistically, no need to be extremely pessimist like you're doing, life have its good sides too but you seem to not see them. I bet you that not everyone where you live hates you, that's kind of impossible unless you killed people or did something of the kind. I already went through a self-loathing stage and am a big pessimistic person, but thinking optimistically sometime helps more than you would think.

Whenever I'm happy there's always something that occurs later which brings down my mood again.

Don't pay attention to whatever brought your mood down. It happens to everyone.

Don't think that people always think " oh he so ugly, he should die, fucking idiot" etc, because people honestly don't. Having a low self-esteem can be bad but have you ever tried to push yourself forward in what you would like to do in your day? And I'm pretty sure not everyone ignore you.

Does everyone always ignore me? Of course not, but for a large chunk of my time I am alone and it remains that way unless I take action to change it. Even then though, many times I remain unnoticed. But today I had been especially social and it turned out postitive for once, which proves that I have no reason to always be a pessimistic, sardonic downer.

Well of course if you want this to change you have to take action, or else you don't go forward. Don't try to seek attention too much, people tend to dislike that too.

It sounds like you're hating yourself a lot. Being physically weak is nothing wrong at all, being mentally weak isn't either, everyone have weaknesses. Who said you were ugly? You can only be ugly from the inside, the outside of someone isn't that important to be honest, someone could look beautiful but would be a complete jerk and vice-versa. You can learn how to have better social skills by trying to talk to people, might be hard to think about but its easier than you think. Being aloof and awkward isn't a wrong thing. Being "weird" isn't wrong, because you're not the sheep following the shepherd that most people follow and decided to follow a different path in life.

But socializing with others is difficult because it's hard for me to think of what to say and even if I do manage to go past that obstacle, most people appear to ignore me for absolutely no reason. I assume it has to do with me being "weird", and one negative of that would be the fact that many people I don't even know act like I'm invisible which is quite close-minded. But I agree, there's nothing wrong with that and most of my friends are also lumped into the "weirdo" category, and they're quite funny, a bit witty, and creative.

I'm in the same situation as you right now. If it gets awkward or anything you can talk about random things like the weather. Sounds stupid but that works. And strangers will ignore you, because they are strangers and you're a stranger to them.

In short: don't mind what people may say or think about you, they are a minority and are just stupid. Keep your head up and don't let yourself fall down, because one day you might not be able to get up anymore. Think about how there are thousand of people in the world that are like you, you aren't alone in this. Life isn't always bad, there is a lot of things enjoyable, if there wasn't any bad things, there wouldn't be anything good either, just like how if there is no Sun, there wont be shadows because the Sun isn't there to make them appear. If anything bothers you, you can always ask help from a friend, a relative or people you trust. People always judge, no one can do anything about that.

I literally could not have said that better myself even though those thoughts have been inside of me deep down, however they've been overshadowed by my sadness. Thank you, I'll try to remember that next time I'm down in the dumps.

You're welcome.

In my younger years, when I did have to suffer bullying and the like, I believe I did sometimes go under the impression that I wasn't generally liked, though as I've gotten older and with support, I've learnt to not allow that to not put me down, though I think I've become a little bitter internally at times.

Other than the support I've received here, I haven't really had any which only made me feel as though my thoughts were correct. Nearly every time I'm happy and I don't allow things to bring me down something occurs not too long later that only shatters the bliss, which also "reassured" my exaggerated thoughts. I nearly always keep this inside of me, so if it weren't for the fact that I look depressed even when I'm not depressed at all - according to others - no one would really notice my internal struggles, but then again most don't realize anyways besides the handful of people who've pointed out the prior about how I'm perceived.

Have you seen someone that is a specialist in that to know if you're depressed for real or not? Because its pretty hard to say by yourself that you are or not plus the fact that there are different kinds of depressions.

You can read a bit about it here. http://depression.about.com/od/mooddiso ... ntypes.htm

[Dark Lum Lord]

Don't pay attention to whatever brought your mood down. It happens to everyone.

Easier said than done, but granted you're right.

Well of course if you want this to change you have to take action, or else you don't go forward. Don't try to seek attention too much, people tend to dislike that too.

Which I find a bit hypocritical since a lot of the people at my school appear to be attention-craving, but I see what you mean. I don't anyways, though, if I'm feeling ignored I'll just sit by myself and think about it which I don't think is a way of excessively showing signs of seekings of attention since no one knows what I'm even thinking about to begin with.

I'm in the same situation as you right now. If it gets awkward or anything you can talk about random things like the weather. Sounds stupid but that works. And strangers will ignore you, because they are strangers and you're a stranger to them.

I get what you mean now. I rarely talk to others who I'm not friends with, however I still acknowledge their existence by listening and looking at them if they're having conversations and I'm sitting and doing nothing, which the same can't be said for them since they don't do acknowledge me whatsoever minus the very rare exception in which they do notice me for a split second. Over all, I just realized that I was being a bit selfish. I can't just expect every single person I'm not close with to walk up to me and give me attention.

You're welcome.

Heh.

Have you seen someone that is a specialist in that to know if you're depressed for real or not? Because its pretty hard to say by yourself that you are or not plus the fact that there are different kinds of depressions.

You can read a bit about it here. http://depression.about.com/od/mooddiso ... ntypes.htm

Actually I did have a therapist and I had explained to her that I had thought I had depression and social anxiety disorder. Eventually she came to agree and I actually was diagnosed with both. It's been such awhile since I've seen her that I've forgotten about her. I kind of miss talking to her because we more or less became friends after talking so much. She told me to watch out for myself when it gets cooler because it's possible that I have seasonal affective disorder the last session or perhaps second to last or such and I'll never forget that since it was one of the last things she told me.

She was like a mother to me.

[Zikken]

Actually I did have a therapist and I had explained to her that I had thought I had depression and social anxiety disorder. Eventually she came to agree and I actually was diagnosed with both. It's been such awhile since I've seen her that I've forgotten about her. I kind of miss talking to her because we more or less became friends after talking so much. She told me to watch out for myself when it gets cooler because it's possible that I have seasonal affective disorder the last session or perhaps second to last or such and I'll never forget that since it was one of the last things she told me.

She was like a mother to me.

Funnily, the person I saw was a psychologist for my autism. I see him at least once a year to see how I'm going, the only thing he told me was to keep my head up and that it will go away with time. Guess that took four years.

Although, its the first time that I hear about a seasonal disorder.

[Dark Lum Lord]

Actually I did have a therapist and I had explained to her that I had thought I had depression and social anxiety disorder. Eventually she came to agree and I actually was diagnosed with both. It's been such awhile since I've seen her that I've forgotten about her. I kind of miss talking to her because we more or less became friends after talking so much. She told me to watch out for myself when it gets cooler because it's possible that I have seasonal affective disorder the last session or perhaps second to last or such and I'll never forget that since it was one of the last things she told me.

She was like a mother to me.

Funnily, the person I saw was a psychologist for my autism. I see him at least once a year to see how I'm going, the only thing he told me was to keep my head up and that it will go away with time. Guess that took four years.

Although, its the first time that I hear about a seasonal disorder.

Is your psychologist suggesting that Autism can magically "go away"? Because it never will as people on the spectrum aren't suffering from a "disorder", they just have a brain that's wired differently but still functional and there's nothing wrong with that. However, yes the symptoms tend to go away as one gets older and/or has therapy.

You're saying you've never heard of seasonal affective disorder before? It's when your depression starts to begin as the temperature gets colder and peaks at winter, then starts to dissipate as spring comes. There's also such thing as the opposite in which you become depressed during the summer. It's possible that I have that according to her and I think I agree a bit myself.

[Zikken]

Actually I did have a therapist and I had explained to her that I had thought I had depression and social anxiety disorder. Eventually she came to agree and I actually was diagnosed with both. It's been such awhile since I've seen her that I've forgotten about her. I kind of miss talking to her because we more or less became friends after talking so much. She told me to watch out for myself when it gets cooler because it's possible that I have seasonal affective disorder the last session or perhaps second to last or such and I'll never forget that since it was one of the last things she told me.

She was like a mother to me.

Funnily, the person I saw was a psychologist for my autism. I see him at least once a year to see how I'm going, the only thing he told me was to keep my head up and that it will go away with time. Guess that took four years.

Although, its the first time that I hear about a seasonal disorder.

Is your psychologist suggesting that Autism can magically "go away"? Because it never will as people on the spectrum aren't suffering from a "disorder", they just have a brain that's wired differently but still functional and there's nothing wrong with that. However, yes the symptoms tend to go away as one gets older and/or has therapy.

You're saying you've never heard of seasonal affective disorder before? It's when your depression starts to begin as the temperature gets colder and peaks at winter, then starts to dissipate as spring comes. There's also such thing as the opposite in which you become depressed during the summer. It's possible that I have that according to her and I think I agree a bit myself.

No no, he was talking about my depression not my autism. Honestly, he never talks about my autism but just daily life stuff.

No, I never did, because for me it was constantly depressed about 24/7 in every season, nothing changed with them.

[Dark Lum Lord]

Actually I did have a therapist and I had explained to her that I had thought I had depression and social anxiety disorder. Eventually she came to agree and I actually was diagnosed with both. It's been such awhile since I've seen her that I've forgotten about her. I kind of miss talking to her because we more or less became friends after talking so much. She told me to watch out for myself when it gets cooler because it's possible that I have seasonal affective disorder the last session or perhaps second to last or such and I'll never forget that since it was one of the last things she told me.

She was like a mother to me.

Funnily, the person I saw was a psychologist for my autism. I see him at least once a year to see how I'm going, the only thing he told me was to keep my head up and that it will go away with time. Guess that took four years.

Although, its the first time that I hear about a seasonal disorder.

Is your psychologist suggesting that Autism can magically "go away"? Because it never will as people on the spectrum aren't suffering from a "disorder", they just have a brain that's wired differently but still functional and there's nothing wrong with that. However, yes the symptoms tend to go away as one gets older and/or has therapy.

You're saying you've never heard of seasonal affective disorder before? It's when your depression starts to begin as the temperature gets colder and peaks at winter, then starts to dissipate as spring comes. There's also such thing as the opposite in which you become depressed during the summer. It's possible that I have that according to her and I think I agree a bit myself.

No no, he was talking about my depression not my autism. Honestly, he never talks about my autism but just daily life stuff.

No, I never did, because for me it was constantly depressed about 24/7 in every season, nothing changed with them.

Ahh, I see. Oh me and my stupidity.

Well, my depression started before the middle of ladt year and was nearly entirely gone at the start of summer which is why she suspects that it could be seasonal affective, but we'll have to find out if that's true later this month I guess. I still have some symptoms that haven't gone away entirely, but over all I feel like my depression has been lifted. Also want to add that I'm already aware of the different forms of depression and I've studied up a lot on disorders since I'm interested in psychology. I think atypical depression and dysthymia fit me the most, however my therapist never specified my depression. She cared far more about helping me than slapping a lable on me.

[Zikken]

Ahh, I see. Oh me and my stupidity.

Well, my depression started before the middle of ladt year and was nearly entirely gone at the start of summer which is why she suspects that it could be seasonal affective, but we'll have to find out if that's true later this month I guess. I still have some symptoms that haven't gone away entirely, but over all I feel like my depression has been lifted. Also want to add that I'm already aware of the different forms of depression and I've studied up a lot on disorders since I'm interested in psychology. I think atypical depression and dysthymia fit me the most, however my therapist never specified my depression. She cared far more about helping me than slapping a lable on me.

Nah, I just badly worded it.

I see I'm not the only here who likes to know about these things. Hopefully it doesn't start being worse because of winter though.

[sergiomonty]

Oh... social anxiety, an issue that cannot be taken with a single chat. It's more like a process. Been there.

Even Spiraldoor calls me a sad person... and you know? that buttface said the truth that day. However, one must move on, and try to cheer up. Even if the situation is on the dark side. Life is about sharing smiles with people, you know? try to find your strongest abilities. Mine are drawing. Keep them as your motivation to move on, and move on, trying to think about a bright future with your potential.

I don't know how old are you, but if you're at school... I'm gonna tell you, those losers who mock you don't know ANYTHING about you. They think they can put you down, just because they're stronger.. and you know? when you're a person with good intentions and low self-esteem... that's normal. It's a phase in life that you must deal with because the great things come later. The true friends appear later. The success in life and happiness come later. Your goal is to find those. You just gotta move on and never surrender. Sounds cheesy, but hey, it's the truth.

Here, Dark Lum, let me give you a big warm internet hug. Everything's gonna be okay, you're worthwhile. You are truly worthwhile.

[Master]

Not related again, but funding for Mighty No 9 has concluded, their final total? About $4,031,550. An impressive total, no?

[OCG]

That is fantastic. I would like to see comparison between Japanese style cover and Western style cover. I imagine something similar to bad boxart Mega Man for Western one

[Keane]

As depressive as it may sound, your early years in school are kind of a waiting line until you can start to make your own decisions, but that doesn't mean it's all doom and gloom. I think the best way to spend it is to prepare. Expand your interests now so that when you have the freedom to actually do something with them you can.

And hey, your situation could be worse. I share your problems with society and I also have a family that makes me cringe all the time by some of their close-minded ideas and am forced to live in a country I don't even want to be in, putting large cultural differences on top of the whole "everyone around me is an idiot" issue. And I could tell myself that my life is fucked and whatnot, and I have for the past two years or so. And seeing how the last four months of my life have existed out of arguing, debate, waiting and boredom it would seem logical to go back to that conclusion.

The reason why I'm having a better experience with these months then the rest of my family is because I'm done talking about the things I hate about my life and am taking time to appreciate the things I'll be leaving behind soon. Just the nature, atmosphere, things around me. Of course the Netherlands isn't a perfect country and I have my criticism, but I don't want to fall into a pit of negativity. In our small and filled country there's this small town far away from everything and just being there makes me more happy then I could be. I don't even know the name of it but that doesn't matter to me. It's just a peaceful place with fantastic nature. I think if people more often took time to just go somewhere or do something that makes them feel better there'd be more happy people. I don't see my family taking time to ever really look around them and see where they are. Their constantly worried about the smallest matters and are busy arguing with other people. I'll stop rambling on now but basically what I'm trying to say is that you don't wanna let yourself get dragged into the negative aspects of your life even if those aspects tend to be take over. Just have a moment of peace with yourself and try to look at things with another perspective. And whether you do that trough being in a place, listening to a song, drawing something, I don't know, but it's good to hold yourself from seeing only one side of your life. If that makes sense.

[Dark Lum Lord]

Hmm, thanks for all the buttsex love and support guys. Very much appreciated. I've still had some downer moments here and there, however the past couple of days have been pretty good for me and I've actually managed to be pretty positive. I've had fun, I've laughed, and I had some small conversations here and there and while I may be as far away from the spotlight at possible, I still have friends and I've nothing ot complain about anymore because my life isn't entirely consisted of negatives.

Once again, much appreciated. Perhaps a lighter and fluffier conversation should commence now that all of this is past us?

[Keane]

Perhaps a lighter and fluffier conversation should commence now that all of this is past us?

Now comes the buttsex.

[Dark Lum Lord]

Perhaps a lighter and fluffier conversation should commence now that all of this is past us?

Now comes the buttsex.

My body is ready.

[Keane]

Perhaps a lighter and fluffier conversation should commence now that all of this is past us?

Now comes the buttsex.

My body is ready.